Necalli Match-Ups Thread: Devour Strong Souls

even the v trigger mixups? i thought there was a blocking sequence that was good against all that ultradavid found

You’re gonna have to be more specific. There might be a sequence I don’t know about.

But most of (…all?) her bullshit can be interrupted with a three frame normal. So much of her shit is fake.

https://youtu.be/ny08ZCvB9yQ

when he has two karins going, youll see what im talking about

Hi guys,

Need some insight into the chun matchup. please assist.

P.S: Can anyone tell me how to whiff punish or stop Tk hundred kick?(that shit gets abuse so much in ranked)

its 0 on block i believe. so you can’t punish it on block. scroll up for my opinion on the chun mu

DP is basically your only answer; I think a perfectly performed one is +1 on block.

With chun u can grab her out of wake up ex sbk lol. They freak out bad.

No you cant. They may be messing up their reversal. ex sbk is invincible for the first few frames

Just ran long sets vs a player who mains Chun and Karin. Those matchups are borderline unwinnable if the opponent is on point. Necalli can’t do anything vs those characters. Gonna have to pick up another character for those matchups. Probably Bison.

The matchup vs Karin is not as bad as people think. The is to try and walk Karin into the corner. Secure a knockdown, bait the wakeup reversal, punish accordingly.

Yeah, you can’t walk Karin into the corner. All she needs to do is st.mk or sweep all day to keep Necalli out.

Game is a couple of weeks old and you are declaring a matchup unwinnable? C’mon now. A matchup being hard doesn’t make it unwinnable, especially with a character like Necalli, who has so many options.

Karin you have options. With no meter her anti-air sucks. When she tries to counter your StHK with sweeps and forwards, you can jump at her from the midrange. If she tries to counter your jumps with normals, you can divekick and fuck her up. Her reversal options are extremely limited with no meter. You can check her normals from outside her forward range with stLP. You need to get in the range where she can’t forward you at will and the matchup swings in your favour. Gotta take advantage of the damage you can deal.

I don’t have enough Chun experience to comment on that, but I image V-reversal into pressure is an option against all her safe nonsense. Any fireball should be knocked down with Vskill.

Just checked the replay and you were right he said he did a ex sbk but I guess he did ex legs or watever Instead. My bad.

Once chun gets vtrig meter, she’s gonna want to do c.mp into vtrig into bs. Watch for it, backdash whiff punish that c.mp.

I dunno how new this is to anyone, but did you guys know how crappy it is that Chun low-profiles Necalli’s dp?

It’s insane. Even when Chun is just crouching, Necalli’s dp whiffs on her just out of point blank range (even EX dp!). And of all moves hat Chun can use to low profile, the dumbest instance has to be her overhead:

If you try to dp her overhead on reaction, it completely whiffs! Try it out! It has a long startup, so whenever I saw it coming I would react with a dp and by the time it comes out Chun is starting to come down with her leg, and you just fly right through.

Silly.

i don’t think shes the only one ive seen weird situations where others have done it too

I know for sure Chun does and it’s annoying as hell, means she can completely disrespect your wakeup. Haven’t encountered it elsewhere… yet

She can disrespect everything Necalli does, not just his wakeup lol

God it’s a depressing matchup.

Call me a whiner, call me a quitter, I’m already coming up with pocket characters for times when there’s too many Chuns, the match-up is worse than anything I remember from SF4 aside from vanilla Seth vs Zangief or maybe Bison vs Guile.