I have way more problems with that one then the SBR’s tier list. :rolleyes:
seconded.
Good for you? If you’re gonna come here and start throwing around roll eyes smilies like a condescending piece of shit you can go fuck yourself.
That list was made on june 9th 2008, cut it some slack god damn.
man i agree anyway yes for all i care the list is preety accurate actualy but i was making the arguement(over at smashboards) this game is very balance so you can stii very easily win with them in this game its not like marvel if you picked roll vs magneto we all no who going to win that one 
you can still pick c.falcon and beat
metanight obviously mk has the advantage but yes c.falcon DOES STAND A CHANCE.
i love melee xD
Ever played Portal?
Wait, nevermind. I just think there’s more wrong placements in that tier list than the SBR one. If you wan’t me to explain why I think that, feel free to ask not in a way that may seem like you want special attention.
Why is Ike so low? 
Because he’s fat.
Whatafatty.
I took issue with the roll eyes that you seemed to think was relevant. That was my knee jerk reaction. That post smacked of the arrogance we’ve come to find synonymous with Smash boards.
If I’m wrong though, you can feel free to reply to me without acting as though you’re preaching gospel to a bunch of smash acolytes.
thats why I have problems with it, it was pretty good for its time.
cause he isn’t that great in 1v1, unless your friends are stupid and like run into forward smashes. Seriously I like playing as Ike and I do good with him but fight like a good wolf, or pikachu and you will see why he isn’t that good.
GAHHHH: okay does anyone know a good MK player I keep hearing MK is unbeatable, I haven’t found a single MK player that didn’t get 2-3 stocked by me and my friends and none of us can play him worth anything despite the fact that he is supposed to be easy to play and safe. Sure he is good but when we first played this game everyone and their mother was playing MK or sonic except a few ppl, so we know the moves that outprioritize MKs B bullshit, and moves that zone out his A attacks. He is good but I question his suppose amazingness.
Of course. I have problems with the SBR tier list and I have problem with that one too because my opinion of some characters and some match-ups are different. I understand that everyone is entitled to different opinions and tastes, and I try to say mine without making that much of a fuss. For that I’m sorry.
MK’s moveset, overall, is probably better than all of the other characters. He is winning the most tournaments, his Mach Tornado completely nullify some characters (Like Luigi, for example. He doesn’t have a single move that can stop or out prioritize the tornado) and his recovery and air game is one of the best, and with that he gets the power to gimp characters even more easily than they were to begin with. MK, right now, has one or two bad-matchups, DK being the one most mentioned. His range and quick kill moves are said to be great against MK, even if the fact that his bulky frame is a disadvantage against the tornado.
I don’t know alot more than that, and I’m pretty sure the MK metagame’s evolution hasn’t stopped. Perhaps, one day, he won’t have any bad matchups…
But that doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable. A lot of characters from top,high and even some from Mid have beaten him in tournaments. A lot more characters are viable this time around, for certain.
More than anything, I don’t really like the 4 tier schema of SBR’s. It’s pretty inelegant. I took individual placements within SRK’s list pretty loosely. With more attention paid to individual tier placements. In particular, I still see Metaknight and Snake being sufficiently better than D3 and company.
Other than that, off the top of my head, Wolf looks too low and ICs, Peach, Mario and Kirby look too high.
Peach and ICs deserve to be right where they are (ICs are pretty damn good, Peach is like Elena…a few decent tools and that’s it, but better than the other suckfests). I’m too far removed from the metagame to see why Mario and (dear god) Kirby are where they are, but hey, I’ll accept that I need to learn more.
mario doesn’t suprise me he is pretty decent char and kirby yeah, he should be decently high, he has a stupid spike his f-smash kills at like 80-90%, has safe moves, a great recovery, and can combo most chars straight from 0-40% almost 1/2 way up to his killing damage.
And wolf is only high tier cause, at high level play he can be gimped, and while he can punish like OMG, he can also be baited an punished.
aw. poor baby.
Samus’s playstyle in Smash 64 was consistently wack. Like trying to manhandle a tractor.
lucas should be MUCH higher… i don’t understand his placement. the kid has insane recoveries, two meteor spikes, gimp kill w/ pk thunder… you can even cut back on pk fire lag with wavebounce. and ness should at least be mid tier.
i also disagree with link’s placement, he should be nowhere near capt falcon.
Link is gimpable cause his recovery is garbage other than that he isn’t so bad. and lucas hmm, not really sure where both him and ness should go either middle or bottom they are both threats but they are also not OMG how am I going to win this match.
I’m New to the SRK boards, but pretty familiar with smash.
I can honestly say that, this is the most accurate tier list I’ve seen so far.
idk a very experience lucas or ness player can do quite a bit of damage, especially since most of their moves stuff a lot of attacks, plus they have very strong airs and spikes. and fox… man he should be at least top of mid, if not high.
i can see how link’s pretty bad. i mean his recovery blows, he has no spikes, tilts are somewhat slow, kill moves are iffy… but his boomerang and bombs are what saves him in my opinion. plus his clawshot is great for edge games. i just feel he should be higher on low tier if anything.