No Girls Allowed - eSport organization institutes segregated competition

Yet another “this is the shit Serpent actually believes” thread.

Who’s fault is this?

Evo is a gathering of nearly all the players in the FGC so if women aren’t showing up it’s no one fault but their own. Not to mention why should gender matter in a community intended to bring out the best players…

how many girls play fighting games? seems like not many. I don’t know of any girls who play any of the fighting games locally.

This is why you’re a blithering imbecile: you actually believe this Serpent-level response is sufficient and thoughtful and the stuff of reasonable argument.

Newsflash, dipshit: women aren’t showing up for a variety of reasons, and one of the big ones is that they’re afraid. They see shit like what Aris did and the apologists that rose to defend him, or attacks on the female players who are already in the scene based on nothing more than the fact those players have vaginas, or the general – and very justified – anxiety any woman will feel at going to a gathering filled mostly with dudes, in a world where, based on statistics alone, that greatly increases their chances of bad shit happening to them.

No, it’s not women’s fault they feel this way, because dumbass men have done little to address these concerns. (And I swear to god, if any of you losers cite the “not all men” bullshit I’m going to put this image in every post I make in this thread.) Some segments of the FGC have been very welcoming to women and deserve to be applauded, but SRK and Evo could do more.

No need to reply to this; you’re a waste of oxygen and I already know whatever sad-ass rebuttal you type out won’t be worth one iota of anyone’s time. Just needed to point out why your toxic, vile attitude is wrong, in case anyone reading this is on the fence regarding this issue.

No arguments here. I just wonder why the only effort at encouraging more female players seems to be these patronizing little leagues for them.

IMO just adding more stuff to do at Evo besides competing has probably done more to attract females (and just more people in general).

I enjoy competitive gaming, but I don’t think the scene is very welcoming to women.

On a fundamental level I disagree with gender segregation, but sometimes it’s really hard to be around men. However the solution is not to separate people. While that might make a venue more attractive to certain women, it sets a terrible precedent.

A major problem is a lack of professionalism and proper boundaries. There needs to be strict sexual harassment policies in place like those in most places of employment.

i dont know if its a funny or sad coincidence that you addressed this response to a person who literally threatened to rape a woman at a tournament

Evo definitely needs some sort of sexual harassment policy to be enforced. Tired of Ricky Ortiz raping my eyes with his wardrobe.

hey the girls had a good thing going having their own league
"you mean to tell me your putting me in a smaller bracket with a high chance of winning and gauranteed stream time"
the sponsorship opportunities

After some pressure from sponsors and feedback from us, IeSF changed the rules: http://ie-sf.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=iesf_notice&wr_id=105

TL;DR version: women can now play any game featured in the event.

Sennin threatened to literally rape a woman at a tournament?

Can you point me to where? Reporting it might actually get him banned. From Evo. And I’m a shameless snitch.

Wait, is SenninSRK RikSennin on Twitter?

Coming from the guy who defends tumblr/twitter feminist…I’m not that upset by your insults against me.

Some quick education…statistically speaking the people most likely to be victims of assault,mugging,homicide and just basic violence in general is men so before you come in trying to pass off some poorly researched claim do some fact checking mate…isn’t hard to look up this shit on the department of justice site.

Secondly this is all a load of BS that isn’t substantiated by any REAL evidence. The FGC is not some rape haven where public displays of gang bangs and violence are openly perpetrated against women. Moreover the FGC is a competitive community that has always been male dominated because men are largely more interested in it then women. It isn’t because women are afraid of some omniscient boys club just waiting to pounce on them behind closed doors…and the fact that you would try to bring violence into this or make it seem as if women are legitimately in danger in the FGC just speaks to your dishonesty and desperation. If women aren’t showing up to events its because they don’t want to. Becoming a top player and winning majors takes dedication, money and lots of hard work and time…your just butthurt that a environment built off the principle of meritocracy has barely any women due to your blind worship of women being the absolute perfection of all life in the universe…and if people think I’m exaggerating this claim just reference back to Carlos defending radical feminist sentiments in previous threads.

I figured you would be a fan of the"not all man"meme given it’s ability to completely profile all men as potential “insert whatever here"without having to directly say"I believe all men are like this”…that plausible deniability is strong with your type. Anyways sprite juice brought up the same point before and I just gotta say…WTF!

