doubt it. so long as there’s water around , they done.
Don’t you think Tayuya’s genjutsu would be to much for Zabuza to handle?
i thought it had more to do with experimenting on them to give them that curse mode strength. even then, werent they all just pawns from experiments?? they must’ve been the only ones left that had curse mode work on them, but whatevs, i dont know enough about naruto to play this theory game.
it’s funny because you don’t know enough, but you still know more than zeon lol. one failed argument after the other and he still keeps trying…
I disagree with Kurenai being garbage - tier…
You hardly even see Her in Shippuden let alone in battle so You can’t really judge how much She could have or did improve. Plus like Unreal said She is a Genjetsu User who while of course not on the same level as Itachi’s Mangekyo Sharigan would still pose a problem one on one. You can get caught in Genjetsu techniques and not even know it until too late…
Which is what We usually see…
sound 4 with the curse seals? they shit. kimimaro could beat them all by himself. but then again i doubt zabusa would win against kimimaro. nor against gaara, but then again these characters are actually strong. i doubt asuma or kurenai could beat either of them. this is where imo the real contenders come in. youd have to be at least as strong as kakashi or gai to win against either gaara or kimimaro.
zabusa aint there, same for asuma or kurenai. theyre the secondary characters after the secondary characters, cannon fodder and elite cannon fodder. if this was dbz, these characters would be bulma and roshi tier. they cant hang with yamcha and krillin, let alone vegeta or goku.
What exactly are You basing Your Tiers on? Matchups play a big role IMO…
Kurenai could possibly beat someone like Gai IF She was able to capture Him in a strong Genjutsu Technique. But just the same in a hand to hand battle He would have the advantage. Your generalizing the characters too much to say who is weak and who is stronger. Deirda wasn’t really strong at all but his clay bombs was a good counter to Gaara who IMO was the stronger of the two…
fight to the death going all out.
I don’t give a fuck what you say Zabuza wins on character design and personality alone.
Yo. You misspelled Kisame.
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Kisame is neat but Zabuza; imo is cooler than a fucking fish man with no backstory on why he’s a fucking fish man and where Samehada came from.
no he aint, hes just some kid for kisame.
while I would love to know how he ended up part man part shark, I do NOT want a backstory. Backstory=death and I don’t Kisame to job. We could at least learn about Samehada though.
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Deidara was pretty broken. Most characters wouldn’t have a response to him flying in the air and carpet bombing the area. Look at how far he pushed Sasuke when he had an elemental disadvantage.
Also Gaara’s sand worked well against Deidara’s clay, it was able to neutralise his explosions with ease. Deidara simply turned a disadvantage into a strength.
Guess you’re hoping Naruto will just magically wander off and not go kick Kisame’s ass all over the island, then. 
Gaara would have raped Dei, if he didn’t have to protect the village.
Zabuza was an amazing character. Almost nothing has lived up to the standard set in that first arc.
everything bout the first arc was good, cept the fights.
I don’t know someone on gais level should be able to easily break out of any of her genjutsus. I think he’d only get caught like kakashi in itachi level genjutsu.
nah. I know it’s coming. like a terminal disease, you just keep hoping for all you can get past the proverbial six months to live, but in the end you know you’re still gonna die. If Kisame has to take a “L” on the record, Sakura and TenTen had better get curb-stomped into ninja mud pies too is all I’m askin.
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Oh you’re Musolini that explains these posts. Naruto is a kid to Kakashi. How old is Kisame? Go watch DBZ some more.
This.
Being a bad guy = Death. Very few get the privilege of not dying immediately but in this manga their days are numbered.
See Kakuzu and Hidan, both with no backstory at all.