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haha not the answer i was looking for but honestly thats probably the best advice.

perhaps i should rewrite my question,
having trouble with Guile lately, how do i beat him with ken? :stuck_out_tongue:

lol my bad. but with ken i feel he has 1 or 2 chances to really get big damage when u see the oportunity take it but if its not there u should try to stay nutral cus lets face it we are gona eat some chip. so try to avoid te corner,look for parterns with his foward fierce move to sweep it. i dont use use tatsu to go thru booms any more unless i think they are gona throw an ex.but its really alot of walking blocking nutral jumping and doging. both ultras have there purposes.u2 is good for combacks if u are confident with jab ultra or other 1 framer cus u2 thru a jab sonic boom is out of the ?u2 is really to avoid his meety u2 lol.now u1 on te other and does less damage but u get a free jump after so it sets up well.the goal in this fight is to push guile to the corner and keep him there.the best ways to do that is fireballs in his face walking and blocking spam step kik from time to time and using tatsu in your combos when ever you get the change. the srk knockdown is good but if u srk combo then take the jump after you will never push him to the corner and if he blocks and techs u end nutral in the middle of the stage.now the tastu if he blocks and techs post tatsu hes still in the corner or at least on his way there.ken can win that fight but its all adapting and avoiding chip damage.i personally dont enjoy the fight so i just pik akuma and run away and end all my combos with sweep for a free vortex.but some one has to figure sumin out with the guile vs ken matchup.ima leave that up to yall cus i keep hitting a brick wall. akuma makes guile face the brick wall. sorry for copin out but its either win or go home now.also be sure to os evrything cus once u get close you dont want him backdshing away then u hve to work all oer again. so if your gona safe jump or crossup even nutral jump in his face or press. c.lk or c.lp on guile put somthing behind it so he either has to block or flash kick

I don’t thing there is an answer sicx…That’s why Guile is probably getting a nerf!

Ken can’t zone Guile or Vortex him…Playing defensively is the best we’ve got. Once you get a KD though, you can snuff him out for a win by mixing up properly.

Yup but if you never get the knockdown you lose.and we have to take a risk to get it.so if that risk gets counterd its a done dilly.with you know who you don’t need the knockdown cus he wins the fireball fight.when guile knocks guile down the its mixup city.but how u guys feel about mk tatsu I’m gonna use it now cuz negative 1 suks when the enemy has a 3 frame short or jab.so ex or mk from now on for me.or hk against ppl with 4 frame shorts and jabs.
Another thing about guile he jus plain out walks ken so he can play footsies and walk you to the corner super ez.guile needs a walk nerf.please share any tips or strats that y’all use aginst him.id rather use ken n the fight but akumas been givn me a ez win

Kara focus booms…pray.

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hope this would help. this me facing guile

this is how i played b4 i ever got on this sight and seen the tips

That’s essentially what you have to do, but that Guile wasn’t particularly good…:china:

If guile isn’t consistently using his normals to keep you out he’s not good. I played against someone that used to come to the arcade regularly and he showed up reppin’ guile as usual yesterday. This guy always gave me trouble and I’d squeak by barely with the win, but mostly lost. When I played him I DOMINATED him. Feels good to see your game improve and actually see results of all the hard work.

Kara Focus…I won’t say it’s ESSENTIAL to winning certain matches but damned if it doesn’t help a lot. I spent last night forcing myself to use it, even if I fucked up and got hit. Then like nothing it became almost second nature to use it effectively and at the right times. Kara everything possible, it’s silly not to.

I think some detail is needed for the guile match up with Ken. Start of the match, a good guile does nothing or throws boom. So Ken should start every match with kara fireball, or kara focus. Any inch closer to gettin’ guile in the corner is good for Ken. Personally I use focus attack to get in, they’ll usually block but I’m in their face at that point and that’s where I want to be. Make them scared to press buttons with FA, then go for kara throw. Getting a throw and doing a safe jump first lets them know you’re looking for them to fuck up first. Use that mind game to actually do jump ins and go for damage.

Sounds simple but it’s just laying out the foundation first so Guile knows you mean business. Cross up lk. tatsu is strong in this match. Getting that one knock down is essential so that’s your biggest focus. Hope this helps.

Can Someone Give me a good Ambiguous Cross up? I Was doing casuals last night, and i was getting mixxed by Sakura ambiguous Cross up. I was wondering if ken has one.

In my opinion, Ken’s cross-up potential is by far superior to Sakura’s.

First, learn the correct distance to land Ken’s ambiguous Jump in FP. It’s not too tricky to get the spacing right really. After a throw for example, you want to take a tiny step back and then time your jump in to hit slightly later than usual (non-meaty).

Once you can do Ken’s ambiguous jump in FP, remember that same spacing for almost ALL Ken’s jump in’s.

Now here are your options:

From this spacing, you can jump slightly earlier and cross-up with jump in LK or jump in MK.
From the same spacing, you can jump late and do a mid air LK tatsu to cross-up too.

Check out my UNBLOCKABLE jump in thread for videos of the correct spacings and timings.

Hope this helps.

Peace,

G.

no idea bro , i personally think kens hardest matchups are chunli and dhalsim

Yo I played the best guile in az and after dozens of matches I only got a few rounds. I try to focus but it seems like that doesn’t work either cuz I just get hit out of it. I think this match seein a pattern in there sonic booms and predicting, which fuckin sucks. But I usually trade a whole lot of plasma and be as paitent as possible. A lot of time that means timing out a round. But what I think is very vital to this match is mixups from the air when he’s waking up and baiting flash kicks and putting him in the corner. Btw I hate this macthup. Imo kens worst matchup in the game. And by far his lamest

thanks ken army for the guile advice. i’m glad im not the only one having trouble against him.

Question. I like using the Air Tatsu in my X-ups, BUT For some reason i only land the EX tatsu. Far as the other 3 Versions is there something i Need to do? Spacing Timing Or just practice it? Is there a particular one i should use? Should i even be using it? You have a thread or a video? Help me out. Errr… I have a video or me blowing balls against a Rose. If you can watch and give me a pointer or 2 it will be greatly appreciate it.

I have Got x2 better since this video. My abilities is not even close to Where i want to be to compete at a higher lvl.

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Ignore the Blown FADC’s. I was having execution Problems that night.

MAN I HOPE THEY NERF HIS ASS TO DEATH

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I have no clue. It doesn’t really seem to me like Ken has an answer for a lot of Chun’s best tools.

Maybe the the list maker knows something I don’t. :stuck_out_tongue:

kara-focus some of her pokes and she’ll get bodied. bait out ex-sbk on wake up and you can fierce srk it as it starts up. This is what Banana Ken did to me when I still played Chun and I do it to chuns now myself. He said it was in Ken’s favor but besides those few tricks I don’t see how EXACTLY either.

yo i agree with you i got rocked by sosicknash chunli nasty good thing hes gonna help me with that matchup anyone got any advise or strat how to beat her is it best to turtle her out or to full ken style rush her ass down cuz that didnt work me her pokes are to great for me to get in she keeps me out all day if she played hella right never been so fraustrated with her like that got mind f***ked. if anyone has any advice plz feel free to help with some type of strat.

How to deal with gen cause every time u get caught with those stupid air kick I wanna throw my stick. Also need elf help he really annoying