Guilty as charged, I guess. I like SSF4, Third Strike, BlazBlue, VF5 and MvC. Sue me. I’m not saying you should wish hard enough, I’m suggesting that the best course of action is to deal with it and try your best to find ways to keep in touch with your favorite game’s community.
You’re the only one who’s dragging this out, making double posts specifically trying to insult me and all. I’m perfectly happy to talk about this topic with people who can type - I even conceded a point to BlackShinobi. He was right, I was wrong. You, on the other hand, are just being a complete troglodyte. How’s that for “metaphysics”?
MK is a wildcard though, SF hasn’t had to worry about competition from Mortal Kombat in over a decade because all of the mortal kombat games that came out were terrible, it was basically new capcom games competing against MK 2/3.
KOF is in a weird area too, because twelve was really bad but 13 appears to be really good, I don’t think anyone is going to get steamrolled this time.
For the next point you made answer this, are you talking about average joe casual players or average Joe tournament player, because tournament players, have access to SRK and with a newbie forum and specific forums for each game, making heads or tails of any games wouldn’t be hard at all if you really wanted to.
SF4 brought a lot of average joes to SRK, who have mostly been playing SF4, but now they will have the chance to test the waters and the knowledge to not be scrubs at whatever game they choose.
It sort of everyone’s problem, when people say “if you don’t like SF4, then don’t play it” it like they don’t realizes that some of the good things that came to the community because of SF4 were because of people playing it even though they didn’t like it.
Yep. I think it’d be kind of fun to have that rivalry back, to be honest, which is why I’m really not worried about saturation. People will pick one or the other or both, and the pros will be among them.
And that’s a good thing, right? Everyone starts somewhere, lord knows I’m terrible at fighting games compared to the majority of people here, but that doesn’t mean I won’t lean/can’t learn/ etc. not being a scrub at the game of your choosing doesn’t get harder or easier with more games to choose from, it just means you can pick what you like. Granted when you get to the tourney level, it’d be a bit frustrating if there was no one to fight, and that’s an issue. Still, from my perspective - average joe who likes fighting games - the more the better. Variety is good for a genre, and I ultimately think that wins out over making sure there’s a pro scene for every game.
Sure, but at the same time, it’s a game. Even if you’re in it to win, it’s gotta suck to just flat-out not enjoy what you play. Like it or hate it, SF4 sorta revitalized the public interest in tourneys and whatnot, and the fact that there’s more games means that people who don’t like it can choose something else. I dunno, I just don’t see a bunch of fighters being a problem.
if you like variety so much then why did you join this website just recently? there have been a great amount of fighters for you to choose from far before sf4 was ever announced or released
I ain’t putting any more money into tournies that don’t support King of Fighters. And fuck all you sorry ass scrubs who bad mouth it and don’t know shit about the game.
How about you fuck right off, or did you not read the post I made earlier where I listed the games I like? Sorry I joined your super secret club here on SRK, I joined recently because I recently made a group of friends who play in SSF4 and BlazBlue tourneys who have convinced me to start taking part in the community and learning how to play properly. I’ve enjoyed fighting games casually for a long time and have a pretty wide collection. Sorry if you have a problem with that.
Most major tournaments have tournaments for 12-15 games. With another 6 games coming out it’ll put the offical tournament list to about 18-21. Then the TO sort out which games get played based on entries. If 1 game gets 3 entrants and another games 372 which one is going to be run? Exactly, we the players help determine which games get run by going to tournaments and placing our entry fees. Get enough players playing all the games and they’ll likely run them all. Or try their best…
Evo is another beast entirely. Its supposed to be the major international tournament in the USA representing all of the largest fighting games. So what does that mean? It means based on the number of games that they run (6 games last year and for the forseeable future), they look at other tournaments and see which have been the biggest drawers. and then focus their tournament on those 6 games whichever they might be.
If it happens that MvC2 still draws a bigger crowd than MvC3 then its likely that we’ll be seeing MvC2 at evo instead of 3. But that isn’t likely to happen, since other smaller tournaments are going to start holding tournaments for MvC3 and drop MvC2 all together.
In the end it all boils down to, if theres a large enough scene for it then evo will feature it. To show that you have a scene for your game enter it at tournaments. and if there aren’t any local tournaments around you with that game featured then hold your own tournament featuring that game. So its all your fault, not evos fault, not the fault of smaller local/regional tournaments. But yours. Build up hype for your game whatever it may be and see what everyone else does.
that is an assumption on your part. you assume that CvS2, 3s, A3 whatever would all get a better turnout than TvC. Evo asked us what games we wanted and gave us a chance to vote. To be perfectly honest I’m not sure how many entrants TvC got but most likely it got more than the number of votes that people were claiming to wanting to support said games that you listed that you think would be bigger draws.
If I remember right, the poll went MBAA, 3s, MvC2 in terms of votes. The games listed on the poll were those 3 + SC4 and CvS2 I think. I know SC4 was added later because someone came in from the SC community and said hey, we still exist and we’d draw the international numbers too.
Then, after the poll was out and EVO told the BB community that they couldn’t run Continuum Shift since it was on arcade only, MvC2 got in because BB community dropped out. Wait what? Their excuse was “Oh well anyone that voted for 3s wouldn’t show up anyways.”
TvC wasn’t a voted on game but tournaments around the country were cancelled most of the time because no one showed up or it was just 2-5 guys who played within a 50 mile radius. Yet it was a locked in as an official tournament game before the poll was even put up.
I mean thats my plan, if nothing else i’m sure there will be AH3 tournaments in philly next year because if someone isn’t already doing them then i’m doing them at my place. But that’s still upper east coast aka AH1 & 2 territory. I can’t say the same for the rest of the country where it hasn’t had much of a scene, due to low exposure 1st game and a horrible port second game. And for this game at least it would be cool for US to be more competitive by having not all of the player base for the game focused in one area with the rest of the country paying little to no attention.
I just sucks with the timing because all of the games seem good, and it sucks for anyone’s game to lose out due to the competition for time and money when fans of just about every series have waded through some crap waiting for a new good game to come out in their series at some point in the last 5 or so years.
Dude, you didn’t catch my point when I said Melty was at Evo.
We didn’t wait for Evo to let us in as we’ve always been at Evo as part of the BYOC, regularly getting numbers (sometimes larger then certain official games).
People / certain communities just give up for too easily. It took us fucking years to get anywhere.
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