First of all, people from last few pages saying Yang is just fine and doesn’t need nerf, and someone even said he’s hp needs to buff on top of that… That’s pure ignorant. Just because you don’t play arcade and don’t SEE the Yang in actions in US tourneys doesn’t mean they are not op as YOU think.
AGAIN, Sagat’s lk is no where as safe & good as Yangs. Saying someone has to fight up close need such move is also stupid. I put Zangief on spot just to demonstrate how stupid you were.
Back to Yang, with lk, lp, cr.lk, cr.mk cancel into slash, he can apply pressure easily, push opponent to wall easily, build meter easily… with absolutely no risk (-2 on block). If it is hit, can FADC some damage combo. Mid range Yang doesn’t have troubles… just wtf are you talking about?
^^ Yes, and Guile should have +2 on FK and a command grab ultra.
I enjoy the craziness of AE. If a character is lacking somewhat in the areas they are supposed to be good in, I would personally advocate buffing them in those areas. The weaker the character is, the stronger the buffs. It would be extremely interesting to see the balance get flipped way out of control by doing something like that. It’s hard to imagine, but it would be a blast IMO.
On a more serious note, people need to chill about tiers. Regardless of what happens, someone will always emerge as top tier, and when they do, why not try playing them yourself? You might get a strong second or even main. At worst, you’re going to learn how to deal with that character’s stuff.
Being a character specialist doesn’t earn you any brownie points.
you do understand theres a difference between a close range fighter and a grappler, right? im gonna guess no.
also, you know how everyone bitches about the range nerf on ryus cr.mk? it still out reaches anything yang has that cancels. you take away the stlk cancel, and his footsies would be pretty low grade where right now theyre just average. stop acting like you know anything about yang
If we are talking about who has the higher ceiling that is clearly Yun so at a high level of play Yun will do better. What I was saying however was that Yang is easier to pick up and make decent as opposed to Yun where you have to have a good understanding of his dive kick game and overall need a high level of SF knowledge in general to make scary.
Yang’s basic tools are way easier to pick up and use compared to Yun. For starters Yang’s dive kick is much safer on block that Yun’s is. While Yang’s is slower it is still fast enough to cause problems. Another quality about Yang that Yun doesn’t have is the fact most of his moves you can FADC out. Yun’s moves you can’t in most cases and even the ones you can are actually unsafe on FADC! His Shoulder FADC Foward dash is actually punishable! Yang’s ability to FADC out of his wake up also gives him another level of security that Yun doesn’t have. In addition if you don’t know how to OS it is way easier for people to escape Yun’s pressure than Yang’s since Yun’s has more gaps in it that you have to cover with OS Lunge.
I made a prediction before Evo that the average Yun player would fall flat on his/her face and I was right for the most part. Almost every Yun player I saw went 0-2 and I destroyed two of them in my own pool. It was the high level Yun players like Kindevu, Diago, Xian, etc who were wrecking house with him. Yun does need some nerfs, but I think I seriously disagree with anyone who say’s Yun is brainless. If you understand what Yun wants to do then the average Yun player isn’t going to give you trouble. The average Yang player though will be more of a problem since most of them have figured out how to use his pressure safely.
I think Yang does need some nerfs, but it probably won’t be a ton of them. Mostly to his meter gain.
I do understand the difference between close range and grappler. But you didn’t say that you said “someone has to fight up close” I was picking your words and returning the favor to you, smart one 
lk w/o cancel = worse footsies… of course not, the move is still there hows that worse smart one? I do think I know much more about Yang than you. All you did is like “you’re stupid…; you’re ignorant…” complete trolling fashion. If you want to take things personal then msg me, otherwise learn and think before you talk.
Overall, Yang’s brust damage is not as good as Yun, but his resets & mixups are very scary due to decent normals and +frame & crossup divekicks. More OS options. His defensive tool is also better than Yuns. Up kick cancellable and ex dash is good! Go through fireball full screen, very well rounded, strong(OP) character.
i dont know why i try sometimes…
For Akuma: 50 more stun and health, and make sweep 150 stun. That is all
It would seem that you have little idea of what ‘OP’ means. Your posts aren’t adding up either, and you’re not impressing anyone by insulting other people without being able to coherently put up a reasonable argument to match or properly discredit the arguments from the person in question, who has been rebutting what you’ve been writing. It’s strange how you ignore that each time, and pretend that you somehow won that little exchange.
