^^^^…what
That is Tron’s approving dad look. Blake finally gets it with the game lol
lol that thought is old. Blake told me that like right after the game came out lol.
Wait a minute, I thought we were hating on SF4? Marvel is a good game, all foolishness aside:
Phoenix is still going to be broken. Jump > fireball spam was only for laming out wins. The truth is Phoenix’s teleport is unsafe so you could really mash low short and hail mary kill her, which is why people spammed fireballs to begin with, but thats besides the point, you can still Morrigan you way around Phoenix’s nerf by cancelling into flight mode…boom…you have 3 more air actions all over again. As far as giving her 375 health…she was already dead from one B&B anyhow, the name of the game was always “dont get hit” with Phoenix. You arent really supposed to beat Dark Phoenix, you’re supposed to kill her before she gets 5 bars…easier said than done, then again you RARELY see people using snapbacks in this game which is weird because assist characters take massive damage and everyone is so thirsty to do a flashy combo instead of snapping the assist in and basically removing a large chunk of their health.
The thing about Wolverine was that his level 1 X-factor plus speed up lasted long enough that he could kill two incoming characters with a 50/50 mixup into kill. Thats the REAL issue with him and it was fixed, but aside from that he could also cancel his beserker charge that has startup invincibility into speed up which pretty much created the same situation as above, minus the character jumping in from off screen part.
At this point Wolverine is annoying but not as awful as he’s being made out to be, besides, theres going to be a new top tier and people will cry about that so I dunno what the big deal is anyway.
And I’d love nothing more than for someone to teach me how to play Guilty Gear. Unfortunately I have nobody to play with and I dont have a stick for playstation 2.
Yeah the 1 air action nerf was kinda dumb when she has a way around it now. Before mashing 2A wasn’t an option so much before because the balls would combo break you into death, now the balls go away on hit so that’ll be more possible.
I also forgot to mention that the fireballs were never the real issue, it was her traps that stopped you from jumping up back, up and forward. They were way worse that her fireballs. If her M trap didnt cause wallbounce then half the rage woundnt even exist. Not enough time was spent on the game. Im not sure if people even realize she cant teleport behind you in the corner and her homing fireball isnt fullscreen.
But whatever.
With 375k health it makes the threat of snapping her in and killing her with pure chip damage much more real. You could do the same in vanilla but it took usually 3 bars + x factor after the snap (so 4 bars) so hopefully there will be setups that can accomplish this with 3 total bars and x factor or just 3 bars.
This will either kill phoenix early on or force your opponent to pop an early [air]x factor to save her, which is hugely beneficial because if you play your cards right either they decide to fight with lvl 1/2 x factor normal phoenix and you can random hyper her, they are able to tag phoenix out and you can snap her back in for a chip kill once x factor is done, or they snap her out and are able to get dark phoenix out but with no lvl 3 x factor to add to the madness. I’d like to see how quickly her health drops on it’s own with only 375k health and with the right team build you should be able to kill her with a hyper or two even if she blocks when you factor in her self damage.
If she is able to go dark with lvl 3 x factor you still have to deal with the worst part about her which is traps on incoming mixups, and as mentioned she can still spam balls and teleport in fly. But it will be a lot more viable to prevent her from getting to that point in ultimate. I’ll be having an anti phoenix team based exclusively on this concept for counter picking phoenix in ultimate.
The only thing that sucks about chip setups now is she can air x factor, so you can either blow 3+ meters to force her to x factor or just wait till they use x factor and then run the setup. Not sure if they’re fixing it but Zero will be a pretty good counter to her if he still has guaranteed TAC setups since you’ll be able to force a meter drain TAC into a snap back and chip kill her. Alternatively, every phoenix player will mash the direction for the meter drain TAC so you pretty much get free meters on her if you want. If they don’t wanna risk letting you get bars then they have to take the risk of losing phoenix.
Morrigan and Shuma might do good vs her now too since they both have ways to meter drain as well. Probably morrigan moreso because you can combo into astral vision, so there’s probably a way to setup meter drain combos.
