New Female Thread

BTW Jive, I just reread the post, and it sounded a little harsher than I meant it to be. When I get passionate about somethings I tend to forget to be as polite as I should. Thank you for offering your view.

Oh yeah! Speaking of attention whoring, :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley: heres a pic of me doing east coast (or jitterbugging) with one of my swing gals, Heather, at First Fridays in Kansas City.

Certain Fridays of the month in summer, the downtown art galleries open their doors to basically one big block party and art show. (Which reminds me, Im missing the fashion show right now. :frowning: One of my friends was supposed to be in it, I forgot all about it.) They have trollies that take you around to all the shops and galleries if you dont want to walk. Some of my swing dancing peeps got together to check it out and drink free beer and wine. I dont drink wine, its just nasty, but thought it’d be fun, and it really was. They had some local garage bands down there too that werent too bad either. While waiting for the trolly, we’d practice the Dean Collins Shim Sham and dance around, which was pretty much what me and Heather we doing when Mark grabbed my camera. He tried to grab a photo of my doing a dip with her, but it didnt come out. Im leading on the right in the white top and blue sailor skirt, Heather’s in red on the left.

So basically, Im saying if any of ya’ll are in KC sometime, give me a ring and maybe we can go check out some art!

Ryu: Have you any idea that religion is highly overrated? What I am implying is that most people use the example of religion as the basis for their actions. For example, the Catholic church calling homosexuality as an act of evil or the anti-Arab sentiment following 9/11 in which Islam was a religion of war and chaos. How about the fact that most westernized religions have the tendency to excommunicate those who raise questions in regards to god or even those who simply have no religious affiliation whatsoever. Essentially, religion despises acts of deviance.

Misha: are you talking about the crossroads district “first fridays” here in k.c.? i believe the Mattie Rhodes Art Center participates in that as well. anyway I took some beadwork up to the gallery today and actually sold a pair of earrings while I was still there :smiley: woo-hoo! then the woman who bought the earrings asked me if I would teach a beadwork class there this summer. Matt and I still have to hammer out the details but it’ll be this July when I do hold the class. I’ll email you the details if you and your sister would like to come by.

btw, i do remember Hilda the big pin-up girl! she’s one of my faves.

didn’t realize the religious discussion here was getting this DEEP this weekend?! :eek: i’m not even gonna comment on the whole religion argument.

alright everyone please drop the religion argument. kthx

Hey girl! I’ve been looking for you to ask if any of your galleries were participating in the First Fridays - yep, the crossroad one! I really enjoyed it, but I still get irritatted when I see what is essentually high school rate work that even I could do and the artist is pricing it at 600 bucks. 600 BUCKS!?! :eek: Nuh-uh! Not for me! Some of it was really nice and intricate and just lovely. I dont remember all the names of the places we stopped by - we didnt hit all of them - but I dont think I stopped by the Mattie Rhodes one. I would definitly have to come up for any beading classes you’d do, and drag the sister along. She and mom have been working on their looms this summer and mom’s looking for a bigger loom for doing a belt. I showed her how she could sew all her pieces together if she just wanted to use her little loom, but she wants to see the whole thing as it builds in front of her, and I cant say that I dont blame her. If she doesnt find one she likes at a decent price, dad will probably just make her one. Maybe she should come up too. She’s terrified of KC though. Tell me if you get things worked out. If its on a weekend I could probably come, but I’ll be working evenings once this job starts. Oh yeah! I found a job! Its at NCHell but, there are worst things for lower pay to be found. I think its like 8.50 or 8.75. Im going to work as much overtime as possible.

I was just delighted by Hilda! Id never seen her before, so it was really a delight to discover her on this guy’s website. She’s just so damn cute! And sexy!