Give it a rest with the sensational talk about Yang. Sure, he’s very strong, but you’re making him out to be the be all and end all of AE.
thanks spartan. we know thats feis spot. lol
Seth needs his stomps back!
Well, Fei did win Evo. And it was a rondom scrub nobody’s heard of who did it amirite? Bet he played Fei for like a week too.
I’m still surprised I’ve not seen Dan become a little more popular seeing how he has a couple of combo options now. His meter building is good, his Dankyakus are safe, do good chip and lead to a 50/50 each time. His DP is good. His fireball is a footsie tool rather than a zoning tool, but again it builds lots of meter and serves that purpose well. I may have to take a proper look at Dan myself to be fair, I’m making him sound really annoying, which I love.
the problem with a lot of the trash being posted here about how fei and yun and so on are totally balanced and it’s everyone else who’s out of whack, how do you buff the bottom tiers to make them competitive with the top? like, what could you possibly do to a character like rose to make her compete with yun & co. and still play like rose? you can’t give her crazy tools like a dive kick or command grab or safe rekkas because there is no way they’re changing the game that much anymore, and it breaks her character identity anyways. would you just make her do crazy, fei-like damage? make spiral 100% safe from all ranges? give her a dragon punch? and how much would changes like that totally fuck up the rest her matchups?
He really doesn’t… I play Seth (Badly) & even i know it’s not vital he gets his stomps back… I’d love it don’t get me wrong, but it’s not necassary. If i could suggest anything for Seth it would be.
- 2n’d & third are are to the floor (This should solve any pissy legs to stomp combos) doubt this’ll ever happen though.
- Increase range of EX driver to LP
- Reduce Meter gain on his dive kick. (Slightly)
Improve s.hp startup
Improve reflect active frames
Decrease the hurtbox on soul throw
Give her back retarded U2
Unnerf c.mp…
Just shooting shit really, but I think there are definately ways to buff her current mediocre toolset without falling into obscenity.
I don’t hate the twins cause everyone thinks they are over powered, I hate them becuase they are poor designs. There moves look boring and they have no dress sense. I get the horrible feeling that they are ment to appeal to the younger generation. I think words like hip, urban, possibly even funky were used to put the designers on the right track. Do they even use there skates. I hope they do more research in future designs. And since the game is called Street Fighter, but yet it has no Irish bare nuckle boxer, I was banged up wiv a real street fighter he was in for breaking someones jaw.
People were more into street fighter when the 2nd one first came out, hitbox’s and all the balancing issues were there back then, but no one was speaking like this. I personaly think this is insane, for the player street fighter is becoming more about graphs and charts than skill and fun, we will all be using calculators instead of joysticks next.
You all want this to be a competive sport, but you don’t hear football players arguing over the width of goal posts, and we got beat so lets make the other teams goal bigger and ours smaller. SOme standardisation is needed, to such an extent so as it is nothing to do with us, we should just be able to play and have fun. It should be to the point where you can literally take ryu from one street fighter and place him in sf12 and it still work out, maybe with minor tweekings, but nothing that we should loose sleep over, and certainly nothing that should phase someone who has only played with sf4 ryu and is now playing with him in sf12.
Has anyone ever thought that maybe they made ae sf like that is becuase you all have been coatin sf X tkn, so if they make sum dumb balances in ae, then you will all want to jump on sfXtkn when it comes out. I think some of you guys needing nerfing as opposed to the character sin the game. WHat the fuck is nerfing anyway. you got nerfed, is it like beeing smurfed.
A little secret I have to let out now, I actually made a fake profile a long while back, and I started using some made up words, and slated people who sounded like they were noobies, and most of you are using them today. lol
One word I learnt from you guys is troll or trolling, I used to think it was your girl who scared the goats away, but aparently it’s when you start a thread up with all the best intentions, but elitist geeks and power hungry moderators penalise you for inciting violence. The more polite you are the more of a troll. See I would of thought my previous paragraphs were trolling, but I know for a fact that being a dick on here is totaly acceptable. If only some of you could be re-balanced then that would make sense
None of what you wrote made any.
Kinda the point, I made a good comment earlier and only one person realised it, but hundreds of people will reply in seconds if they have something negative to say about something they feel is pointless. People reply to the same old thing, I say something unique and worthwhile and it’s ignored, but whining about who gets smurfed and who gets buffed by 10points over and over again is stupid especialy if it’s just, smurf the twins, yes, it’s a given, lets try and think of something else now.
people who also say that yun is brainless and you can win with him with no knowledge of the game must really suck.