New Goukens: Ask a question get an answer

Thanks for the answers y’all…

Yeah well when you start putting fake shit into thread that people are looking at to learn someone has to say something.

I asked him what the purpose is of his “set ups” and he was like I get happy off counter hits (O fucking K).

Meanwhile he is saying he is linking far st.mk from cl.st.mk. (for WHAT fucking reason, if you could do that you could do sweep which actually sets up a safe jump, you know, one of those setups he claims to use and kill everyone in the world with but when you watch his video you never see evidence of)

I asked him to explain what he is talking about in case I was missing some magical thing and he is like “you sound so new” so fuck that shit. Guy lies through his teeth and talks like he is Phil Jackson. You ask for video evidence and he is the one guy in the world without some way to video tape.

You’ve seen him play, you ever see him do any of the shit he talks about? You learn absolutely ANYTHING from watching his videos? You see any evidence of these devastating setups he talks about? Ever seen a hit confirm? Didn’t think so.

Sorry Reipin for impeding your quest to learn everything about the character with my baseless fabrications…

Your euphemistic paraphrasing villainizes me oh so perfectly and conveniently… Do I really just attack you every chance I get?

“Im just here to learn and teach others looking for answers…” quoth the Reipin " while cross referencing everything everyone says with a 4th party data set while showcasing my passively-aggresive and sometimes outright argumentative and conflicted persona in a daily ritualized fashion …"

Apology accepted

So I’ve got a question. I know you can LP Hado xx FADC xx Shin sho in the corner and it will connect and count as a combo. But can you do cl.st.MP, cr.HP, LP Hado xx FADC xx Shin Sho? The combo before the FADC puts you at a distance where hado xx fadc xx shin sho is possible but yet I can’t seem to get it to connect. It might be my execution that’s off. Can anyone check this? I’m sure you can do Denjin that way. Does it have less frames of start up?

Try using MP ball in any combo you would use lp ball and FADC. It hits at an angle and therefore hits a frame or two later giving you more leniency. It will go over the head of some people but you’ll be surprised at how many it does not.

I discovered something yesterday, which I never saw before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9sdCKr41zc&feature=channel_video_title
(0:05 secs)
Did The counter get canceled into ultra?
I only mashed counter but somehow managed to get the ultra straight afterwards, I didn’t use FADC-meter and wasn’t even in the corner?!

If my internet at work wasn’t taking a total dump I’d watch your vid but I am assuming you did an armor cancel into Ultra.

It’s old technology and has extremely limited uses given how slow Ultra is.

Correct me if I am wrong but you absorbed a hit with counter and instead of exploding you went into Ultra, yes?

Just watched it, yep, he armor-canceled into U1 against a crossup j. mk

Yeah that correct, he did.

I read in the frame data you linked earlier, that an activated parry ‘floats’ the opponent for 7-14 (or so) which is news to me.

It’s not news to you. It says frame 7 - 21 is the counter activated. The attack floats the opponent (anything can hit the opponent afterwards), and the attack is armor break.

That’s what I thought. I tried to figure a way to make this useful as an offensive option select but nearly anything you would want to use this on recovers before your Ultra becomes active.

For instance, if Ultra was 5 frame startup or something crazy like that, you could do EX counter with the Ultra motion in there and if the counter is set off you would Ultra the person. If the counter is not set off you get thrown or whatever type of punish you normally suffer for missing a counter (as opposed to when you miss an Ultra). It would effectively turn Ultra 1 into a ghetto cammy/fei U2 along with its normal uses.

Unfortunately jump attacks will land long before your Ultra becomes active and lps and lks on your wakeup will also recover before you can Ultra them.

The only place I can think of using this as an option select would be in frame traps, but this would have to be something you knew or were gambling on, you can’t just mash this out. Think Gouken when he does cl.st.mp and then goes for the frame trap with cr.hp. This would absorb the c.hp and then Ultra it. If he went for a throw you’d just get thrown. If he did nothing you’d save your meter, not going flying off into the sunset and just do an empty counter.

Hmmm, now that I think of it, you can also do this after a tech if someone tries to sweep or attack after…

I guess there are some uses, might as well learn it even if the applications are limited. It never hurts to be able to land a raw shin sho.

I misunderstood what float meant in that instance i read it, i understand now

That’s why i said it is not news to you :slight_smile:

Preach

You stay saying the most pretentious sounding bullshit whenever you take an L on this board, most anything you say is devoid of anything of true value. I mean seriously what the fuck is this nonsense you just said? lol @ trying to seem like some sort of solemn figure on the gouken boards, stop fronting like you know your shit, stringing together a bunch of words together in an attempt to make yourself seem aloof doesn’t change the fact that you’re a shitty gouken . Whenever I bump heads with you, you say you want criticism, but whenever you’re called out on your bullshit you can’t even admit you’re wrong. Your wanna be counter hit setups, you’re saying something combos when the frame data and hard evidence says otherwise…your saying sagat can be thrown on u2 startup. Seriously, just stop, take your L. Rather than giving advice in this thread, you should be asking for it.

ughh. Stop trying to sound so sophisticated, it’s pathetic.

That arguements over, please don’t try to re-ignite it.

heres something else you wont believe …

you may not believe it but I also bust rhymes…
guess its crunch time dufus
its true yous the bitch clueless as to how close the fuckin truth is,

My intellect is true as dawn…

for you its doom as the path I’ve drawn…
try droppin 1 bar if you think im wrong…
Fear hath spawned as you play mere fawn…wet with mucus possessing a fool’s wit
clamoring to survive…
Overhead the all seeing I
soon to consume your flesh before your very eyes…
if you could spit worth 2 shits I’d eat you a-fucking-live

Immortal?? …
When your scared to live yet afraid to die?

Takinflight is cool with me, and I enjoy his posts. I rarely try tips people give here, so if some of the info is off I’ve ignored it anyhow…

But man, I hope you don’t actually play like how our friend Reipin described… :wink:

lol

thanks again guys for the info.

Im a hinderance to the commitment to excellence here, clearly.

There are lots of videos on Youtube. Feel free to look. I actually took tips from Taken Flights gouken because 1) He does well on ranked. (I know ranked != tournaments. But i only ever play online) 2) His style is looser than other peoples. This may not necessarily be a good thing but seems more like my general play style. 3) Ive seen him directly in lobbys and appreciated his play.

I watched bullcat, desora, shiine, and others and try to pickup things. Like setups. But alot what I attribute to their wins imho reminds me of watching Flash play. Stuff that requires reactions I’ll never have.