Official SEGA Saturn PC & PS2 Control Pad Thread

“This controller is an authentic Sega product producted in limited quantities in 2004. Beware of other sellers who sell counterfeit versions of this item.
I guarantee that this controller is a Genuine limited run Sega product!
Don’t miss it!”

“1,660 available”

LOL.

that’s gotta be the dumbest attempt at selling* rare* products.

I ordered mine from powergamer88 will post back soon, it’s a bootleg though, no Sega logo. I found another seller who has an identical store; egamestar.
My guess is they are from the same source… apparently stuff from powergamer88 is from JapanVideoGames, heard they’re pretty good since '92.

i Also found this, says genuine, got a Sega logo on it…if anyone is interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Original-SEGA-Saturn-SS-USB-Control-PS3-White-/130437363303?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item1e5eac3667

K the bootleg after 2 minutes of trying it out is so far disappointing.

Plugged it in the ps3 it functions, so it’s not a dead pos. i take it to training, the d-pad isn’t bad, at times i press a direction and it doesn’t register. It’s jsut that I haven’t made contact with the contact pad, but usually when you press a button with intent you don’t have to worry about pressing it a little harder to ensure that it’ll work. All the buttons are not configured to the tradition to 6 buttons light medium hard with triggers being PPP and KKK respectively… I said oh that’s not that bad i can configure this in the menu. As I press the start button, nothing registers… WTF WHY??? So that’s just great I can’t even press the start button i can’t even configure the controls in game because the start button is not registered. Also there’s this rattling noise something inside is loose, something might have broke or come loose, will look into it soon.

Right now, the configuration (on a ps3):
Direction: All correct
L: :3k:
R: :hk:
A: :lp:
B: :lk:
C: :mk:
X: :mp:
Y: :3p:
Z: :hp:

on the 6 button face it’s like this:
mp-3p-hp
lp-lk-mk

Luckily I’ll be using this for vanilla pc so i can configure the controls ahead of time at well use esc for the start button. Now I jsut hope the dpad doesn’t break down.

Pics + PCB pics please?

i’ll get pics up later, i’m just disappointed that Y is crunched over something hindering it from registered at times. Same goes for A… I seriously don’t liek the feel of the d-pad or the 6 button face, personal preference, i’m going to see if that guy allows returns, and i’ll pick up a Nyko Core instead.

edit: it’s got that JG passed sticker on one of the screw holes. You better buy this controller now cuz im sure the guy wont take it back after ripping this sticker out.

edit:

Saturn CLONE PCB - Once i figure out how to ship stuff i can take this to the trading outlet for sure.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2057/dsc08804.jpg
Click for 1600px size.

brb i’m going to see if i can post this up on the trading outlet. Anyone who wants this better act fast :slight_smile:

Another question seeing that both the pc and ps3 version are usb, are they actually the same? or does the pc version not work on ps3 and otherway around?

Ther is no “ps3” version and “pc” version… it’s a usb male, it’ll go in a ps3 and a pc…

I received my pads a few days ago from focalprice. I like them and as far as the pcb is concerned they seem legit to me. The d-pad is great and it’s a lot easier to play with than with the DS3’s one. The buttons are ok overall but it’s a little awkward that L and R are so clicky. Maybe I’ll get used to that…
The only real flaw in my opinion is the pads’ cheap feel in comparison to high quality products such as the DS3.
Overall I think my money was well spent.

A couple people on the previous page wanted pics of the innards of the official Saturn USB pads, so I thought I’d bump this to share some. I snagged a USB pad and a PS2 pad from either NCSX or Play-Asia back when each of them were brand new, so I know mine are the genuine articles. Pics can be found here. I also still have the packaging for both SLS pads around here somewhere and could snap pics of those as well.

I snapped multiple pictures of three different controllers:

  • black PS2 pad by SLS
  • black USB pad by SLS
  • white Japanese Saturn pad sold during the later years of the console’s lifespan

Most of the parts between all 3 controllers seem to be identical in shape and completely interchangeable, though I didn’t bother trying that out myself. Both of the SLS pads in particular are pretty much exactly the same except for the Start/Select buttons and PCB.

There are 2 noticeable differences between the SLS pads and the original Saturn pad. One is the plastic piece that the d-pad connects to. This piece is opaque and slightly more flexible on the original Saturn pad; the SLS pads have a solid white piece that is slightly more stiff. This doesn’t seem to affect gameplay at all. Even though I’ve been using all of these pads for a while, I just went ahead and booted Alpha 3 on MAME, went into the input test, and tried out a bunch of different motions (236, 623, 41236, 360, etc.) for testing. All of them register correctly and consistently. The only directional inputs I’ve never been able to reliably perform on these pads are stuff like quick 4646 or 2828 motions; I always seem to graze another cardinal direction when doing this, and it’s a problem that’s always been common to all 3 pads for me.

The other difference between the SLS pads and the original Saturn pad is the shoulder buttons, which is more obvious. The Saturn pad’s shoulder buttons are completely plastic and each rest against a switch on the PCB. The SLS pads have an extra rubber strip on the shoulder buttons which rest against a slightly smaller switch on the PCB. The shoulder buttons on the SLS pads feel like they have a bit more “spring” in them. At any rate, I can’t say that I’ve ever had a problem with dropped inputs or stuck buttons on any of these 3 pads, so this doesn’t seem to be a substantial difference either.

I also have a few other pads that I didn’t bother checking but could if anyone was really curious or something:

  • gray Japanese Saturn pad sold during the console’s early years, made in Japan
  • black American Saturn pads sold during the console’s later years, some made in Malaysia, others in China

Both look identical to the white pad. There’s subtle differences in the way they feel but that could just be from varying degrees of wear over the years, and none of them feel any more or less responsive than the others. The PCB on the white pad still has a 1994 stamp on it, so that at least seems to have not been changed over the course of the console’s lifespan.

I’ve seen some people in this thread report that their SLS pads have broken down or at least feel like they’re about to fall apart after less than half a year of regular use. I definitely don’t think that should be happening if you have the real thing. I’ve had my SLS pads well before SF4 came out and have used them regularly in addition to my original Saturn pads via USB converters every once in a while. I have yet to have a problem with any of them.

sorry for bumping a dead thread but i NEED a ps2 saturn pad anyone know where i can buy one?

I have 2 for sale for 100 each, let me know if you are interested. 313 701 7991 or adonisthagod313@gmail.com (googletalk)

Is there anyone that will mod an original Saturn controller to be PC/PS3? I thought gummowned might (as I saw some old posts where he said he did it), I tweeted him about it but he didn’t respond.

If you going that route you might as well get the PC/PS3 they sell all over on ebay there are some good ones you just have to look and if your hard pressed to have the exact same casing as the old school saturn just buy an original new old stock/used Sega one for the actual saturn and the new saturn style usb one and switch the casing it will be hell of a lot cheaper than getting one modded and work out the same you just need a small phillips head and your good to go if you want it for the 360 now thats a different story

Here’s the setup I have, which is cheaper than hunting down expensive PS2 saturn pads. And you have the luxury of using your favorite broken in Sega Saturn pad. This setup works with PC, PS1/2/3, Xb360, and the original Saturn, of course.

Saturn to PSX adapter ~ $50
PS2 to 360 adapter ~ $8 (mine has a switch for ps3/360, and it does, indeed, work for both systems)

Daisy chain Saturn > PSX adapter, and then to a 360/ps3 adapter. (You will need an additional wired pad if you are using this for a 360). I have about 5 different official Sega Saturn pads which I can use with this setup.

I noticed no input lag. Everything comes out instantly.

Make own Converter using FGWidget Converter and a Cthulhu.
$15 for FGWidget Converter plus $30 for Cthulhu.

But then you would maybe want to put them inside a closure.
Then the cost would probably be like JOHNNY ERMAC.

By the way, does anyone know if the Saturn USB pads work well with Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection on PS3? I know that game is supposed to require the use of the select button which the Saturn pads don’t have, but I’m guessing you could get around that by using a dualshock as the second controller.

I’d be doing this if I could find a Sat->PSX adapter.

You got any particular recommendations?

You got any particular recommendations?
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“Make own Converter using FGWidget Converter and a Cthulhu.
$15 for FGWidget Converter plus $30 for Cthulhu.” - JDM aka the all knowing one. really this is your best choice. Mojochan use to make some but has since stopped. If you can find one than kudos to you. If you cant solder ask in the trading outlet to see if you can commission one.

So… I just bought the Retrolink Saturn pad you can find all over Amazon and eBay, plus I have an original Saturn pad on the way. The plan was to switch the PCB on the Retrolink into the case for the original, but… I’m trying the Retrolink on PS3 right now and no dice. The only button that registers is circle, and no start, so I can’t even start a 3rd Strike game. The D-pad feels really spotty, navigating the dashboard, I’m getting a lot of dropped or delayed inputs. So of course switching into the original case won’t make much of a difference.

So it looks like my only options are to get lucky and find an authentic SLS pad for less than the cost of my soul, or daisy chain my PS2>PS3 adapter with a Saturn to PS2 adapter (equally hard to find).

http://keio.dk/converters.html

Looks like he’s out of them at the moment. Shoot him an email to check availability. Alternatively, you can build your own like others suggested.