"Nothing like a good workout!" Paul Combos and Framedata (v2013)

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 12:33am

Framedata

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zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 12:34am

<h2 align=“center”>Combos</h2><h2>Notation:</h2>[000] = Damage [~000] = Cross Art damage depends on team partner (all combos are done with max damage possible [380 Damage with Hugo]) s. = (Far) Standing cl. = Close Standing c. = Crouching j. = Directional Jump nj. = Neutral Jump xx = Cancel move with , = Link ~ = Chain LP/LK/HK/EX etc = Light, Medium, Heavy or EX version respectively CADC = Charge Attack Dash Cancel (ch) = Counter Hit () = After a Switch Cancel that launches the opponent high into the air <h2>[-Meterless-]</h2>Single Hit [170] MK shredder, Launcher [280] Raze, HK Shredder, Launcher [286] MK Shredder, cl.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [356] Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hp xx Smasher [413] MP Sway, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher Close (Punish, after jump in, wake up etc) [329] cl.mp, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, Launcher [349] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, Launcher [359] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, Launcher [348] cl.mp, c.mp xx Raze, cl.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [349] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, Launcher [362] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, s.lp, f.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [372] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, s.lp, f.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [368] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [378] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, cl.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [385] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [383] cl.mp, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [384] cl.mp, c.hp xx HK Shredder, f.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [403] cl.hp, Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [403] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [404] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, c.lp xx MP Mortar, cl.hp xx Smasher [413] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [414] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, c.lp xx MP Mortar, cl.hp xx Smasher Far (whiff punish, footsie etc) [373] c.mk xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [403] s.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher Corner [330] df.hk~P~P, c.mp, c.hp xx Smasher [372] cl.mp, c.mp xx Raze, c.mp, c.mp, c.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [392] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, c.mp, c.mp, c.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [402] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, c.mp, c.mp, c.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher Counter Hit [192] df.hk~P~P [222] f.hp~df.hk~P~P [341] f.mp, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [429] Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [458] far s.hp CADC, cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [465] far s.hp, LP Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Shredder [472] far s.hp CADC, cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher Anti Air (ch) [178] LK Shredder, Launcher [262] LK Shredder, c.hp xx MP Mortar [264] LK Shredder, cl.hp xx Smasher [286] c.hp CADC, cl.hp xx Smasher [294] LK Shredder, s.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [386] c.hp xx MP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher Tag [290] Launcher, HK Shredder, Launcher [313] Launcher, s.lp, f.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [316] Launcher, cl.mp, s.hp xx Smsher [322] Launcher, cl.mp, s.mp, c.mk xx Smasher [343] Launcher, cl.mp, f.mp, s.hp xx Smasher [366] Launcher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [369] Launcher, c.lp xx MP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher [399] Launcher, cl.mp xx MP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher [429] Launcher, cl.hp xx MP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher <h2>[-1 Meter-]</h2>Single Hit [296] EX Shredder, cl.hp xx Smasher [300] EX Sway, j.hk, Launcher [310] EX Sway, HK Shredder, Launcher [376] EX Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [406] EX Sway, LP Mortar, cl.hp xx Smasher [443] MP Sway, c.mp~s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [449] EX Sway, s.hp xx HP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher [450] MP Sway, c.mp~s.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, c.hk xx Smasher Close (Punish, after jump in, wake up etc) [373] cl.mp, c.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, Launcher [413] cl.mp, c.mp~s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [420] cl.mp, c.mp~s.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [443] cl.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [443] cl.hp, c.mp~s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [449] cl.mp, c.hp xx EX Smasher, c.mp xx HP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher [450] cl.hp, c.mp~s.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [456] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, cl.hp xx EX Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher [459] cl.hp, c.mp xx EX Smasher, s.mp xx MP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher Far (whiff punish, footsie etc) [410] c.mk~s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [418] c.mk~s.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [433] s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [443] s.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher Corner [386] EX Sway, HK Shredder, cl.hp xx Smasher [388] cl.mp, c.mp~s.hp xx EX Raze, c.mp, c.mp, c.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [408] cl.mp, c.hp xx EX Raze, c.mp, c.mp, c.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [414] EX Sway, cl.hp CADC c.mp, c.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [418] cl.hp, c.mp xx EX Raze, c.mp, c.mp, c.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [456] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.hp xx EX Mortar, cl.hp xx Smasher Counter Hit [471] s.hp xx EX Sway, LP Mortar, cl.hp xx Smasher [489] s.hp, s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [497] s.hp, s.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [511] s.hp, s.hp xx EX Smasher, s.mp xx HP Mortar, s.hp xx Smasher <h2>[-2 Meter-]</h2>Single Hit [550] MP Sway, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art Close (Punish, after jump in, wake up etc) [520] cl.mp, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [538] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.hp xx HK Shredder, Super Art [540] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [550] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [550] cl.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [559] cl.mp, c.hp xx HK Shredder, c.hp xx MP Mortar, Super Art [574] cl.hp xx HK Shredder, c.hp xx HP Mortar, Super Art [582] cl.hp xx HK Shredder, cl.hp xx MP Mortar, Super Art Far (whiff punish, footsie etc) [387] c.mk~s.hp xx Super Art [413] s.hp xx Super Art [522] c.mk xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [550] s.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art Corner [467] df.hk~P~P, c.mp, c.hp xx Super [476] cl.mp, c.mp xx Raze, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.hp xx Super Art [485] cl.mp, c.mp xx xx Raze, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.hp xx Super Art [496] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.hp xx Super Art [505] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.hp xx Super Art [506] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.hp xx Super Art [515] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, cl.mp, cl.mp, cl.hp xx Smasher [566] cl.mp, c.hp xx HK Shredder, cl.hp xx LP Mortar, Super Art [582] cl.hp xx HK Shredder, cl.hp xx LP Mortar, Super Art Counter Hit [431] df.hk~P~P xx Super Art [441] f.hp~df.hk~P~P xx Super Art [496] f.mp, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [584] Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art Anti Air (ch) [432] LK Shredder, cl.hp xx Super Art [449] LK Shredder, s.mp, s.hp xx Super Art [454] c.hp CADC, cl.hp xx Super Art [501] LK Shredder, c.hp xx MP Mortar, Super Art [541] c.hp xx MP Mortar, s.hp xx Super Art Tag [501] Launcher, cl.hp xx Raze, Super Art [521] Launcher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [527] (), j.hk, HK Shredder, Super Art [546] Launcher, cl.mp xx MP Mortar, cl.hp xx Super Art [558] (*), j.hk, cl.hp xx MP Mortar, Super Art [576] Launcher, cl.hp xx MP Mortar, cl.hp xx Super Art <h2>[-3 Meter-]</h2>Single Hit [464] EX Shredder, cl.hp xx Super Art [531] EX Raze, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Smasher [547] EX Sway, j.hk, HK Shredder, Super Art [561] EX Sway, LP Mortar, cl.hp xx Super Art [577] EX Sway, LP Mortar, HK Shredder, Super Art [596] EX Sway, s.hp xx HP Mortar, s.hp xx Super Art [602] EX Sway, j.hk, s.hp xx HP Mortar, Super Art Close (Punish, after jump in, wake up etc) [551] cl.mp, c.mp xx EX Smasher, s.mp xx MP Mortar, s.hp xx Super Art [555] cl.hp xx Raze, c.hp xx EX Smasher, Super Art [564] cl.mp, c.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [571] cl.mp, c.hp xx EX Smasher, s.mp xx HP Mortar, s.hp xx Super Art [572] cl.mp, c.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [574] cl.mp, c.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [~580] cl.mp, c.hp xx Cross Art [581] cl.hp, c.mp xx EX Smasher, s.mp xx HP Mortar, s.hp xx Super Art [590] cl.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [594] cl.hp xx Raze, cl.hp xx EX Mortar, s.hp xx Super Art [~625] cl.hp xx Cross Art Far (whiff punish, footsie etc) [550] c.mk xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [570] c.mk xx EX Smasher, c.mp xx HP Mortar, cl.hp xx Super Art [580] s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [~595] c.mk xx Cross Art [600] s.hp xx EX Smasher, s.mp xx HP Mortar, s.hp xx Super Art [~625] s.hp xx Cross Art Corner [541] EX Sway, c.hp CADC, c.mp, c.mp,cl.hp xx Super Art [543] EX Sway, cl.hp xx LP Mortar, Super Art [~640] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, c.mp, cl.hp xx Cross Art [~643] cl.mp, c.hp xx Raze, cl.hp xx Cross Art [~653] cl.hp, c.mp xx Raze, cl.hp xx Cross Art Counter Hit [626] s.hp, s.hp xx EX Smasher, HK Shredder, cl.hk xx Super Art [632] s.hp xx EX Sway, LP Mortar, HK Shredder, Super Art [633] s.hp, s.hp xx EX Smasher, s.mp xx MP Mortar, cl.hp xx Super Art [~642] s.hp, s.hp xx Cross Art [~713] Mortar, HK Shredder, Cross Art [ ~734] s.hp, MP Mortar, HK Shredder, Cross Art Anti Air (ch) [557] c.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, Super Art [~608] LK Shredder, cl.hp xx Cross Art [~630] c.hp CADC, cl.hp xx Cross Art Tag [580] Launcher, c.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, Super Art [~636] Launcher, cl.mp, s.hp xx Cross Art [~650] Launcher, HK Shredder, Cross Art <h2>Switch Cancel</h2>You can switch cancel Shredder, Raze, EX Sway, EX Smasher and any groundbounce [f.mp, Mortar]. The best way to switch cancel is to end your combos with a HK Shredder loop: [298+] Launcher, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG [318+] EX Sway, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG [335+] cl.hp xx Raze, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG [349+] cl.hp, HK Shredder, cl.hp xx HK Shredder xx TAG [375+] cl.hp, EX Smasher, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG [385+] cl.hp xx EX Mortar, HK Shredder, HK Shredder xx TAG

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 12:38am

reserved

street11 · January 29, 2013, 3:57am

Nice.

There’s nothing much to say right now; we’ll have to test everything and make changes accordingly.

BTW, I think far st.HP crumples on CH, but only when opponents are standing?

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 5:14am

You’re right. Funny, I never noticed. Then again, I didn’t used Paul’s far s.hp often AND it had to be a counter hit AND the opponent had to be crouched…

Man, I wonder when the patch will hit exactly :< There is SOOOO much to test! Ò_Ó
Work, Work

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 6:59am

Patch has arrived (lol it’s 2:51 am here xD)

-Forward Walk is soooo fast compared to vanilla x)
-c.hp CADC is ridiculous fast.
-dat CH smasher sound xD
-already found a bug: EX Smasher doesn’t counter hit when charged via CADC. Normal counter hit can still occur.

Doopliss · January 29, 2013, 7:23am

No EX charge move does. Otherwise it would always get the CH bonus.

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 7:34am

I mean, you charge it. walk around, then do ex smasher.

so awesome new combos possible now <3

OMG RAZE IS INSANE!!!

Doopliss · January 29, 2013, 7:47am

Yeah, I know. EX charge moves does not get the CH bonus from EX charge. If it did, it would always hit CH when you activated it. Doesn’t matter if it’s the same EX activation or not. Personally I think they could’ve just made the dash rigger the CH bonus instead of the charge move hitting EX, but whatever.

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 7:51am

I don’t mean EX CADC. I mean normal Smasher (hold) Dash. It does for Hugo and Sagat.

street11 · January 29, 2013, 7:59am

OMG XBL wth are you doing

Anyways, ty for the post. I’ll test things out later.

EDIT: I forgot I had a PS3. YES

DLed. Testing stuff now.

BTW, it never CHed for Paul if you did normal charge -> get EX -> dash -> hit with an EX move in the previous version.

Doopliss · January 29, 2013, 8:11am

Huh, you’re right. Error told me it went for everyone, so I assumed it did. Only ever tried it with Paul XD

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 8:25am

I haven’t done corner combos yet x) Nice!

Raze is broken. I love it. For 2 bars he can get some serious damage done now.

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 8:39am

Change 3 - about those with “recovery on hit reduced”:
Well, to be exact, recovery is reduced on all hit, block and whiff. There is one huge thing that is changed tho: blockstun.
For example, cr.HP got its recovery reduced by a huge amount (now has a recovery of 20f instead of 32f… this is kept on block and whiff as well!), but its blockstun got reduced by 12f as well, basically giving it a blockstun of a whopping 7f (this is shorter than a jab! I stand corrected on this one; never thought they would reduced blockstun to be this short). This kept cr.HP on block to be -16 or somewhere around there. I only tested this and MP sway, but I’m pretty sure this was applied to others as well. A bright side is that it’s very hard to react to such a short blockstun and that it stays much safer on whiff.

I had a feeling, since c.hp looked rather long on the recovery side on block. Haven’t digged into it. Good to know. Will try to confirm the exact frame disadvantage tomorrow.

ken123103 · January 29, 2013, 8:49am

OMG PAUL IS SOOO GOOD NOW! lol

Yeah Raze is really strong lol. and it feels like his st.Lp to cr. mk combo has gotten a lot easier! So meterless paul is doing about 300- 350. Overall, paul is too solid!

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 8:59am

I just did a legit CADC combo1!!! x)

Launcher, c.hp CADC, c.mp xx Smasher. there is more possible I guess, but it’s really hard to do.

OMG
[588] j.hp, cl.hp xx Raze, cl.hp xx HK Shredder, Super Art x)

street11 · January 29, 2013, 9:07am

Raze -> st.LP -> cr.HP CADC -> cr.HP xx Smasher. With raw Raze it does the same damage as cl.st.MP -> far st.MP -> cr.MK with the only advantage being meter gain lol

EDIT: just did Raze -> st.LP -> cr.HP CADC -> cl.st.HP xx Smasher. My god that’s difficult :lol:

I was able to do Launcher -> st.LP -> cl.st.HP CADC -> cl.st.HP xx Smasher. Does 313 damage from raw without gems.
and
Launcher -> cr.LP -> cl.st.MP -> take a frame step forward -> f+MP -> far st.HP xx Smahser. Does 334 damage from raw.

Of course, there’s always cl.st.MP -> cl.st.MP -> far st.HP xx PS after launcher, which does 343 damage…

Doopliss · January 29, 2013, 9:10am

You can do Raze, HK Shredder, cl.HK, PS. Is hella easy and does good damage.

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 9:18am

[366] Launcher, HK Shredder, s.hp xx Smasher

lol HK shredder is nuts.

zUkUu · January 29, 2013, 9:22am

Hk Shredder, Launcher xD

Paul has those combos now!!!