In other words it’s men’s responsibility to make sure fully cognitive, adult women with full agency get involved in something they clearly don’t really care about…how very paternalistic of you. Let me guess your one of these tumblr people who think a man shouldn’t walk on the same street as a woman at night to reassure her that he isn’t a rapist…GTFO here with this Victorian era disposition towards women. If you really respected women you would just accept the choices they made instead of attempting to parent their choices and make sure they get a a red carpet treatment just for simple participation.

You never have anything credible to say about gender issues…I mean for fucks same you defended female teachers who rape their male students in the bad teachers thread so do I really need to elaborate on how much of a zealot you are regarding these issues. The FGC is not responsible to make sure it accommodates all the needs and wants of women. It’s a place for competitive players to go out and play…not some public charity to reassure women and to address all the problems every women in the world is going through. If men were the minority in the FGC I doubt you would give a shit you would just say"well obviously women want it more"which goes to show the lengths of your fanaticism. Stick to your sandbox in Edmonton mate and leave the adult conversations to the adults…it’s probably because your a 300 pound fatass that you feel these embarrassingly daft arguments are the only way you’ll get any brownie points with women.

Seriously dude it’s not even funny anymore it’s just sad.

The statement of "it’s really hard to be around men"sounds overtly sexist and more of a "them"problem. I could imagine someone saying"it’s really hard to be around black people"and a similar reaction occurring…if women are feeling uncomfortable I don’t see how it’s anyone’s fault but their own. Unless a substantial body of evidence is manifest attesting to the validity of need fears…this just sounds like sexist profiling you would typically on a tumblr feminist blog. This also begs the question of what the solution would be…ban men to make women more comfortable…

Well outside just higher pots I’m not sure what more can be done to allure female competitiors…if you aren’t there for the competition or to spectate then it’s likely little can be done to motivate you to attend IMO.

Ummmm…I literally don’t even know how to respond. You might as well should have just accused me of being a super hero cause I honestly have no idea wtf your talking about.

I think feminist and women should just boycott these events by not attending…oh wait.

I agree. Most men are blithering idiots. I mean look at specs and his unhealthy obsession with me. Imagine him in public when he sees a female? Of course he will latch onto her and creep her out.

But I have a solution that will help you in the meantime.

I used to have a major, major problem in my teens and twenties with women always touching me. My hair a lot of the time, and my arms. Almost every woman I’d talk to would feel up my arms pretty much immediately.

But now I’ve finally solved the problem. First I became old and second I became fat. My arms are normal man sized now which is to mean they lack musculature and I look like the average American now.

So I think, what you need to do is become fat and old.

Of course since you’re female even that won’t work. So I think on top of being old and fat, you must wear a mustache.

For your convenience, I found some for you: http://www.amazon.com/Adhesive-Mustaches-Costume-Party-Disguise/dp/B001GBLMIG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1404372265&sr=8-2&keywords=fake+mustache

They come 12 in a pack so you will have quite the variety. I believe the Scoundrel one would work best. Probably you can pay more money for a better one though. Try to get the kind that you can twirl, and wear a top hat.

I think there are two obvious reasons why big FGC gatherings like EVO aren’t exactly teaming with women…

  1. Fighting games are mostly a male interest. A lot of women simply aren’t interested, and very few interested enough to be serious about them.

  2. Women are generally uncomfortable around awkward introverted guys…which seem to be most gamers. They stare, don’t know how to talk to women cause they have little experience, etc. Throw in bad hygiene/BO and that should scare off the few hardcore female gamers.

put Candy Crush at Evo and all my female friends will show up.

I know a certain man I’d like banned. Weren’t you supposedly banished to the Canadian forums by Mr. Wizard?

But if thousands of dollars are up for grabs and people are after that money for their livelihood, I’d say implementing some standard employment policies shouldn’t be a stretch.

All I’m asking is for all these professional gamers to act…well…professional.

And for the record one of the reasons I stay away from events is because I do feel threatened. Your continued presence here is a bold statement as to how harassment messes are cleaned up in the FGC.

Unsure, but both did call transgender people freaks of nature, so… :coffee: