According to Serebii, it’s called Moody in the English version. It’s probably best to refer to it by its English name to avoid confusion.
Most Smogonites want to ban anything that forces them to play the game differently, but I think the people running things there are sensible enough for the time being.
can you battle over wifi yet?
yea… while all of the online features for the game aren’t available yet, you can battle over wifi right now. Talk to the middle women upstairs in pokemon center to battle with friends or woman on the right to battle with random people
For friends battle, they took out the auto-leveling to 50 or 100 wifi feature from Diamond and pearl, instead the only options are “No restrictions” (which doesn’t alter levels) or “Flat Battle”, which uses the games built-in “official” ruleset and levels pokemon down to 50 (but not up).
Other than the level 50 down-leveling, Flat battle rules are 3v3 for single, 4v4 for doubles, and 6v6 for triples. No more than one of the same item on a team, and certain Pokémon are banned
Random battles always use the Flat Battle rules
P.S. Ephidel, if you wanna start off the black/white codes list, my friends code is: 1592-3957-3881
It could just be me, but it seems like there has been a lot of bias against Rain and, to a lesser extent, Sun by Smogon as of late. I can somewhat understand why (Swift Swim hurr), but when I notice that nothing is ever done to their precious Sandstorm teams it makes me reach for my tinfoil hat extremely quickly.
I guess as a Rain user, it makes me happy and extremely angry to see Rain getting hit with so many Smogon nerfs and seeing Sandstorm teams not only increasing in usage, but being completely ignored, rules-wise.
I’ve also yet to see a good reason for the Drizzle+Swift Swim ban. I’ve scoured the Smogon forums, but I’ve never actually seen them give a concrete reason for the ban besides “keeping the metagame stable,” which could literally mean anything.
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I’m a rain user too, so the drizzle + swift swim ban hurts. But I also love my sandstorm teams. :razzy:
Do we really have to use Smogon’s rules? Some things I’m fine with: Sleep Clause, Species Clause, ban of Moody, etc.) but others I’m not so sure. Like Mr. Beef said, I don’t see why the combination of Drizzle and Swift Swim is banned but Sandstorm teams are running amok.
Oh well, there’s always Ubers.
The big change Drizzle brings to weather as opposed to Rain Dance is one less round of setup and the effects lasts forever, just like Sandstream’s been since Gen III, the only difference being that we’ve had 8 years to get used to Sandstream in standard. I feel like if the situation were reversed, people would be complaining about sand now. “Guys, did you know that some pokes get perma sandstorm now with no setup? And that stuff HURTS you every round! As if Tyranitar needed another buff…”
Hopefully things will cool down once people get out of the Gen IV mindset and the Gen V metagame develops it’s own identity. I’m all for balance changes, but I don’t want Pokemon to eventually turn into “No items, Gyarados/Skarmory/Blissey/Swampert/Blaziken/Gengar only, Final Destination”.
Is there a summery of all the major points of the 5th Gen metagame right now? Cause I haven’t touched battling in a while now.
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I’m a huge fan of weather teams, and I love all of them because of how fast they can be (except Hail, but I have different reasons for not using it). I’ve got a Sandstorm team that I’m pretty proud of, but I’d love to be able to use Politoed with my Swift Swimmers without Smogon getting in a hizzy about it. Funny enough, I got so mad/confused about that ruling, I made a non-Drizzle Rain Dance team, and it’s been doing great. One person even got so salty in ladder, he tried to complain that I was cheating until I kindly pointed out that Politoed was nowhere to be found on my lineup, lol.
All in all, I just hope that this premature ruling is temporary. I’ve been wary of Smogon’s rules since the hilarious Salamence ban, so another weird ban might just be the proverbial straw, etc.
I havent played pokemon since the GBA days, and never really followed any competitive rules or anything. But I had no idea the smashboards crowds ran the pokemon rulesets, such a shame. Guess nintendo games and people heavily altering rulesets go hand in hand
If they are going to ban weather staples than it would have to be ALL types of weather. IMO, you can’t ban Rain Dance/Drizzle and not ban Sunny Day/Drought. What about pokemon that cause weather control through sheer ability? I always thought about that, Smogon is certainly putting the squeeze on metagame mechanics, it’s no different from when S/R was getting suspect for bannation.
OK, Mags FC is up. It’s still kinda early so I don’t expect many people will be putting up theirs this soon, but they’ll be on the first page should they get posted.
Also, there’s a battle video section part to first post if people wanna see some fights from here. Back in DDP I had nothing but trouble with that damn BR 
So far all the usual ubers were removed out, then Manaphy, Skymin, and Darkrai were banned, then this broken ability (Moody/Inconsistent) got banned, and then Swift Swim + Drizzle got banned.
Right now they’re nominating suspects…
Blaziken for ubers YEAHHHH
Hahaha… a generation or two ago, NO ONE was checking for Blaziken and now they want that ninja banned. The irony is thick. I’ve never really been a fan of Smogon… I once got banned for beating one of the mods. This dude got salty because I stomped his ‘bog standard’ team with the most hastily slapped together team ever. Seriously. Like 4 of my guys were weak to Ice Beam, for crying out loud!
He gets beat 3-0, goes and gets a ‘counter’ team (I just kept using my same guys) and gets beat again, 2-0. Dude gets mad, tells me, ‘You better not say shit.’ So what does a guy with authority issues do when someone tells him to sit down and shut up? You damn right I got right on the chat and announced in all caps how I just curb-stomped his ass, and BAM! Six-month ban.
It was at that moment right there that I stopped taking Smogon seriously and just play however and whatever I damn well please.
TL;DR version: Fuck Smogon. Play Pokemon however you want. Haters gonna hate.
I have no problem with some of their rulings, like Sleep Clause for example (which has been a staple rule that even NINTENDO has used since their first official tournaments). But some of these recent rulings seem to have been implemented just to preserve the status quo that so many people love (i.e: they don’t want their favorite teams to get wrecked).
Yep. Sleep Clause was just common sense though. Back in the day, if you were asleep, you just lost a poke. If you had more than one poke asleep, you lost the game. OHKOs to prevent ‘randomness and luck’ (sounds like Smashboards to me) from determining outcomes, same with Evasion moves.
Now, however, we’re going off the deep end into Smashboards-land style surgical clauses and rules all so we can keep playing the same old shit for another gen. Of course, Smogon basically boils down to ‘anything that is a threat to my T-Tar and Sandstorm based stalling bullshit is overpowered and must be banned’ so I’m not surprised they’re becoming insane and drunk with the rules.
I really hate ranting about Smogon, because I can’t be objective about it. Much like Smashboards which basically shouts down anything that threatens the sanctity of ‘their’ game. My blood boils to see a bunch of elitist and arrogant mouth-breathers ruining an otherwise fun and enjoyable game with their idiocy. So I attempt to stay out of it and hope people smarten up and stop letting the inmates run the asylum.
EDIT: That is not to say that all Smogoners nor Smashboarders are all like this, but since they allow this vocal minority to speak for them most of the time, they may as well not even exist. I have met some very intelligent and talented players from both fanbases and don’t want to lump everyone together like that.
I can also understand OHKO Clause, at least in Gen 1 since the accuracy was based off of who was faster (which is some bullshit). They’re “better” now thanks to the accuracy formula change, thank goodness (the accuracy is 30 + however many levels you are ahead of your opponent, and cannot be increased/decreased by evasion/accuracy moves, nor can it hit opponents at a higher level than you).
Seems like the OHKO Clause is a relic of the previous generations, and could stand to be re-evaluated…not that I see it going away at all, lol.
Yeah, old-school OHKOs were balls-out broken. Do Agility with Rapidash, and Horn Drill away! Also loved how Focus Energy REDUCED you chances for a critical.
Criticals are another thing people bitch about far too much. It’s a part of the game! Stop crying everytime a critical ruins your ‘perfect strategy’… If it were so perfect, you would have planned for getting smacked by that double damage(triple if was a poke with Sniper, love you, Drapion!)
These kids should be glad they’re not dealing with RBY-style crits based on Speed. There’s a reason everyone was running around with Persians back then, lol.
Don’t forget that Wrap or Fire Spin/Toxic combo whereif you’re slower you’re pretty much dead. And Amnesia/Hyperbeam Snorlax.Oh those were the days, the really retarded days.
Banning Blaziken and Reniculus so early is stupid and infantile BUT after researching Drizzle/ Swift Swim combo it does seem kind of broken and braindead easy to execute. There’s really like no reason to NOT use it… ever. Water is without question the best type in the game and there is so much advantages gained with that combo that any team not designed to counter it pretty much has a slim chance to win. Infinite weather is dumb concept in general, I always thought that these traits should only last 5 turns, but infinite Sandstorms and Rain? SMH.
Moody is like a randomizer with little to no drawback, Gamefreak is a retarded company when it comes to balancing anything, and I don’t know what hey were smoking when they decided on creating that trait.
Yeah white shadow, as fun as weather teams are to use, I don’t really understand from a gameplay standpoint why the weather abilities are permanent. I mean Sun and Rain are still very much usable on a limited basis using the 5 turn weather moves, but with permanent, passive weather summoners the moves Rain Dance and Sunny Day may as well not even exist
Is Larvesta worth leveling from level 1 until evolves at fuckin 59?
Odd that it evolves so late being part bug in all (bug pokemon usually evolve fast)
Well if you choose to evolve it basically everything you learned up to the point gets wasted. You’ll be gaining massive boost in special atk with nothing but physical moves, so your going to have to do more leveling to get some good special moves. That’s too much leveling to get him right, I’d say nay.
G1 Starmie was scary. It had the defenses to take blows, it was part psychic which at the time plowed through everything, and had recover. Nothing but chansey and maybe snorlax could stop him, alakazam could probably stall war him out but without seismic toss it would lose out in the end.