If I could win money from hundreds of pot whores in one of the most played fighting games, despite anything else about it, it would be one of my favorites as well.
No, its a Capcom game. If it was something else like SNK or Sega it would have been overlooked easily. People shouldn’t lie to themselves as if they actually play it besides the fact it was made by Capcom. That’s why I’m joining the KOF and VF revolution.
So he’ll be just like you now in 7 years?
You shut your hole! I could understand the SF4 hate, but Catherine? Have you never played Intelligent Qube?! Have you actually played a session of Catherine and learn the dynamics of the game? Now I question your SF4 logic mister.
Oh, you mean the games that were posted on the forums that people including myself attended? Yeah, you gotta read those posts too.
Overall I am starting to become more and more interested with SFxT after looking at it as a fun casual fighting game, not one to play in tournaments. Still very little info on Pandora, but at least I’m starting to see some uses for it. And I still like the idea of gems, but I also like the idea of having the option to turn them off. But as usual these are only self opinions I have of an unfinished game. Wonder what to look for next with this game.
P.S. Has anyone seen the current load times for SFxT? I’m pretty sure they’ll be fixed by the time the game’s finished, but those are loading screens WITHOUT the gems. Not Justice.
Catherine is awesome. But it doesnt need to be at FG tournaments lol.
I’m 99.9% sure the SFxT load times are bad because the game wasnt installed on the HD. They werent that long at Evo. Tekken 6’s load times are HORRENDOUS if you dont install on ps3.
Yeah, but that one FG tournament that had Catherine in it made it so hype. Was the one and only thing that ever made the thought interesting to me. But it is helpful to keep fighting games only within a FG tournament. Although some Catherine side action wouldn’t be bad like Tetris at ReSe.
Forgot about the load times of PS3 vs. 360 in the battle of installed vs. not installed. Valid good point sir.
The air dash nerf is really going to hurt morrigan imo. Since all her dashes puts her in the air…it almost seems like the opponent could just mash out of her dash pressure…just a thought though…
Its not going to hurt Morrigan that much since youre NEVER going to forward airdash anyways lol.
Any Morrigan thats worth something is going to constantly cancel dash into flight then unfly so they dont have to deal with the extremely long dash. Thats what I do anyway.
She’s probably going to be history once I get my hands on Firebrand, tho.
If yall are looking for a fair and honest game with good competition in this state, Tekken ain’t a bad way to go.
I’m gonna keep at this until you guys realize mvc is a child’s game.
Played a few matches of MVC3 at EZ Saturday with Dustin and Nathan and Dustin’s buddy. Actually felt fun. I lost a lot cz I haven’t played for a looong time. But I won a few times too. Gotta get back into it for UMVC3. Probably should have never stopped playing. Just never really had a chance to sit down and hammer out what I was doing wrong and make a good team n stuff. Anyway I’m sure UMVC3 will be played to the Max until 9 months later when MEGA MVC3 comes out with the Mega man DLC pack.:rolleyes:(H VS H mode looks dope!)
SXT will most likely be a lot like smash Bros, no big deal just a game to kick back and play for fun. It wont be a hit at Tourneys but I’m gonna play the hell out of it at home or at gatherings.GEMS BITCHES!!!
I’m playing Catherine on the side cz its cool. Don’t care if its gonna be competitive or not. IMA DO ME.
MBAACC comes out in DEC gonna be playin dat too.:DPlayed some MBAA at EZ on Saturday night,shit was awesome!!! KOF13 and VF5FS will be played on arrival.
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED!!
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YES!!!
Okay, I apparently don’t remember how to quote things. …
Hey what’s good Demarcus? How’s life in Japan? Is the competition there really good? Don’t worry about me, I’m not gonna stop playing what I like. Will told me that. (He also keeps whooping my ass in 3S, but yeah) Do you still upload matches on your youtube channel?
To be honest, I no longer care to be involved in the discussion of which game is better since it doesn’t matter. If a game isn’t aesthetically pleasing to me (good god, why you so ugly mahvel?), or I just really don’t like the way it plays, I just won’t get into it.
Rocket Raccoon looks like an asshole. And he sounds like one. I like it.