Im busy making a swing skirt and a renn fest bodice right now, and fixing up some vintage clothes. Im also adding trim to a sissy dress Im making for Ebay. Its gonna be the bomb when Im done with it. I figure since my new job doesnt start till the 23rd, I might as well get all my sewing done in the mean time and try to restudy my Japanese. Then I get to help chrissy make her dance skirt. Hopefully this’ll be a nicely busy summer. Its took bad you dont live closer :frowning: , then you could work with me! The female supervisors always hate me. I get along with the male supervisors pretty well though. I mention some sci-fi book and we get along perfectly and trade books for lunchtime and argue about Asimov. Im not completely happy about going back, I told them all I wasnt ever coming back again. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. :bluu:

Okay, post too long. Im out!

I just posted something in another forum, that relates to women. When I wrote it, something had struck a nerve, and I was pretty pissed off. I don’t want any of you girls here to think that I’m writing about you, because I really don’t know any of you well enough to make a judgement call (well, 99.9% of you anyway), so don’t take this personally. It’s just that every woman I’ve ever known has let me down. Anyway, I just wanted to see what you guys thought about what I had to say. Here goes:

—There are really “truly interesting and wonderful women?” Shit, every woman I’ve ever known was either

  1. Extremely selfish and self-centered
  2. Too busy feeling sorry for herself to do anything else
  3. Too annoying and/or geeky to stand for more than 30 minutes
  4. Too stupid to listen to advice they ASK FOR, doing stupid things and then complaning to you because they went totally against what you told them
  5. A total slut
  6. A total tease, leading you on and then crushing you under their boot when you finally let on that you like her
  7. A total liar
  8. So demanding that she expects you to read her mind like some kind of fucking psychic, and NEVER do anything unless it’s with her (don’t be fooled, if she says you can go do something and she doesn’t mind, she’s LYING and you’ll pay for it later!)
  9. Too full of herself
  10. Just plain fucking crazy.

Every single woman in my life fits one or more of the above, and every single one has let me down.

You want to know why so many guys are so “uninteresting, full of themselves, thinking they are the shit?” BECAUSE WOMEN DEMAND IT. If a guy has no confidence, then that’s no good. Women always whine they want “a nice guy” and there are none of them left. Give me a fucking break! Women WALK ALL OVER nice guys, use them, abuse them, play with their hearts, but in the end they ALWAYS fuck them over (cheat on them, break up with them, tell them “lets just be friends” or you “need tim eapart” but then run off with some other guy, blah blah blah). The fact of the matter is, the women of America have become so fucking selfish, dishonest, and full of themselves, they have no fucking idea what it is they really want from a man. This is why so many guys have become that same “overconfident asshole”…because if we’re nice guys, we get walked all over, and thrown away, because we’re too “boring” or whatever other stupid fucking reason you give. At least if we act like total dicks, we can get laid once in a while.

Damned superficial bitches. If you could make up your fucking minds what you wanted out of men, maybe more guys would try to be like that. But instead, you’re never satisfied, and you go on forums complaining that “all guys are the same overconfident assholes.” Well maybe if you weren’t sleeping with or dating that type of guy, and/or cheating on/turning down that “nice guy” for that asshole stereotype you so loudly proclaim to be bad, so many guys wouldn’t be trying to be like that in the first place. Dumbass!

So yeah, poon is good, video games are good, but women are a fucking waste of time and the #1 cause of bullshit and drama that men don’t need.

Edit: I don’t think I’m some charming conversationalist or some super genius, because I gave up on impressing women and bending over backwards for them. Now I’m just a dick. Can you guess why?—

Again, don’t take the above personally. But you can’t deny that a lot of what I said there has to be true. Any comments?

You know…I could agree with you on a lot of this stuff, but truth be told that the real problem doesn’t lie in the women. In essence, it all comes down to love and the false ideals that we have come to expect over the years. My advice is to just accept it. Love and sex come with bullshit. It’s just something that you’re going to have to come to terms with. If anything…blame our society, which is responsible for such common misconceptions. You know it’s that bad when they start calling Love a game and you have to play to get results from guessing what he/she is thinking to using convenient yet lame and repetitive means of making conversation. It almost seems as if a simple chat has lost its appeal. Sadly, pick-up lines still work. I’m going to have to say that a lot of women are undecisive and unsure of themselves, which can lead to a lot of the fuck ups on their part, but us guys have this tendency to be insensitive and at times, seemingly oblivious to their needs hence the “double standard” theory. You know, both sexes can continue to bitch and moan about how the other is lacking in a certain department (i.e. doesn’t put out, won’t pay attention to me for more than two minutes, etc), but we couldn’t survive without each other. In the end, everyone needs their daily source of dick and pussy (this statement can mean a lot of things other than sex).

