probrably because 9/10 online giefs are churning 720s at the slightest sign of pressure
Lol, if you guys say so.
Every time I grab a Zangief, I celebrate a little inside.
I know what you mean but blocking is almost always the best option.
I actually have a lot of faith in Capcom that 2012 will be very well balanced.
3rd time is a charm.
I agree, throwing a grappler just screams, I aint afraid of yo throws, PUNK. Till you get 360’d, then its like, ok maybe I stop that now.
Making Hakan not absolutely suck shit tier would be so easy. Just give him a proper command grab throw range already. It might not be invincible outside of EX but at least then the opponent won’t be able to just sit in his face and pressure him for free. If they want to keep up the pressure they will have to mix in more jumping which Hakan can swat with st.hp.
Such a simple fix seriously. Instantly much more viable character.
People who are overly concerned about a character’s wakeup usually don’t have good fundamental defense anyway.
what is balanced. that is such a subjective term. YOur balanced is not balanced for me.
He has the longest SPD range in the game while oiled.
im sure he meant un oiled
And he doesn’t, Zangief’s is longer.
Why do people think that better balance ensures a better game?
longer than hakan lp oiled?
checks wiki
wow, youre right zangief lp spd 1.65, hakan oiled lp spd 1.6
MSHvSF was incredibly well balanced. It was also boring as shit and got dropped for MvC1 immediately.
Well lets turn that around, why do people think imbalance ensures a better game?
Balance or working towards balance doesn’t necessarily mean that all the fun has to be sucked out of the game.
Yeah, the new fullscreen LP SPD beats it by maybe 0.05, but Hakan has 1.60 on all versions of his Oil Rocket, plus best ultra grab range. I just think focusing on more ways to oil up (like reduced startup or recovery on LK Oil, something like that) would solve more problems than increased unoiled grab range. Personally, I think Hakan is quite strong as is, and agree with Ultra David on the fact that if you buff him further, he might become too strong.
id main the fuck out of a top tier hakan
Depends honestly, sometimes you just need a gtfo me move.
I play a character who can be ultra’d for doing all of his reversals though even if the one hits so maybe I’m biased.
Haha yeah, hopefully juicebox too, and then we get to see his ultra danc…oh wait.
- Me looks at Vanilla SF4…people whining because of sagat (aka couldn’t try to become better)
- Me looks at SSF4…during the 1st weeks of SSF4 everyone enjoyed it…by the end of it people complained/ about guile’s tactics / honda’s damage / rose u2 / not being able to escape seth’s u2 / rufus’s U2 / bison’s u2 / roflcopter of akuma etc…
- Me looks at AE…divekicks and palms, nerfs on some characters and “safe pressure” from some characters
- Me looks at MvC 3…wolverine / sentinel / phoenix|D.phoenix
My conclusion: when 1-2-3 characters are overall better than a lot of the cast (vanilla sf4/ae/mvc3), people that dont want to learn the game or find this unfair will complain.
If its just about some minor problems on certain characters (ssf4) you will here a minority of people complaining
well that’s my opinion.