Old games are better!

Yet in 2d. Capcom, you are amazing. :pray:

well 2d is always over 3d anyway because it’s sprite based. Takes much more time to put some detail in it whereas 3d, you just make a model and run with it. not as much time/detail/labor in 3d modeling then 2d animation.

which is why shit like Garou, KoFXII, and CPS3 games look so damn good/smooth.

it’s really sad honestly. This whole argument can really be applied to games in general. Too much eye candy, not enough focus on gameplay.

and since SSF4 is “for the fans”, that’s all we’re going to continue seeing. Lots of eye candy, no actual gameplay improvement.

I’d rather play SF4 before 3s, and people still play that shit 10 years later. Expect SSFIV to be around for a while, at least before Turbo.

Still, I do find more enjoyment out of playing ST, it’s just SFIV is fun too, but not the same. =/

edit: lol at people crying about auto correct in SFIV, i auto correct DP in A2 and even HF. It’s even an easier motion than a real DP in those games.

Actually it’s the only memorable moments from 10+ years of 3s. Only fits 10 minutes. :coffee:

Also note that they level out all the exciting low forwardxxSA2s.

Yes, let’s put all the blame on one guy because Ono has absolute control and made the entire game by himself. The Smash players were very smart by blaming Sakurai and we should follow in their footsteps.

…Fucking idiot.

shit fighter 4 sucks

Nevermind the fact that Ono has been doing a pretty damn good job of saying shit like “Prove there’s demand for it, and I’ll do my best to make it happen.”

How people can hate this guy is beyond me.

Wow. Ono hate? Seriously?

He’s an awesome guy and doing his best to act as an emissary between the gamers and the designers, programmers, and money grubbing buttheads that decide what stays or goes. Ono has done a good job of giving new or casual fans what they want without completely compromising the competitive aspect.

Without someone able to handle this dangerous balancing act we could end up with either VF or smash – and I enjoy having a fun game and people to play with, thank you very much.

Ono has a good understanding of what made SF great to the casual player, but he has no fucking clue what made it great to the hardcore player. You need both to be a truly worthwhile game. Contrary to what many people here seem to think, they are not mutually exclusive.

Man, I just want a rebalanced SFIII:3S without parry. That’s all I want. :frowning:

WTF :confused:

Imagine instead of the games for windows live symbol they put in games for morons. :rofl:

I don’t hate Ono but I severely disapprove of his lack of handling the game so far from a technical standpoint. That’s just me though. Sure if it wasn’t for him Evo would still be struggling but SFIV ain’t necessarily the ideal SF game either. It’s the ideal SF game if all competitive SF players just didn’t really give a shit what happens to their SF games. It could definitely be better and include more of things that made SF interesting just on a basic mechanics level. I have a feeling the route they are going to take is to mostly make the game more offensive using the tools of SFIV than making a game that holds more true to the mechanics that made earlier SF games interesting to play. I’ll see if that holds up for me but I can’t say I’ll be playing Super with a ton of interest if gameplay wise it’s too similar to the original game. SF will never be like it used to though…that’s for sure.

Auto correct works better in SFIV though because the reversal timing is so lenient and crossing people up on wake up is really random because of the way SFIV hit boxes work (completely different per character and even different depending on how the opponent got knocked down). Shoryu’s activating on frame 3 doesn’t help. You can’t meaty shoryus anymore either. Nobody gives a shit if you can auto correct DP in HF because if your reversal timing isn’t tight to 1 specific frame you will get bodied. Even if you do get the timing perfect if the opponent safe jumps you that doesn’t matter either. If the opponent meaties your shoryu you will die too. Alpha 2 isn’t that much better in that respect especially considering shoryus don’t have as much invincibility and are more unsafe on whiff and block. When you auto correct with your free ass SFIV shoryu you get free Ultra afterwards too.

scrubs don’t understand why sf4 sucks. No use explaining it to them. There have been more than enough decent people in this thread who’ve actually done something in the tournament scene and have posted their thoughts on the game. Scrubs will just argue and never go to a tournament.

I guarantee you the only reason top players play this game is the money looming around it. If this game got as much play as every other game, it would be gone with the quickness. Remember TVC? that game wasn’t even the tournament scene long enough to be remembered.

oh yea, I forgot to mention I can do reversal SRK’s with my feet. THIS GAME IS HELLA TECHNICAL!!! i’m not joking, shit is mad easy to do with your toes.

doesn’t help that TvC is on the Wii of all consoles. No one wants to buy/mod a stick just for 1 game on a system that already gets hate for being a gimmick. Remember Devo 09? yea…lol.

original TvC would’ve lasted longer if the mechanics wasn’t so broken and it actually was on a system that fighting game players actually have the setup for. I doubt american TvC will last any longer but we’ll see. I don’t hold much for it though.

If anything, I figure SF4 is still getting hype because of people wantin money and because it’s still the “hot new shit” so supporting SF4 by playing it even if they don’t like it is better than playing it for a little then the big players just dropping it as a whole. If it means Capcom will take the time to do some more SF games (which I honestly doubt…or at least done right.) then I wouldn’t mind people taking a hit for the team. But with Capcom’s “ways”, taking one for the team may just end up with more hate on capcom’s end. It took us this long to get a SF sequel, who knows when we’ll see anything of quality that’s not a remake/redone in HD fighter.

Yeah I support SFIV enough to buy it and go to tournaments for it cuz I’d rather do that than see the scene die out and Capcom not ever want to make a new SF game period. I’d rather play SFIV than Halo but that isn’t really saying a ton either.

I play TvC cuz fuck y’all.

Yeah that’s right.

Greatest point made

I like those game which have fun, it doesn’t matter of old or new games. I also play old games and New Digital games. Paper plane, Super Mario are old games and which are nice games. I like also new games like Counter strike 1.4, Halo 3 odst and GTA vice City IV. As my opinion old racing games are not good than new because lack of graphics and control on car/bike.

shiiiit ^ ridge racer 4 is god like