I don’t have tip for FA happy Sakura, but I played a friends Sakura one night and found standing jab a pretty effective move to counter her jump ins.
Have any of you guys played any good Fei Long? I have a really hard time against him, normally I’m the one supposed to be rushing, but my friends Fei is the one rushing me One thing I did realise is the J.MK crossup works (like against Sagat/Boxer/etc). Also when the game gets close, keep a distance cos they like to go for HK chicken wing. The startup is really slow and you can ultra it on reaction. On the lines of chicken wing, I hate that move because if he’s close and you duck, it crosses over and hits behind you
Man, I played a FA happy Fei the other night and it was hard as hell. His FA’s come out realllly fast after releasing the charge, I couldn’t get a 2nd jab in to break it, where it would have easily broken another characters attack.
I was messing around earlier in training mode for like 10 mins with vertical J.MK against Zangeif.
It looks like it beat out his lariat out lol, I didn’t jump in with fully with Rufus massive hit box, only jumped in enough so that the leg would reach near to his head.you can quickly follow up with:
J.MK, St.LK, St.MP xx EX-GT.
Can anyone try this out just to confirm if it works properly or not?
I see a possible problem if the j.mk whiffs on a crouching Gief and you’re open for SPD, because I assume you have to time the kick fairly early to get it out over a lariat. Not too many Giefs crouch on jumping opponents so it should still be an effective tactic.
i just played this ryu who was pretty decent and i couldn’t get one dive kick off wat the hell can i do if hes mid screen i get srk’d on jump ins i get my glory kicks focused and i cant even messiah kick idk wat 2 do on this matchup.
glory kick? dive kick? if they’re anti-air focusing it then land > block or land > ex messiah.
srks u have to bait. you need to develop ruf specific footsies to get adept at this. check out the ryu matchup thread for tips on baiting srks. whiffing dive kicks is good.
I was playing a pretty solid Abel the other day and he was EX command grabbing me after dive kicks… they weren’t high or anything, in fact after it happened a few times I made sure it was super deep, hitting his ankles pretty much, and it still happened. Admittedly this was online, but I’m curious if this is actually something that I should be aware of/afraid of in an offline/tournament setting. Every time it happened I could see my st. lk was out, but either hadn’t hit yet or some EX property of his command throw was preventing it from connecting. Am I retarded or what’s up here.
It seems like everyone in G1 plays a bad matchup for me. I’d like some help on Gief/Sagat. I’m not sure whether the first post is outdated. Main questions are on safe dive kicks. I’m not sure if it’s possible to double dive kick against these two, and it seems like even if i do one, I cant follow up with anything besides blocking.
I’m sure theres a lot of info on Sagat already, but it’s 24 pages, maybe we can discuss it again.
I encountered this today as well. Couple of times it would happen when my dive kick hit, I assume my timing was off with the s.lk
On block I didn’t have any idea what to do, I couldn’t dash back in time (again, am I just too slow?), and throw didn’t work. Any tip on what I can do if Abel does command grab after blocking dive kick?
Abel’s Tornado Grab has 5 frames startup even for EX. Unless he has frame advantage, say from putting you in blockstun, you should be able to beat/avoid it with anything faster than that.
It’s worth mentioning that blockstun on the dive kick is 4 frames less (11) than its hitstun (15). So in theory, a dive that would link to s.lk on hit could leave you both in an active state at exactly the same time if blocked. Then if Abel has his EX grab buffered in the reversal window, his move executes on the first frame after recovery while you’re s.lk has to be timed and probably won’t hit the first available frame. If the s.lk is only one frame late, both moves become active at the same time, and the grab wins.
Remember this example was only for dive kicks at the max height to link on hit. Online conditions certainly work in Abel’s favor since he as the reversal window to work with.
I should also admit that I’m not 100% sure of my understanding ot the alleged 10 frame reversal window, but that’s how I see it right now.
Backdash is invincible on the first frame so there shouldn’t be any problem unless you’re trying to dash on reaction and just taking too long.
Backdash probably doesn’t work because it doesn’t cancel your landing recovery.
All jump attacks have 4 frames of recovery on landing. The last 2 are cancellable with certain moves, but I don’t think backdash is one of them. The best bet here, as always, is to Ex Messiah through it. If not, jab Snake Strike should work too.
Also, dunno if it’s just me, but it feels like dive kicks have a larger than normal recovery (something like 6 frames). Haven’t seen that in any official data though.
I hate the recovery on Dive Kick also not enough hit stun for it lol.
Must of played a ken, each low dive kick I did I couldn’t even get out the St,LK gets well annoying at times.
anyone got a general gameplan for fighting against bison?
(ps I saw a great vid the other day of a jp rufus who turtled the shit out of a blanka. made my day. I’ll see if I can find it and post it up. I think that’s the best way to play that match, even tho it’s pretty dry and unfun for both parties : ////
edit: found it, second match here. he even timer scams him at the end of the first round! <3<3<3 lol)
Punished EX / Normal stomps with EX Snake strike or Cr MP & You can Cr.MP his Devils reverse.
I tend to roll in more in this match up just for the fact his St.HK stuffs most jumps, so more rolls an pokes to EX GT.
While up close so he cant hit you out with his St.Hk or MK, rush him down with Dive Kicks and find a opening. If he hasn’t got a Ultra up you can usually bait him out with EX messiah kick follow up fierce kick then do another Messiah. If he try’s to do anything on wake up, try and time the Roll for a counter hit (bare jokes when it connects especially when it ends the match).
His scissor kick pressure can be cut out from St.LK unless he decides he wants to Cr.LK and Rufus would of got beat out.
Also the video lol he didn’t blanka ball much did he rofl.
Are you referring to just the stomp? I used to cr. mp the followup, but now they do this ambiguous followup that usually gets me facing the wrong way and whiffing.
One thing I did realise is the J.MK crossup works (like against Sagat/Boxer/etc). Also when the game gets close, keep a distance cos they like to go for HK chicken wing. The startup is really slow and you can ultra it on reaction. On the lines of chicken wing, I hate that move because if he’s close and you duck, it crosses over and hits behind you 