I used to run Nem/Hawkeye/Doom, but I’ve found Taskmaster being better for Nemesis. Forward arrow assist does the same job, but the Nemesis -> Taskmaster DHCs do more damage compared to Hawkeye, and it is pretty easy to DHC from Taskmaster -> Nemesis. As long as you DHC when Task is still throwing arrows, the rockets have enough time to combo in air to air arrows, OTG arrows, etc.
I’ve been messing around with throw -> rocket hyper DHC secret move and continue the combo (god bless that ground bounce), but I’m still new with Taskmaster and haven’t found a post-DHC combo that builds a bar to end it with arrows hyper. Anyone have any ideas?
Nemesis racks up the hitstun decay like crazy, so for Nem combo, rockets, DHC, either you sharp sting, otg arrows+assists, or you could try to go into Vertical arrows DHC and catch them pushing the enemy down, then you have a small window to spidey swing and one arrow into an assist (I do it off of a corner chaotic flame, so the principle is similar). Problem is not all assists can catch people with that specific a timing, and depending on the length of the previous combo either the assist or shield skills could cause a flip. Soft knockdowns with fast startup (lariat, arrow kick) or something like Hawkeye arrows would do the trick for that, or something like rapid slash or cold star would allow a reset into the assist allowing for mixups and possibly unblockables. If you could land an immediate swing+arrow into launcher slam, that would be sick, but it seems a bit too slow.
Edit: Oh, I didn’t see that you meant just off a throw. Oops. If it’s just off a throw+super, there’s gotta be something interesting there. I can start labbing that tomorrow, when all my giant mounds of schoolwork are done.
Just wanted to tell you guys that I found a level up for Frank from a Nemesis reset. Frank can get to level 4 off any Nemesis Tentacle Slam and does 688,100 damage along the way. I’ll record it tomorrow.
Wow, seriously, I just keep rewatching it, this damage is…I mean, what? I don’t even…
So, if that’s the case…while we’re on the subject, and because I am a Nemesis guy, discussion question…who do people think is the best third for Nem/Frank/???, or Nem/???/Frank ?
My vote is Nem/Frank/(in order Drones,Strider,Hawkeye, Akuma) and Nem/(in order Dante, Trish, Vergil, Rocket, maybe Nova, but the team kinda wants Frank second)/Frank
Though I’d probly play Task or Dorm if I ever ran the team, it’s who I know well.
So, I’ve got a question to pose to my fellow Nems. Who would be the best third for Nemesis/Dormammu/??? or Nemesis/???/Dormammu ?
I’m considering team Fuzzykips, Nem/Frank/Dorm, but I’ve got a Frank team, and I’m used to Frank with beam assists. So, maybe, maybe not.
I also play Vergil, and Tasky, and I like them, but for their own reasons, I may not want them with Nem/Dorm (with Vergil, Nemesis has no amazing neutral assists, Tasky is pretty much on every one of my teams, he can take a rest).
I am really liking Nemesis/Frank, shopping cart is great, but still I like having a full-screen horizontal assist for zoning.
Maybe with more experience I’ll learn how to use shopping cart for this purpose more effectively, and this will open up my choices for anchor.
I love doing that Command Grab tag THC level up trick with Frank. Problem (if you can call it that) is it does so much damage! If you have whittled their health a bit, they end up dying before you get the first camera shot off.
Holy shit! This reset!!! I just came up with something slightly ridiculous, same inputs leading either a crossup, an unblockable, or a throw reset, depending on the way they tech. And the kind of reset changes depending on the hiehgt you hit them at. Wow, like, holy damn. I may have to learn Nova…
I may just make a vid on it to explain, but it’s a simple whiffed-normal and centurion rush reset, but the fact that it’s Nemesis leads to some dirty stuff. I’m so glad I can make vids on stuff now. That’ll come eventually, busy days.
Well, in one of Gilgamesh’s Nemesis guids, some great DHC synergy was highlighted when you DHC from BWA to Devil Trigger. Plus that Jam Session assist could really help pressure the opponent, and possibly get you a free combo, though it would be terribly scaled. And I came to the realization today just how useful beam assists can be for Nemesis. And that Disruptor from Magneto is one of the best beams since it comes out really fast. The only problem I see is that you kinda have 3 point characters on one team…Unless you put Magneto on anchor and have him be your main assist. Beam assists+Dante teleports can equal to some tricky mix ups. That’s my opinion anyway…
Mags makes a more than decent anchor, too. Nemesis/Dante/Mags is quite strong. You have to be careful about bounces when it comes to following up, though. Otherwise, go crazy. Oh, and expect to use a lot of resetting if you open up with jam session frequently, Nemesis scales really terribly when confirming off of those kind of assists.
To be honest, I think the best order for lawlTeamKupsofFizz is Nem/Dorm/Frank. Nemmy-san gets ToD’s from Dormington, and Dorm benefits from insta-shopping cart if Nem dies early. Dorm easily sets up Meteors -> Raw tag to level up Frank, and there’s the 3 bar level up method with Nem on point.
However, I am of the opinion that Nem/Dante/Dorm or Nem/Dorm/Dante could be a really good contender… I don’t know exactly how much Dante gets from Nem, but messing around with it has shown me that Nem benefits a lot from a vertical assist. I have to research it a little bit more, but expectations are high thus far.
Haven’t spent TOO much time with it, but I imagine so, yeah. Also, just Theory vs Speculation 3 here, but I THINK you could air Rocket OTG an enemy into Jam Session…
Apologies to my Nova, as well as to the centurion rush assist and my really fun Nova reset with launcher slam, but I gotta try out Nem/Dorm/Strange for a while.
That’s my opinion anyway…