Need help with Toodles Chimp SMD install

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Here’s my situation:

SFIV Femme Fatale TE Stick for 360.

I have it open and am currently looking at the USB wires. The fat black USB cable has 5 smaller cables inside of it that are soldered to the 360 PCB. Everything I’ve found is telling me to pull those out and screw 4 of them into the Chimp SMD terminals. Where does the 5th cable go? Its black and slightly fatter than the other 4.

Also, it looks like I have to run 4 new cables from the Chimp back into the 360 PCB for the USB to work? I had heard that this was a completely solderless way to dual mod, yet here is a step that requires soldering. Did I miss something?

Thanks in advance.

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5th Cable is another ground and its actually useless at this point, so, feel free to either not connect it or just connect it to another ground.

I pulled mine from a chun li stick. I would say it works fine, but I kinda messed up in re-soldering the +5v (see my other thread :slight_smile: )

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If you wanted a completely solderless way, you were supposed to:

  1. Remove the USB head from the USB cable (the one coming from the 360 PCB) and find each of the four smaller wires.
  2. Trim and strip those wires.
  3. Screw them to the correct terminals on the ChImp.
  4. Plug a Type B Male - Type A Male USB cable into the ChImp. The Type A end goes into your PS3 or 360. You may need to drill a larger hole in your stick.
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Okay n00bish question here, since I’m new to modding.

By doing this the way you described, do I still have to connect button and joystick wires from the 360 pcb to the ChimpSMD? And if so, I can do it the solderless way like in the video posted by everyone and their Mom?

Seems kinda elementary, I know, but looking for a fast answer.

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Not sure what video you’re talking about, but you’re going to have to link the signals, be it from the terminal, the pcb itself, or the buttons/stick.

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Ok. Thank you. The video I’m talking about shows the signals linked from the terminal strip to the chimpSMD.

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Any tips for loosening up that red glue they put on the screws? Looks like I goofed and have to do some soldering on the PCB. :frowning:

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Small flat head screwdriver has always worked wonders for me.

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OK guys so i got everything set up and for sum reason my chip wont work on ps3 it works on pc and 360 just fine. when i plug it into ps3 my guide button just blinks on an off

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What kind of stick are you using? And I’m guessing you are using ChImp SMD?

When you plug into PC, go under Control Panel>Printers and other Hardware>Game Controllers

When this menu pops up, what kind of controller does it show you are using?

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yes its a chimp smd

when i plug it into a pc it shows as a street fighter 4 te round 2 (which it is)

also when i plug it into my ps3 it says unknown usb device

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Have you removed the USB wires from the TE PCB and put them to the ChImp SMD? What do the LEDs on the ChImp SMD PCB show?

Also, you may have wired it wrong, and caused the ChImp SMD PCB to think that 1K, 2P, 3K is held down. If the USB cable is in the ChImp, unscrew the wire connected to 1K, and then plug it into your PC. The button will be disconnected, but that will mean it won’t try to brutally force you into xbox 360 mode. Go back into the control panel>…>game controllers, then click the properties, when it shows up ChImp, and make a note of what buttons, if any are being unintentionally held down.

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so i go the chip to work correctly for the most part the only problem im havin now is the the directions on the joystick are messed up on ps3 but not on 360 or pc

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Okay, then, while in a PS3, or PC, push each direction, and then record which direction the PS3 or PC registers.

So, say we have something like this

Pushed UP, returns LEFT
Pushed DOWN, returns RIGHT
Pushed RIGHT, returns UP
Pushed LEFT, returns DOWN.

So, our joystick is obviously a bit wacky.

Unscrew the wires from the ChImp SMD, but don’t unscrew them all at once. Do it one by one.

So, let’s unscrew whatever wire is screwed into UP. Whenever we pushed RIGHT, it came out as UP. So that means that the wire connected to the RIGHT direction is connected in the spot where the wire where UP should go. So, this wire needs to go into the RIGHT position on the ChImp SMD.

To do this, we must unscrew and remove what was in the RIGHT wire position. The direction that caused RIGHT to activate was the DOWN direction, so the wire that is in the RIGHT position was the DOWN wire. So, move the wire in the DOWN position on the ChImp SMD to the RIGHT position.

Repeat as needed.

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ok so i have another problem with the chimpsmd ive recently wired a chimp pcb it works fine so i followed all the same steps i did the first time but there a big problem, the 360 pcb isnt communicating with the chimp when i plug the chimp into a 360 the green light will come on but nothin will respond same with ps3 an pc.

ive already unhooked each cable one by one to see if sumthin was wired wrong but still no response

the only thing i can think of is it possible for the 360 pcb to be bad

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Does this method work for brawl stick as well? I’m getting a Chimp SMD and want it to be completley solderless.

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whats in the lower left of that first picture?

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I expect it would, but it’s a bit . . . excessive.
Cut the USB cable something like 6" from the board (where 6" is a little longer than the distance to where you’ll install the ChimpSMD) and strip the wires on both sides of the cut. The cable that leads to the XBox board gets connected to the XD+ and XD- screw terminals and the cable that leads out of the box gets connected to the OD+ and OD- screw terminals.
If you need more slack you should be able to pull some of the cable that’s outside the stick inside–at least you can on a TE, you should check this on your brawl stick before you start cutting things.

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Thanks for the help. I’ll give it a shot as soon at the PCB arrives

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What about the 5V wire in the inside and outside cable?