jeez how old are u grandpa sano?
- Hey they say that 30 is the new 60! :party: Hmm on second thought, for Marvel it’s more like your comic being around for 40 years means you are only 25… So 7 years shy of being 25. HYPER TIME!
shut up sano…your not getting retconned lol.
Drat! Foiled again…
“When I was your age we didn’t have no Old Man Logan. We had Young Man Logan, who turned out to be over 200 years old and fought in both World Wars… Wait a second, we DID have Old Man Logan!” :wow:
“We still didn’t have no internets though and if we wanted to bitch about a future story we had to write a letter to a comic book and pray to 7 out of 10 gods that our letter got printed. Not to mention, the mailbox was 1,000 miles away uphill and the road was covered with thorns and we had to walk barefoot! (Yeah, that sounds good…) You young whipper snappers don’t know how good you have it…”
:lol:
<3 sano
I wonder how old Logan is at this point in time, jesus he’d have to be…
Close to 150-160? Sounds about right.
Yeah Wolverine Origin took place around 1860 or around there (late ninteenth century officially) so 150-160 sounds about right, give or take.
Yeah was basing it off Origins, great piece of work. I still like the idea of Sabretooth being his former friend in that story, but I doubt Marvel will bite that bullet lol.
Just because I don’t want to open a seperate thread on this, who the heck is in your Avatar Sano? It looks familiar but I just can’t place it.
Sagara Sanosuke off the manga and anime Rurouni Kenshin. Which took place during 1860 or so also ha ha ha! I’m just waiting for Watsuki to get around to telling the story of when Sagara Sanosuke travels to Canada and beats up young Wolverine hell yeah! :looney:
Eh maybe they just have a few beers or something… 
Ahh thanks a lot for that, was bugging me. I’m a fan of Kenshin/Samurai X, just never clicked lol.
Haha, where the crap you at, Clinty? Fool’s been M.I.A. in the SRK Comic Book Forum for months now.
Does he usually have a rant on the Origins comic? :wonder:
I’ve been completely backlogged on some issues, so I’ve been avoiding this forum entirely because I know the tenancy of SRK posters to spoil anything and everything.
I also owe Zephy money, so I’ve been dodging him for a while in hopes he doesn’t break my thumbs.
I just finished another Yellow Fever rant in General Discussion too. If I roll out an Origin rant, I’d only be a Street Fighter movie post away from a Carpet Lint Hat Trick.
For the record though, I have no issues specifically with Origins, the ongoing series based off Origin, the miniseries. I kinda just lump it all together with Origin, along with all the craziness that happened in House of M. I haven’t even read any of Origins, so it could be like the greatest comic book of all time and I wouldn’t know. …even if it was though, I still wouldn’t like it.
I don’t know, it’s just the whole idea of even attempting something like this in the first place was a bad one. I mean the whole appeal of the character is because he’s got this shady past that’s been alluded to so many times over the years, and it’s like a bottomless well of material for whatever stories you feel like.
Samurai stories, Alpha Flight, CIA, Deparment H, Weapon-X, that stage in his life when he was running through the Canadian woods naked and killing deer with his bare hands…even sorid, ill-advised sexual misadventures (ie. marrying Viper, etc.)…it’s all there.
And then at the end of the story, it’s like “Oops, Weapon-X memory plant! Didn’t actually happen, back to status quo!”
And life was good.
Though I certainly understand the need to develop characters and move storylines ahead, especially on the Marvel side versus for DC which enjoys rooting its ageless, iconic characters in the status quo for 60+ years, with just a Crisis every now and then for some housecleaning.
But that’s the problem. It was Chris Claremont (in the 80’s when he was still sane) or Frank Miller that said…if you’re going to tell Wolverine’s origin, then it better be the best Wolverine story ever told.
And that’s something I believe in greatly, because if you’re going to do something radical to the character and fundamentally change his history or standing in the Marvel universe…then it should be, AT THE VERY LEAST…like…an actually GOOD story.
Instead, it was like the crappiest Wolverine story ever told. Which is like the complete opposite of what Frank Miller (I think it was Frank Miller) was saying. So…great job there, Paul Jenkins and Joe Q and Bill Jemas.
God, it’s just the most boring thing ever…it’s just like eighteen issues (But like six in reality? Or eight?) of just a bunch of poofs wandering around speaking in Victoria Era English. Absolutely nothing is addressed or answered by the story, and it just ultimately ends up making one of the toughest, most badass characters in comic book history look like an absolute pussy as a kid.
The same guy that goes toe to toe with the Hulk, and the same guy who took apart the entire Hellfire Club back in Uncanny #whatever, and the same guy that does all that badass stuff…
…he had asthma as kid, cried when his puppy died (even HAD A PUPPY IN THE FIRST PLACE), and screamed like a little girl when his claws popped out for the first time…I don’t know, to me, that seems like something that takes away from the character instead of adding to it.
The thing is that I look like the crazy guy for thinking of this, and they’re making busts and spotlighting “Wolverine popping his claws for the first time!” as something that’s cool…when it’s probably like one of the sissiest, most non-Wolverine moments in the history of the character.
Furthermore, the story doesn’t even do anything aside establish where Wolvie gets his redhead fetish from.
If you’re telling the definitive Wolverine story…wouldn’t you expect certain questions to be answered? Like…is Sabretooth really his father? What’s the deal with Silver Fox and him? What did he do back in those Weapon-X missions along with Sabretooth and Maverick? When did he travel to Japan to train to be a samurai and meet Mariko? What about all the Madripoor history and his Patch persona? Any answers about those?
Nope.
Just amazing to me how they managed to actually finally tell the definite origin story for Wolverine, the story that fans have been wondering about for like twenty, thirty years…and then not only manage to not answer any questions and satisfy anything at all, but actually manage to take away from the character and turn him into a bitch.
It was like the exact opposite of what DKR did for Batman.
God, I hate Origin.
The art was nice, though.
Ahh well that’s the rant, lol.
To be fair, the characterization as a kid was not a way to make him look like a pussy, it made him more human. I don’t think you busted out of your mother’s womb smoking a cigarette and kicking ass did you? Considering the way he was raised (Semi-spoiled rich boy, kept inside) I didn’t expect him to be this amazing ass-kicking, name taking boy on the block.
As anyone does in situations like that, he manned up and faced his problems before starting a new life for himself. Nothing wrong with that characterization.
I enjoyed the origin, and it was only a very small part of Wolverine’s life.
It would be awesome (as in comically haha pun albeit a bad one) to put that for someone’s origin. I hope Sergio Aragones does something like that (if he hasn’t already)
SPOILERS: Semi OT about Sabretooth
Ill reply to the other stuff later, but about Wolverine #55 from last year.
SPOILERS…Its really sad to know that Sabretooth died the way he did. Very anti-climactic. Worse is that if they make that the official story arc, there might not be a way to bring Sabretooth back.
Also for those who read back in the 90s…is there a story arc where Wolverine dies saving earth in some battle/duel with I think Galactus. I think someone said his claw breaks and sticks him in the heart?
Found this on Old Man Logan: http://loganfiles.proboards92.com/index.cgi?board=reviews&action=display&thread=304
Wasn’t he Thomas Logan’s bastard child though ? Because his mom was sleeping with the gardener ?
lolz
If Iron Fist ain’t in this, then fuck this shit.
Yeah, Iron Fist got the shaft.
Literally, Magneto shoved a pole up his ass, ruptured his insides.
Old Man Logan issue 2, 616’s Spider-Man current future
Spoiler
So yeah he died in the great holocaust when all of the heroes died, but his third daughter shows up named Tonya, and she’s Black! :wow: Tonya also hooked up with Future Hawkeye and had a Spider Daughter lol! So, what does this mean, is Spidey gonna wind up with Lily Hollister? I mean, it is his third child so he could still wind up with MJ to have May (or, Mary like the last issue of Sensational Spider-Man called her in a possible future pre OMD) and Ben (Ben is in both that Sensational issue and Spider-Girl) and MJ might bite it Earth X style so he can have another kid with someone else. Or he could just have 3 kids with Lily, heck maybe even another African American! Um, yeah way to further twist that screwdriver in the gut of us Spidey/MJ fans Marvel lol! Can’t wait to see what happens next in Old Man Logan, HE’S OOOOOOOOOLD! :looney: