Block the body not the nife.other then that ken owns her for free if he dusnt get knocked down.also I seen ppl focus dash forward or dash back at times also but u need to be familiar with the nife mterns to be able to know wich to do.so bloking her body is the best bet.also when tokido fought clakey d and ibukki would do her kiks some times he would sweep and get a knock down other times clakey d would focus the sweep anyone know y he was able to sweep her at times and other times he couldn’t?
if youre refering to Ibuki
s tsumuji I think he has a different recovery depending on if she hits you low or high…
All right, I will give that a shot.
need help with super defensive Guile players? has been my most worst match up in months
EDIT: sorry if this has been asked numerous times…
Answer/comment as you like/can ^_^.
Thought about picking up Ken. Low execution rushdown with good footsies is what I’m looking for.
And I have to like the character at least a little bit.
Anyways:
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frame advantage on level 1 hit focus attack dash in?
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minus 2 on level 1 blocked focus and +4 on level 3 blocked focus?
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Big question: how much will EX Tatsu really hurt Ken? IMO I think it’s a big nerf. Justin Wong said in an interview that it’s really hard to see, so at top level I don’t think it’s really a gimmik, but a threatening mindgame and mixup. It’s not a gimmick I see because it changes the directory of your jump while mixing up what side to block on; doing this early or late, you can do it empty or meaty, and on hit/block you get massive frame advantage; not to mention at max range of it you get perfect kara throw set-up. I think atm Ken kind of needs it but if the buffs wlil make him more solid and he will stay at least as good then I’m all for it.
Example: Daigo and (Tokido? or Momochi?) used it in a certain recent finals (the ones gamerbee won and Jwong used Makoto at) a LOT and combo’d it into sweep for continual mixup. Without sweep combo-able from a crouching opponent you won’t be able to continue knockdown mixup (as crouchers will not get hit by standing lp … -
frame advantage on hp srk dash in (each hit)
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whats the deal with them changing standing light punch?
EDIT: more questions.
-Ken?s weaknesses? Big and small.
-My friend a Bison main (possible Bias) said Ken vs Bison was 5-5. Playing Ken for this short time and knowing everything he can do since vanilla, and being a former Ryu main, I highly doubt this. Ryu?s Hado is better so he can play the zone game until Bi gets U2 or EX at midscreen or if he?s cornered. Ken has EX tatsu but I don?t think that?s gonna work with Bison?s million options without charge for one (tele, jump back hardpunch or medium punch, standing hard kick, crouching hard punch, slide?)
So what?s up with the Bison matchup?
- Dhalsim, Rog MU?s
- Damage
- What to do with super (things it can counter, meaning what to save it for in certain matchups, like maybe it can punish honda?s headbut, and if they?re in the corner you could go into ultra, or maybe it could punish yoga sniper?)
- usefulness and/or uses of standing medium kick and crouching mp since it?s 6 frames? Use it like Ryu?s?
- How to use standind hard kick in footsies/can it be used in footsies, and what matchups (Mu thread didn’t help and theres tons and longgggg threads, more threads than looongcat :< )…also how about using it for techtraps and coutnerhit setups? what is it on normal hit /block (i could look but let me know here Ehubbs isn’t always right) What’s it on coutnerhit, and can it work like Bisons standing hard punch techtraps?
P.S. - Thanks guys, and I’d like to get to know the Ken forums as it seems I’ll be stayin here for awhile. Right now I’m alting Ken and maining Guy (who’s pissing me off…Ken’s one of my worst matchups).
hope this helps
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notice the kara hadou to get in closer, i dont think i can pull those off consistently, for all we know i might eat one of those booms XD i like the fact that you got in on em by using the EX tatsu
ok guys I’ve been messing with ken for a little under a month now and I have some things against Fei
Every rekka besides low can be kara Dped when blocked at max range!
my go to combo against him is cr.short cr.jab cr.jab kara lp dp
what this does is set up a safe jump agaisnt all of his reversals except U2 ofcourse
back dash and Chicken wing can be punished on REACTION
sweep the back dash and ex tatsu or U2 the chicken wing
if he doesn’t quick get up you can go for a neutral safe jump that sets up the same situation.
Good stuff ! The neutral jump to time the safe jump is new to me…
You can also add some OS to beat backdash.
amazing stuff, keep it comin! might just add some stuff in myself…
He can’t just do that string forever unless you’re cornered. Even there he’ll get pushed out, but his options are a lot better. You need to get used to the range of his c.lk, but when you’re not cornered, after one or two reps of it, you can stand up and walk backwards which makes his c.lk whiff. After even the first, you can backdash, but if he reads this, he’ll skip the c.lk and just do hk scissor.
Hey guys. How do you all feel about character specific matchup threads?
I’m interested in some matchup info regarding Cody, Rose and Abel, and I feel a dedicated thread to each matchup would bring out the best in the discussion, and make the fruits of it more resourceful, rather than having all the tidbits lost in the clutter of this large thread.
Either way, any help regarding specific punishes, etc. would be appreciated.
I would prefer and always had prefer a single thread for each character matchup. The Ken forum has 3 different Matchup mega threads and non ever gets updated unfortunately.
I’m still working on the 2011 Ken Match-ups thread. I’ll try my best to update it as often as possible since I’m on this site like everyday.
So are you suggesting no character specific threads? When do you plan on making this new matchup thread?
Sorry for the super late reply SynikaL.
I wouldn’t mind a character specific thread but I don’t see why you can’t just discuss in the match-ups thread. I’m working on the new match-up thread right now. It should be done by the first week of January. Browsing ever page of the match-up threads is so boring.:crybaby:
I think it’d be better to have individual threads per character. Yeah, sure, it’ll be a lot of threads but it would be a bit more organized then just having ALL of the match-ups in one thread. It makes it hard to such what you’re looking for, and people ask “how do I fight so-and-so”, and it just becomes a cycle.
And having individual threads would make discussions on the match-up much more easier.
If the majority of Ken’s would prefer individual threads per character, then go for it. I just think that you may need to make a central thread that would link to each match-up.
Something like this:
Link to VS Abel thread
Link to VS Adon thread
Link to VS Akuma thread
Joutai, it looks like we have 2 match-up threads that are stickied:
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http://shoryuken.com/f259/dear-doctor-ken-match-ups-insight-ask-question-get-answer-208753/
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http://shoryuken.com/f259/new-ken-match-ups-thread-updated-08-07-a-201584/
We need to clean up the Ken forums. Dr. Chaos and JoeMasters haven’t been doing a good job updating their threads. They don’t post either. Since you’re really active here, I’m thinking we should ask the mods to combine those 2 threads and make you run it.
What do you and the Ken Army think about this?
please use that OS so i can blow it up with counter hit close mp into sako combo :mad:
or be a flowchart and mash that dp. i know you want to
cammy got nerfed because of guys like you whining about her dive kick. (while fat rufus can pretty much use the same, and the stupid twins as well, also known as discrimination)
:rolleyes:
Di,