Dude, so why did you bring this into this thread? The girls here have nothing to do with your ranting, and you would’ve been better off PMing me with this anger than bringing it in here. Better off keeping it in THAT thread, where it belongs. I’ll address your post when I get the chance, in the OTHER thread.

In the future, if you want our attention, please just post a link to that thread, or tell whoever you want to check it out and address your reply to their post. I have no prob with that. But its really random to come in here and find this.

Punish3r: it wasn’t only just bizarre randomness it was uncalled for to post this in this thread. i can rant about the exact same points when bitching about men (and sometimes i have) in fact you described how the majority of my ex-boyfriends behaved in your rant. but the comment I wanted to make was that your post is true of BOTH sexes, not to mention the fact the at some point in our lives we become attracted to that insanity for some odd reason. the problem also lies in the type of people WE CHOOSE to be with. did you ever question yourself on that aspect? why you consistently chose crazy people to be in love with? this rant of yours swings both ways. Be honest, how many times will you allow yourself to fall in love with the same unstable type of person before you break the pattern of dysfunctional choices. Becoming a mysoginist doesn’t improve your situation either; hate never turns things around for anyone, it just turns you more bitter.

I have few more questions for you: why did you post this rant here? was it to create more drama? to get the female perspective on your bitterness and hate of the female gender? and how many crazy people have you dated or been involved with? and how many sane people have you been with?

Misha: good luck with the job return :smiley: hopefully you’ll have a better crew to work with this summer. oh, I’ve seen a giant loom for beadwork in a mail-order ad in one of my magazines; I’ll mail it to you and you can give it to your mom. Loomwork is probably the only thing I won’t teach in this class; perhaps your mom could help with that technique. Most of the techniques I’ll be demonstrating will be small simple ones for jewelry pieces; we could do a more advanced class later on for larger projects and perhaps you and your mom could help me out with teaching those classes.
About those high prices on the artwork; i know some pieces shouldn’t be priced so high, but the majority of the time the artist doesn’t ask that much for it but the gallery showing the piece does. there’s a 60/40 split between the artist and the gallery’s commision on the sale; so whatever the artist originally priced the work at, the gallery tacked on 40% to it. If you can buy the artwork directly from the artist after the show, or outside of the gallery you can usually get a much better deal on it. I have a problem with under-selling my work most of the time, which my folks always complain about. shrugs If I sell work to my friends or family, I usually under-sell and cut them a deal on the work; but strangers, I have no problem with over-pricing them for. :stuck_out_tongue:

email me the link to those clothes your selling on ebay when you get the chance, esp. the ones your working on now.

I posted that here because it seems to me that for the most part, intelligent women post in this thread, and I was hoping for a female response (or explanation?) for some of the behavior I mentioned. Like I said, don’t take any of it personally, because I was just in a bad mood when I wrote it.

…but can someone here explain to me why EVERY woman I’ve encountered is one or more of the above? Or why women always say they want “nice guys,” but then seem to act otherwise? I’m not just talking about women I’ve been in relationships with, I’m talking about friends, relatives, the (ex)girlfriends of some of my male frineds, and hell even my own mother. I swear to god, every woman I’ve ever known has acted like this, and it’s VERY disheartening. Sometimes I think my standards are just too high, but I’m also not the kind of person to just “settle” for someone. But as it stands now, I don’t think I can ever really trust a woman again, because of the stuff that has happened in my past…

I have the perfect answer for all of this…shit happens

Then my entire life is shit? lol I’d prefer to not believe this, I’m not THAT much of a pessimist, yet.

dude seriously

girls aren’t meant to have such a negetive role in your life
so you’ve been hurt by a few or a lot whatever

whinging that complaining about them will not fix anything
i refuse to let someone have that much influence in my life

Lain

I’m sorry, any regular guy (that ain’t hyped up on there own Testosterone) will tell ya, What comes out of womens mouth about ya hurt. A while ago I could have a guy diss me all day and night and either. A) not care, or B) throw down, It’s differnet when it’s coming from a lady though. Option B goes straight out the window. (from the most part:bluu: ) but for opotion A…It’s harder to just let that in one ear and out the other without think about it our having your feeling hurt just a little. I’ve gotten past this stage but it took me a loooooonnnggg while to. Still it hurts to get dissed by a girl more than a guy. Especially Face to Face, IF I was ever dissed by a female now or ever again. I could just brush it off.

My mom is so shy though, at least in front of groups sometimes. And she just knows the basics of looming, sadly I’m not much better than her. But still beading for jewelry pieces would be interesting. and fun!

I had never known that about gallery workings! Huh! Learning something new everyday! See, YOUR stuff is GOOD! I wouldnt have had half the imagination on some of your projects Ive seen. Some of your stuff I could see selling in the 300-600 dollar range. Not these stripes on canvas some of them were showing. The rich world is not for me shakes head Im too much of a cheapskate. In Mishaland, nothing will ever costs above $50, and $30 is considered expensive. Oh, to be ruler of the world! Or at least my own country.

Sure, once I get more of my sissy stuff and vintage gear up, I’ll post a link. Right now I just have my pinstripe pants for Lindy Hop up for sale.

Or at least that much negative influence.

Punish3r: seriously, you’re complaining about women looking for bad boys, but if those type of women that you listed are the only kinds of women you’ve encountered, wouldnt it seem that you are looking for “bad women”? Like Ang said, and as I replied in my post in the other thread to you, this is a double sided coin. When you look at this story from a female perspective, its the exact same thing being played out, except men are the evil, conniving ones. Truth is, there are just self-absorbed, selfish, stupid PEOPLE out there. This world practically TRAINS us all to be like that, its just a matter of intelligence and good personalities that we all dont turn out that way!

Check out some of the male “I am such a pimp” threads that pop up sometimes here on SRK, and look at the behavior that they claim to commit towards the women in their relationships. Even if its not EXACTLY the behavior you listed, 99.9% of the male behavior can be compared closely to it. All that shit comes down to selfishness and not thinking of the other person, as well, a person. Even the title of that thread, “Girls or Video Games” implies that women are on the same level as some material object, instead of a living, breathing human being. You might as well said, “Humans or Video Games”, and at least that would’ve made more sense without objectifying and belittling women. I dont even bother to point that shit out anymore, because all I get from it is a bunch of morons shouting “feminazi” at me because they CANT see the connection. Its just not worth the effort, and it wont change things. Next week you’ll have a thread up entitled, “Shoelaces or Women”.

You just got to figure out WHY you are meeting these types of people, and then then work to cure yourself of the habit. Some of us get set, as Ang said, on being attracted to them like bad medicine. If thats the case, you gotta learn to shake off that attraction before those type of people ruin you for good.

Dude, a friend told me about what happened at Evolution when Tacochan was with Shady, and you tried to hit on her and she turned you down:lol: I guess she must now fit in to your past of women you thought you could get with but couldnt. Your problem is you shoot way to high for your own self. Face it you’re no ketch, so stop trying to get the ketch of the season than you wont get your feelings hurt.:slight_smile:

Wait a sec…does that mean he’s Darksyde Phil? I don’t think I know what I’m talking about. Just a random thought in my head.

Uuuuh I don’t recall saying one word to Jeanatte at Evolution…because of stupid bs drama thats in the past…you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I just got a new web cam today… first 3 chicks gets a free show from Mr.Funktactic and me :wink:

i need some suggestions for a title for this drawing. for now it’s just titled “sunset frog” or “burnout frog” which is lame but I can’t think of anything else to name it right now; blocked shrugs

“topaz frog” was another idea i was toying around with. hopefully somebody can come up with something better. :smiley: