God forbid you have to set up and use your moves correctly. That game where uppercuts zip across the screen? I think you might want to just play Street Fighter II: Rainbow Edition instead.
c.lk, c.lp, c.lp xx FP Shoryuken?
Ken’s DP is good enough already because it’s hit confirmable so you can FADC on block, and has great forward momentum so it can’t really be backdashed and it’s good for combos.
His tatsu doesn’t hit overhead because he can combo after it into big damage options. Other shotos knockdown on hit, except Akuma, who gets his vortex started from it, which is likely why their tatsu hit high.
Also, stop trolling.
Move over Yun, Move over Vanilla Sagat, move over Akuma from HD Remix
You make this thread enjoyable though dude. I hope they make that Oni, then we really will have broken tier.
Oni could really use an FADCable Shoryuken on block.
If you are indeed “a pure external viewpoint that is untouched by the common biases of the forum” and therefore, you lack of general knowledge about the game, I think you should just read the suggestions that make sense, see how the debates goes between people about some characters, instead of just suggesting stuffs that clearly don’t make sense.
I just call these kind of post Troll posts
Vega needs a reversal (ex scarlet terror), Honda either give him a little bit more damage or give him back his headbutts, Balrog back to super Rog, Blanka give him his hop back make electricity a better reversal (if they can mash DP let me mash electricity) and make his up ball less punishable Idc about rainbow roll or beast roll (Fei long can punish ex u.ball when hit but if he blocks he can’t punish… ) And finally give Hakan the damage e.honda could do in super and make T.hawk the best char in the game along with Gen, Nerf Fei like Rufus got it #FuckYun lower his stun slower command grab more recovery on it less range, less damage on shoulder, and make his super gaining a little bit slower
Yep, all Street Fighter information is the exclusive possession of the SRK boards, and not being a regular poster means you lack general knowledge of the game. You heard it here folks… on the SRK boards…
I should be offended that you can’t take me seriously when i make suggestions, and yet you seem to have no issue with the guy who wants Ryu’s fireball to have Sonic Boom recovery time. Should be offended that is, but i’m able to rise above your level. You want to call me a troll instead of discussing the validity of a balance thread? Maybe “If you’re bored you should go do something else”.
“>_>”
And yet apart from Seth he has some of the best invincibility on his DPs.
Seriously don’t look at just damage. Ken’s DP is more than just damage.
lacking knowledge doesnt mean you know nothing. not my problem if you didnt find proper information elsewhere or didnt look enough…
I just pointing your post because it was the one I read when I opened the page. But this is applies to every other post found in this thread that has no real meaning and are here just for the bla bla
and as far as I know I did do something else instead of writing nonsense on this thread: I read other people’s suggestions, gave my opinion, read debates about problems about some characters, etc…of course I could’ve said that Rose needs to hit hard like gouken, spiral needs to do spd damage since she has lowest damage of the game (oh I learned this from eventhubs, funny huh) but there’s a difference on suggesting interesting stuff that could open a debate and suggesting stuff that would only make people look at it and say “lol” to themselves and move on
-Cant vega use Flying Barcelona Attack (or EX) to escape pressuring ?
-Honda does need his damage back…bleh, remove nerf from majority of the old cast is pretty much what capcom should do and adjust some small tweaks on some characters…A lot of people are still craving for old vanilla gen to be back for example…I think he would fit AE perfectly
people tend to forget about hitbox / frames and other stuff
people would die for their character to be able to have "OHKO moves while have 1100 stamina / health"
its only about brute force 
I have to tell new Akuma players the same thing. Damage isn’t everything. Sometimes taking a little less damage for better utility or position is a good thing.
I would like to see juri’s counter have a faster start up or something. Also a solid reversal. Her ex pin wheel looses/trades with really meaty moves. Or moves with a lot of active frames. Also I would like to see her ultra 2 hit being her seeing how it fully rotates around her but it does not hit behind her. Maby not suck them into the full ultra animation but just hit them.
a full distance fireball will make him op?
ex air dashes are in the game, you can do a pc mod to get them, they were originally in but removed for some reason, the difference is that you can do normals or air tatsu or ultra one after the ex dash… pretty sure he will be broken if he jumps, uses one bar on an unsafe forward dash and then crosses u up right?
fadc’able shoryuken on block will make him op?
better angle on his qcfqcfKKK ultra 1 will make him op? or make his anti air ultra 1 more usable other then from a srk fadc for 10 extra damage?
his air ultra 1 is useless, faster start up might make it usable in some way or it seems to u it will be op? show me a way to use it EFFECTIVELY right now
teleport, its akuma in his strongest full demon form and he loses his teleport?
better input for ultra 2 will make him broken?
you also realize that when people make suggestions, they don’t expect all of them right?
yes I agree but you can get hit out of Barcelona attack 85% of the time using it as a reversal or wakeup Just would prefer one that would be viable in a situation in which you would be under pressure ex. I was playing dmg gridmans viper and tried to use Barcelona attack (ex) got hit out of it then tried ex scarlet terror and got the same results
This is all a joke right? This is the sort of garbage I am takling about, especially the Ken stuff. Ken is the best shoto in the game as he currently is. He needs 0 buffs.
Honda does not need his damage back at all.
Alot of people have mentioned this already, but some just ignore it. It’s not really a re-balance more of wrapping up what was started.
1: Aracade Edition title screen and all updated animations intros etc.
2: All challenges trials updated for new balances and new characters challenges added, they are really useful for people of all levels of play to learn.
3: CReate your own challenges and upload them. Alot of games now such as little big planet, infamous 2 etc are all incorporating create your own level, and share within the community, not only would this extend the life of the game some what, it would also help the scenes development and in away you tube uploads can’t do. As the inputs can be matched up, doubles of trials can be nipped in th ebud, and what would be kool, is if at certain points, the game could suggest variations, at points where combos branch.
4. TAke care when balancing this time and leave it at that, how is it possible to keep up if you are forever playing about with the mechanics. And some things are so obvious, so don’t be stupid, and hurry up with sf5
Although I agree Ken does not need buff, why people keep saying Ken is the best shoto in the game? Shouldn’t it be Akuma?
I don’t think Ken has any bad matchups. If you want to give a 6-4 for the twins against Akuma (or even 7-3 vs Yun if you’re one of the whiners), Ken comes out ahead in matchups.