You might be right about being a side effect of the SFxT engine. IMO though, you only really “zoned” with Poison in vanilla because she generated meter even without the fireball connecting? or CADC to gain meter.
Outside of her pressures with LMT and rekkas, I think Poison really needs meter and her EX moves are not really that great in comparison to the rest of the cast? however they gave her options - a decent overhead with LMT, being able to combo off of EX rekkas (sometimes catching people off guard with the 4th rekka) - but once people learn Poison’s tools I find it extremely difficult break defenses without using a throw or a very risky overhead (elbow).
So if they improve her overhead and throws (as has already been suggested in converting to the SF4 engine) then I think she will be OK. If they giving her the health “nerf” 900 or 950 then I would really like more versatility. Thats one great thing about Rose - she can play different roles, although she may not be an expert in any particular role, the fact that you have that versatility makes her a good character.
The fact that this, in all probability, would be the last update to SF4 - I do not want Capcom to make Poison so bad that there is no chance of playing her. I guess we still have to see other things such as her walk speed, dash speed, focus attack, supers and ultras. I would really like to see Poison get a new move despite her having so many (aeolus edge, KBG, LMT, WoL, Backflip) - I think Ibuki still beats her there though In SFxT she just need that “something” extra to make her better - perhaps in the SF4 engine she will be better — I have always felt she was made for SSF4 instead of SFxT. so perhaps my concerns are unjustified - since most characters in SFxT had ridiculous tools - maybe Poison is finally “home”
I guess we all want our characters to be good. The fact that so many people were hyped to play Poison in SFxT and then those that stayed dropped her very quickly should hopefully alert Capcom — They can’t make the Poisonous Princess terribad in this game, can they? She has already seen low tier status - give her a boost aka Juri from SSF4 to SFxT I actually think Juri was handled quite well in SSF4 - not too high and not too low and she had a cult following as well - Please do the same for Poison I’m not expecting mind numbing game play, but just give her decent tools.
I’m not sure about Poison getting a Wub-Wub Dubstep theme, maybe it will grow on me but the new Announcer is going to take some time getting used to(Super’s Announcer was Boss).
One thing im worried about is the throw followup to LMT, is it still there or did they remove it?(i’ll ask Combofiend) It would be alot better in SFIV due to hard knockdowns means free Oki. I used the follow up more so than alot of other Poison players who just went into a boost combo because I felt that the positioning and potential damage was better.
Does Poison’s Hair seem more “flowy” in that video? or is it just me? seems when her hair touches her body it also splits (perhaps its a graphical glitch LOL).
blush tbh I would like Poison to have a higher “flowiness” factor… provide it doesn’t look to awkward!! LOL I didn’t like the stiff hair she had in SFxT.
OMW it seems her legs are also “reasonably” proportioned compared to her SFxT model - if you pause the video at around 19:40 you can see quite clearly. (where her hair splits on either side of her body). She also doesn’t seem to be this tall tower… her height is quite good in comparison to vipers - Poison towered over all the females in xT. I think Poison must have a great diet plan, coz even her waist seems smaller lol - a Pink-haired Lady Gaga? Maybe they should give her a meat dress as an alternate hehe
edit: I think it also goes to show that these models were not just “copy pastes” as most people suspected and that Capcom actually did put in some effort to porting them. In comparison to her SFxT Model - i prefer how her hair handles so far in USF4. Oh and I would definitely like the new character to be a girl I wouldn’t mind Roxy (they have the model) with different moves to Poison (she doesn’t even need a whip lol). I believe the rumour is that the 5th character might be Sayaka (Akuma’s Wife/ Ryu’s Mother)? I would have liked “Psycho Rose” actually or even “Black Rose” (i.e. corrupted by bison’s psycho powers :P).
If that really is her new theme…I dig it! Jovial, yet slightly sinister, just like homegirl. It certainly wouldn’t be the worst new theme in the SF4 era, and it’s a decent change from another remix of Stage 2 from Final Fight.
I’d be all about that if it wouldn’t make Capcom look kinda lazy.
After another look…it does, and it makes her hair look a lot better! Sure, there’s the obvious clipping issue, but they have plenty of time to work out the little things.
If you really have the means to ask Combofiend about the LMT follow-up, please do. I was wondering the same thing myself. I personally don’t think they will lose it, but some confirmation would be nice.
Pretty much this. Where we have seen some character’s playstyles become very abbreviated in the SFxT system, this is once instance when I believe the USF4 system will support Poison as she was originally envisioned to play. This is a big reason why the idea of a guaranteed second Ultra excites me so much: whatever we do get will be yet another option in her already SF4-friendly set of tools. Guaranteed buffs FTW.
Besides, even if she is a lower tier character, it sure won’t stop me from playing her anyway. It’s either her, Honda, or Blanka.
Yea, more flowiness is good, but at the same time also hard to do it properly. There will always be some clipping issues with flowy hair, so I can understand why they won’t do too much of that.
It looks like they changed the appearance of the characters a bit. Or maybe it’s just because the characters in SSF4 do look better in general than in SFxT.
I would like to see a girl as well as the fifth character.
All characters get at least one new outfit right? Maybe then we’ll see Psycho Rose. =D
I got my PM back from Peter on Capcom-Unity, he said LMT should have it’s follow up in SFIV, look forward to how they tweak her for SFIV he said…thats about it. So basically…wait and see.
We get Fightclubs :tup: , thats about the US equivalent. That and LMT always had hitstun you clearly wasn’t paying attention to that, watch either trailer…we only seen the EX ver. but it clearly has hitstun.
I’m kinda glad Peter’s in charge of the USF4 balancing. Still remember him and Gooey (okay, especially Ryan) being mad salty during SFxT release; “Why play Poison when Rolento’s just better at everything. What’s the point?”