Official Street Fighter IV FightSticks & FightPad Thread (More on the way!)

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Mad Catz official response regarding the Arcade FightStick (standard edition)…

ADDED 02/18/09

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FAQ

NOTE: Opening either stick voids the Warranty which is 90 days U.S. and 2 years in Europe.

**If you experience any issues with your FightStick or Pad please call Madcatz ****tech support **@ 1.800.659.2287 8 AM PST - 4 PM PST

Q: So I take it that the Japanese stick comment means that it uses a square gate? If I were to pick up one of these would it be easy to mod it to an American style stick?
A: Comes with square gate. American buttons? Maybe. Joystick? No.

Q: Also I’ve never been able to find a good answer as to the difference between the TE and regular stick.
A: Standard stick has standard parts, not Sanwa. Standard is smaller, lighter, cheaper, etc.

Q: Are these joysticks PC Compatible?
A: YES. YES. YES.
At most you might need to download drivers from Microsoft’s site for the 360 versions.

Q: Are these joysticks wired?
A: Yes, USB for both 360 and PS3.

Q: How Much do these things cost?
A: The regular Fightstick is 70 for the PS3 and 80 for the 360. The Tournament edition is 150 bucks.

Q: Why is the 360 one ten dollars more?
A: Because Microsoft has higher licensing fees for accessories than Sony.

Q: When are these going to be available?
A: Around the same time as Street Fighter 4 is released. (2/11/09)

Q: Where can I get one of these?
A: Update: Most places are sold out of pre orders. There are some vendors online selling them but there are major questions about actual availability

Q:Can I walk in on that day and pick one up?
A: Very unlikely. Stores will only stock the Tournament edition if you pre-order, and while some of the more popular Gamestops might have a few of the regular edition in stock, it would be best to pre-order to make sure you get one. Supplies will be limited.

Q: What about those of us outside of the United States?
A: The sticks WILL be available in the UK, but details are still scare. Other than than not much has been said.

Q: Will there be a territorial lockout on the sticks?
A: No, they’ll work on any region system.

Q: Why does the Tournament edition cost twice as much?
A: All the reasons have not been revealed yet, but what we’ve heard so far:
-Genuine Sanwa arcade joysticks and buttons, the same ones found on official Street fighter 4 arcade cabinets in Japan
-Larger and heavier base (heavier than an HRAP)
-Other neat things like a compartment in the back for storing the cable, a switch which disables the pause and guide buttons

Q: Does that mean the regular edition is crap?
A: No. According to those who are in the know, it’s a better stick out of the box than Hori’s Fighting stick ex2 or Fighting stick 3. In addition it is easily moddable, as in replacing the joystick and buttons (wired up using a 5 pin connector and quick disconnects, just like the Tournament edition).

Q: Do the 360 joysticks have headset ports?
A: Yes.

Q: Does the older 360 headset work with both sticks?
A: Yes, they will include an adapter

Q: Are the sticks four-way or eight way?
A: They have square gates, which are the norm for Japanese sticks. (By the way, that’s still eight way, but you can feel the corners.) If you so choose you could replace the gate with a Octagonal Restrictor Plate to make it feel more round.

Q: What model stick is in the TE edition?
A: JLF-TP-8YT-SK-W

Q: Uh, I hate square gates
A: Put a Sanwa GT-Y Octagonal Restrictor Plate in there

Q: Can I put a Happ american style stick in there?
A: No, not without major modding however a Sanwa LB-30-N Joystick Bat Top &
Sanwa Joystick Adapter in there with an octagonal gate and that should get you close

Q: Is the top panel (the artwork) of the Tournament edition still replaceable?
A: Yes, however opening the stick will void the warranty

Q: Will there be templates available for artwork?
A: Yes! You can find them here. Right click and save as:
SE: http://shoryuken.com/FightStick_Template_MadCatz.psd
TE: http://shoryuken.com/Tournament_FightStick_Template_MadCatz.psd
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Templates and FightStick Mockups can be found in** The Official Street Fighter IV TE/SE Fighstick Template Thread DO NOT POST ART WORK IN THIS THREAD!

Q: What does the stock art consist of?
A: As a heads up, the artwork on the TE is a decal fused on the bottom of an acrylic sheet

Q: What about the regular fightstick artwork?
A: For the regular FightStick, it is a decal on a METAL plate. It will be harder to swap out art here. You will have to figure out your own thing

Q: Why don’t these joysticks work with both systems (like the anniversary stick)?
A: Because Microsoft won’t allow it, security chips needed to have a controller work on a 360, Etc…

Q: Do these sticks work with BC games?
A: Yes on the 360, NO on the PS3. This may be changed via update so email Sony.

Q: What if I want to mod the joystick to work with both 360 and PS3?
A: You should probably get the 360 one.

Q: Are the PCBs in the sticks Common Ground?
A: Yes.

Q: Are there Six or Eight buttons?
A: Eight.

Q: What kind of Button layout is it?
A: a layout identical to a Vewlix Cabinet Street Fighter IV cabinet.

Q: Are these the same measurements as the real Vewlix
A: Yes

Q: What is the case made out of?
A: Plastic with metal panels on the top and bottom.

Q: Are the buttons Screw ins or Snap ins?
A: Snaps.

Q: What size are the stock buttons?
A: 30mm - top buttons 24mm - start/select

Q: Does it have Turbo controls?
A: Yes, both stick have independent Turbo controls for each button.

Q: Can I put a Seimitsu Stick in either version?
A: Yes.

Q: Are these joysticks PC Compatible?
A: Yes.

Q: How long is the cord?
A: 4 meters

Q: Are the cords on the stick breakaway’s?
A: On the 360 version yes, it is a Microsoft spec.

Q: Can I use screw in buttons?
A: As a heads up Sanwa screw in nuts will not fit in easily around the X (PS3) / A (360) button due to the stick bracket blocking the way. However a Seimitsu yellow screw in nut will fasten a screw in button just fine.

Just a heads up. This is due to the Vewlix panel not having a universal mounting plate to support an LS32. It is something we added on our own. We didn’t want to sacrifice the spacing/layout of the stick/buttons.

I reccommend you use snap in buttons, but if you wanna screw, take note!

Final TE stick:

Inside pics, Too large to post
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/ars_stick1.jpg
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/ars_stick2.jpg

Stats:

WEIGHT COMPARISON

  1. Official Street Fighter IV FightStick Tournament Edition

    • 6.5 lbs; 2.95 kg

  2. Hori Real Arcade PRO

    • 5.7 lbs; 2.59 kg

  3. Virtua Stick High Grade

    • 6.5 lbs; 2.95 kg

MEASUREMENT COMPARISON
HEIGHT (measuring from bottom of base to tallest point on panel)

  1. Official Street Fighter IV FightStick Tournament Edition

    • 2.75 inches; 69.85 mm
    • Including Joystick: 5.0 inches; 127 mm

  2. Hori Real Arcade PRO

    • 2.75 inches; 69.85
    • Including Joystick: 5.0 inches; 127 mm

  3. Virtua Stick High Grade

    • 2.25 inches; 57.15 mm
    • Including Joystick: 4.5 inches; 114.30 mm

VERTICAL LENGTH

  1. Official Street Fighter IV FightStick Tournament Edition

    • 10 inches; 254 mm

  2. Hori Real Arcade PRO

    • 9.0 inches; 228.60 mm

  3. Virtua Stick High Grade

    • 9.5 inches; 241.30 mm

HORIZONTAL LENGTH

  1. Official Street Fighter IV FightStick Tournament Edition

    • 16 inches; 406.40 mm

  2. Hori Real Arcade PRO

    • 15.75 inches; 400.05 mm

  3. Virtua Stick High Grade

    • 13.75 inches; 349.25 mm

Here are pics to help you visualize it better (pic measurements shown in inches only):

Final regular FightStick:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CsxvLuibL.SS500.jpg

Fight Pads:
http://www.gamecyte.com/ces-2009-mad-catz-street-fighter-iv-arcade-stick-pad

http://www.gamecyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ces-202.jpg

http://www.gamecyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ces-203.jpg

**
MarkMan’s Writeup:
**I finished my writeup awhile ago. It didn’t turn out how I wanted it to, but there is some info in there (preview pics, initial concepts etc.)… Also the art templates for both sticks are in there!

Check it out… via http://sdtekken.com

http://sdtekken.com/2009/02/07/making-the-grade-a-fightstick-story/**

REVIEWS:**
1up: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172420
IGN: http://gear.ign.com/articles/947/947933p1.html
http://kotaku.com/5138267/hands-all-over-street-fighter-iv-tournament-edition-fight-stick
Gamepro: http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/208589/mad-catz-street-fighter-iv-arcade-sticks-reviewed/
Kotaku: http://kotaku.com/5139955/street-fighter-iv-tournament-edition-fight-stick-review-shoryuken
Kotaku: Brian opens the TE http://kotaku.com/5140845/hands-inside-the-sfiv-tournament-edition-fightstick
SRK: [media=youtube]y1e4k3Myyak&eurl=http://shoryuken.com/[/media]
Eurogamer: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/mad-catz-fightstick-tournament-review

SRK Tech review playlist by ShinJN: http://www.youtube.com/user/shinjnSRK

SE FightStick Review:
IGN: http://gear.ign.com/articles/948/948655p1.html
Play Online:http://www.playmagazine.com/index.php?fuseaction=SiteMain.showGamePage&Game_ID=963

Pad Review:


http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/reviews/review.pl?sys=hardware&game=madcatz_fightpad

Media:
Unboxing:
[media=youtube]fSasAr_Dxmk[/media]

CES:

* http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...n-new-products
* http://kotaku.com/5128016/ces-09-han...rnament-sticks
* http://gear.ign.com/articles/943/943834p1.html
* http://arstechnica.com/journals/thum...-arcade-sticks
* http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...=rss&attr=news
* http://www.gamedaily.com/gear/2009/0...ck-first-look/
* http://play.tm/news/22833/mad-catz-o...iv-controller/
* http://ces.gamespot.com/story.html?sid=6202941
* http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2009/...-sf4-1st-look/
* http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=58701
* http://www.destructoid.com/ces-2009-...n-117539.phtml
* http://www.accessmaterial.com/mad-ca...s-accessories/
* http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10134747-100.html
* http://kotaku.com/5125288/mad-catz-h...wx-controllers
* http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2009/01...s-accessories/
* http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56649
* http://gaygamer.net/2009/01/capcom_a...sfiv_with.html
* http://www.psu.com/Mad-Catz-reveal-o...0006046-p0.php
* http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...ounced-at-Last
* http://www.xboxsolution.com/2009/01/...tick-fightpad/
* http://www.videogamer.com/news/08-01-2009-10318.html
* http://www.*******.com/2009/01/07/ma...s-accessories/
* http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ma...iv-peripherals
* http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16788

Previews:
http://www.gamecyte.com/ces-2009-mad-catz-street-fighter-iv-arcade-stick-pad
http://ces.gamespot.com/video/6202965/
[media=youtube]rcsQ17oGm_M&feature=channel_page[/media]
[media=youtube]CwfcVaOETfE[/media]

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yuck indeed.

edit: yuck was posted before pics and info was even out!
neg rep, dummies.

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this is something different methinks. capcom would not got to fatcats to produce a high quality arcade stick. this is probably a revamp of the collector controllers from a few years back

edit: dec 09…yeah i was wrong lol. they went to madcats and they did great. neg me plz

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no be assured that Seth Killian is “designing” the stick

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Mad Catz? Why Not Hori???

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My guess is it’s a fighter gamepad. A retro controller of sorts. D-pad, 6 face buttons.

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If it’s anything like the Saturn controller (the later ones not the batarangs) Then I’ll try em out. if it’s anything like the nubytech ones that came out a few years back, I’ll probably stab an infant.

8

So disappointed.

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MadCatz has a horrible track record. Even so, I will reserve judgement till I get my hands on whatever SF goods they create. Everyone deserves a second chance…right?!

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Yes, but with MadCatz this would be like a 7th chance :rofl:

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C’mon guys. There has to be a silver lining to all of this. I mean, there is a decent chance the PCB will be common ground…

Right?

12

Sounds to me like it’s just SFIV themed peripherals… not any type of official SFIV stick. I hope not anyway (eek!).

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Hello,

I guess I can finally say something about this. Yes Mad Catz is working on Street Fighter IV products in conjunction with Capcom. They will be official Capcom licensed products. Seth and Ono-san have been working with us in order to provide/design the best possible product.

I’m not sure if you know, but you should, s-kill/Seth is a long time Street Fighter player and knows more than enough about arcade sticks, and I’m sure he will assure you(so will I) that these products will rock. I’m part of the team working on this project and if you don’t know about me, I’m an arcade stick maniac, I know what works and what doesn’t. I just ask that you look forward to the product.

The team here at Mad Catz is really dedicated to getting the SF IV products just right and I guarantee you they will be well worth the time/wait. While I can’t disclose anything specific about it or the actual design, nor will I answer any questions about it, be rest assured that a lot of research and experience is going into these projects.

So while I am aware Mad Catz has had ‘issues’ with other products in the past, this shouldn’t deter you from this new joint venture with Mad Catz x Capcom. Please look forward to it.

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Ill be happy with a top metal panel, interchangeable Art, acrylic or lexan and a reliable wired PCB with QD’s.

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I knew you knew something about this and yeah I guess we don’t have to worry, because seth is the one seeing through this project.

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Argh! Such a tease! :lol:

It is great to hear that two of the community (avid enthusiasts and players) are directly involved in this process. I thought you basically just had an inside source, but being involved in it is encouraging.

Would be really really nice to see the US get a good quality production stick that is moddable. Along with what V4mpiro mentioned.

/praying this/these stick(s) comes through.

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whats the ETA of this SF controller

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I always keep my ears/eyes to the streets. lol.

Trust me, I’m not kidding when I say a lot of research/testing goes into this project.

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Here’s the first one. Get the patents from Sega and re-release the Saturn Fighting pad like they did when Vampire Savior collection came out for the PS2 a few years back. That controller is still the best controller for fighters next to a stick.

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Tell them to give me my money back for the defective PS3 controller they sold me. :stuck_out_tongue: