Official SRK Ultra SF4 Rebalance Request Thread

[Sharin]

No more counter hit status on guile´s sonic boom, bad news for us zangief players…I cannot understand the gief part, reduced the damage of LP spd and changed stun values? Also they improved c.lp so it´s harder to jump away from him?

[cerberusfx]

lool from what I understand Bison gets +5 after FADCing his SK ?
ken got AGAIN buffed lol…I think he’s more than complete now XD

[LoyalSol]

Yea they buffed the damage on his EX SRK to be 190.

[HNIC_Mike]

i wish i could read japanese.

dont quote me, but from what i can make of google translator it it looks like

honda has upper body inv back on his lp headbutt, something about zangiefs crouching light punch hitbox increase to hit more crouched opponents, guiles air throw is back to 3 frames, and the counterhit is gone from booms.

some type of adjustment to improve ex yoga blast for sim, rogs headbutt damage is back to super. bison has more frame advantage on a cancelled scissor.

viper got damage nerfs on tks and her ultra. blanka got damage boosts on blanka balls. kens target combo better, ryus dp improved somehow

[HNIC_Mike]

No more counter hit status on guile´s sonic boom, bad news for us zangief players…I cannot understand the gief part, reduced the damage of LP spd and changed stun values? Also they improved c.lp so it´s harder to jump away from him?

i think its saying after a jump in his crlp wont whiff on certain crouching characters, but lp spd got some sort of damage or stun nerf

I love some of the botched translations on there. Gayle = Guile. Says what I have been thinking about him for a while.

It looks like Viper got damage nerfs. 10 damage off her knuckle, 20 off her seismo, and her Ultra down to 441. Hard to tell though if that is what it is saying about her Ultra.

in addition to the damage nerfs it looks like its easier to land. not sure which ultra they were talking about

[LoyalSol]

Sagat is nearly unchanged. Just a 10 damage buff it looks like on angry scar uppercut.

[Little_Goten]

The only thing I got from that was upper-body invincibility on Honda’s weak headbutt. I hope I read that right.

[Eternal]

Yea they buffed the damage on his EX SRK to be 190.

Because:

ken mastered the srk and put fire on it

Also, I can’t believe no one has mentioned this: Ken Masters - Ken Mastered! <.<

AAAAAAANNNNNNNNYWWAAYYYS
I find it neat that they seem to be concentrating on counter hits as a major part of how they are rebalancing it.

[LoyalSol]

Because:

Also, I can’t believe no one has mentioned this: Ken Masters - Ken Mastered! <.<

AAAAAAANNNNNNNNYWWAAYYYS
I find it neat that they seem to be concentrating on counter hits as a major part of how they are rebalancing it.

If they seriously buffed it because of that one post… >_<

[BentoBox]

from front page

Ryu

Increased the vertical hitbox on U2 for better anti-air/full animation.
Can combo full U2 after counter hit Shakunetsu Hadoken. So if c.mk gets absorbed by a FA, Ryu can do EX Fireball, FADC U2 for 500 damage. If Ryu is close range he can hit EX Fireball -> U2 without FADC.
The “brake” frame on air Tatsu decreased by 3 frames, if used on this frame the trajectory will change.
Solar plexus 40+60 for 100 total damage.
If he hits S.RH counter hit on a crouching opponent he can combo sweep after it.

Chun

Head stomps will come out on DF, not just D. They note that DB won’t work though.
Kintekishu (B+MK) +3 advantage on counter hit, easier to hit confirm into the second hit.
Sweep 150 stun.
Kikoken startup 9F, easier to use as AA/use in combos.
They are fixing the bug where characters fell out of the U1 juggle in AE.

Ken

Target combo hits easier on crouching opponents, can also delay the inputs.
EX Shoryuken damage 80+30+30+50, 190 total.

Honda

Jab headbutt gets its upper body invincibility back.
Strong headbutt loses it, so it works the same as Jab Headbutt did in AE.

Blanka

Each ball gets an extra 10 in damage, so Jab 110, Strong 120, Fierce 130, EX 120.
For Fierce and EX Ball, if it hits on the second frame (same frame where FA cancel is possible), it causes blow-back damage. Will be easier to follow-up EX Ball with additional hits if FADC’d.
Charged Rock Crusher gives Blanka a 5 frame advantage, so he can do Rock Crusher, C.MK, FP Ball as a combo.

Gief

Jab SPD 150 stun.
EX Backfist damage 90+50 for a total of 140. Stun 100+50 for a total of 150.
Adjusted the hitbox on c.jab, so that it hits more easily off a jump-in against characters it formerly didn’t. Hurtbox for c.short reduced in height, making it easier to pass under certain attacks.

Guile

Balance adjustments centered around the changes made to him from Super to AE.
The frames in which Guile could be counter-hit after Sonic Boom have been eliminated? (Not 100% sure)
Air throws 3F startup.
Spinning backfist 100 damage.
Can’t be thrown out of upside down kick from the 6th frame until the last active frame.

Dhalsim

Yoga Inferno damage 75 x 2, 60 x 3 for a total of 330 damage.
EX Yoga Blast damage 90 + 50. First hit gets 20 more damage, second hit 20 less, so if Sim only gets the first hit he gets the better damage.
S.jab active for 4F. But other frame info unaltered.
Hurtbox on Yoga Blast reduced.
Can follow up Yoga Blast with additional moves for combo.

Balrog

Headbutt damage fixed back to Super, strong 120, Fierce 140, EX 150.
U2 damage 399.
Hit properties on Dash Overhead changed so that it can combo into c.strong on all characters.
Close stand fierce hitbox extended downwards so that it hits crouching characters that it used to whiff on.

Sagat

Angry Scar Tiger Uppercut damage increased: LP, MP, and EX get +10

Viper

-MP Thunder Knuckle 120 -> 110 damage
-EX Thunder Knuckle startup reduced to 25f, but +2 recovery
-EX Seismo 120 -> 100 damage
-U1 -> 441 damage
-U1 hitbox improved so it’s easier to hit fully after air burnkick and HP Thunder Knuckle
-U2 damage increased to 410

Vega

-cr.HK damage increased to 110, same as Super.
-+1 more frame of hitstun on the opponent after cosmic heel, making it -3 at worst.
-Sky High Claw causes blowback when it hits a grounded opponent (same words as the blanka ball change)
-U1 hitbox after it hits on the way up increased drastically so that it doesn’t unexpectedly miss.
-U2 startup changed to 8f.
Bison

-Scissors stun changed to 100/50 (150 total) on all strengths
-First hit causes 1f extra hitstun, so if you FADC the first hit you can have +5 advantage at best.

[Eternal]

If they seriously buffed it because of that one post… >_<

Of course not, but that argument was just too funny not to necro since it had become topical again

[Little_Goten]

So the hurtbox on Ryu’s c.mk stays the same? That blows.

[HNIC_Mike]

viper nerfs giving a bleak outlook for the trinity

[stabicron]

So the hurtbox on Ryu’s c.mk stays the same? That blows.

Why not? It hardly makes any difference from what I can tell.

[Little_Goten]

Why not? It hardly makes any difference from what I can tell.

I’m only annoyed because it caused a lot of good Ryu players to drop him completely. I love watching and playing against good Ryu players. Always fun.
Oh well, at least he gets a 500 damage FADC ultra off of it now, hopefuly that will bring some of those players back.

[HNIC_Mike]

I’m only annoyed because it caused a lot of good Ryu players to drop him completely. I love watching and playing against good Ryu players. Always fun.
Oh well, at least he gets a 500 damage FADC ultra off of it now, hopefuly that will bring some of those players back.

wait till you see the nerfs for yun and fei. thats where most of em went

[America]

Oh well, at least he gets a 500 damage FADC ultra off of it now, hopefuly that will bring some of those players back.

It takes 3 bars to use it though, not worth it.

[Little_Goten]

wait till you see the nerfs for yun and fei. thats where most of em went

I hope they’re not too bad. How can I kick their asses if they end up sucking in the end?

It takes 3 bars to use it though, not worth it.

Well . . . fuck. >_>

[LoyalSol]

viper nerfs giving a bleak outlook for the trinity

Yea now I actually sort of dreading the Akuma section. I really hope Capcom doesn’t get any bright ideas.

[Killer_Jigglypuff]

It takes 3 bars to use it though, not worth it.

500 damage isn’t worth 3 bars? Alrighty then.