My Japanese buds have lost hope in me

Can somebody please tell me why I got this thread as a result in a search for the book (fiction) thread on GD?

While I’m here, my 2 cents:

First of all, in a SFIV thread one dude whose name I forgot made a good point. We were talking about how Urien is male fanservice (well, I am personally too heterosexual to notice, but somebody else made the point), but in the hands of someone like RX, that doesnt mean anything because Urien is in actual fact just an extension of the player’s ability to decimate their opponent (in other words: they become more “abstract” a phenomenon than the previous “big dude in a small thong” category).

So, in Arcana Heart, in theory, you could take a skilled character and say that the “personality” of the characters really doesnt mean anything: you can sit back and admire the combos and tactics and strategy and execution etc etc etc.

Now I appreciate that people can do that. I’ve occasionally watched AH matches and kinda dug the gameplay. In fact, when I was in Japan I’d watch just about every fighting game out there, including stuff like Battle Fantasia. I like that character who has like 2 or 3 helpers she can summon, making the game look like some kind of MvC2.

But this isnt the whole story. You still have to LOOK at the characters. Before the match starts, and they stand there in their fighting poses, they are personalities and not the abstract bunch of hitboxes they can become later on.

If these characters repel you sufficiently, then you won’t play the game. For example, imagine there is a fighting game made up of characters who are anuses. Nobody would play this game (excluding [insert name of enemy here]).

In my opinion, with regard the whole Japan loli shit, Capcom, as usual, get it just right. Alpha 3 reached saturation point for them, with Sakura and Karin, but it works there because: a) although they look young, lets be honest they look closer to 16 than 8, b) they are also not just fanservice: obviously Sakura is a sort of parody/tribute to Ryu, and Karin is to Sakura as Ken is to Ryu, and c) there are only two of them, they don’t take up the entire cast (isnt part of the fun of having these characters in the first place to be found in seeing them taking on ridiculously powerful male characters and demons etc?!).

Arcana Heart does the opposite. The girls are very, very young look indeed, they are kinda designed solely as fanservice (not sure if there’s actual cameltoe or what? I’m proud to say I havent looked close enough), and there are too goddamn many of them. I draw the line with that Ninja girl. I mean hell, maybe the theme of the game would have worked a bit better if it was slightly SD in art style or something, maybe would have made it a bit cuter and less creepy.

BUT having said all that, the game system does look good so maybe the fans of the game should be applauded for being the real hardcore, able to look beyond the shallow stuff.

Oh and one final point is: another reason Sak and Karin are cooler than the entire cast of AH is that their moves actually look like they might hurt. AH’s animation seems to make all the moves look very wishy-washy, like Sakura’s standing far fierce looks like she can punch, Ah girls look like they punch like a bunch of pussies…

Rant over. Now I need to find that book thread.

Yeah exactly.I don’t think a single person here has gotten on anybody because they play the game, people are too defensive sometimes.

Nope, no back peddling going on here. A lot of people who play these games seem to be into that loli stuff and anime, that’s who the game is marketed to. And when i say anime people, i mean the people who are really serious about their anime like going to cons, cosplay, figurines etc. They eat this stuff up. And how people percieve things do mean a lot, that’s why i’m pretty sure you don’t do many things outside of the social norm. There are consequences.

Exactly. I don’t care who plays it and i don’t have anything against people who play these game. If you like playing games with little girls, then whatever, just be prepared for people to look at you strange. I’m just giving my perspective which a lot of other people seem to have.

Id rather play HnK cause the characters are from a bad assed classic manga.

HnK does have Mamaya lol.

I’ve played AH many a time and I really just cant get into. It really isnt the characters (I like Kamui and Kira a lot cause of their styles) but just the way the game plays doesnt fit my style or preference. I feel that its a little to awkward for me to play with all thats going on in it.

That and I cant stand the music. It ranks up there with GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE!!

Hm. Not sure that’s fair. I appreciate that AH is aimed at a market, but it’s a lot more complex than you’re making it seem there.

For a start, I think there’s a difference between diggin something like Ikki Tousen where the chicks, although dressed in school stuff, are thick and have tits like a 25 year old porn star, and some of those anime where the girls just look like frail little children. And then there’s the question of whether the anime person in question enjoys or is repulsed by hentai.

Uh all I’m saying is it’s complicated, and lumping people into broad categories doesnt help.

What up yo, well I guess I can understand your friends stance on the game. But if they know you they should know you aren’t a pedophile. I love the game’s feel, and the arcana idea is unique, despite the young girls. I was wondering how far you are from Hiroshima though? I think Okayama is pretty close. Well the city Okayama anyway. My wife is from Hiroshima and I usually play at the Joy Sun Mall over there when we visit, you might know about it. Well if you close enough, let’s get on that AH, the game is tight.

As far as judgemental people, I say fck the haters, why should one cater to others opinions anyway, are you living for them? lol

Honestly, the all girl cast was really a turn off for me. The first word to actually cross my mind was “molestation”. The fact that I’m not a big fan of anime didn’t help either. So I never could bring up the nerve to actually play the game.

I mean, it’s like playing with a barbie and your Homies roll up and are like “WTF?! Son, why you playin with a barbie?”

And I respond " Well despite it’s looks, it’s functional purpose is actually relativly close to a G.I Joe…and look at her Kawaii hair! ;D"

I would get sonned so hard…you don’t even know

SMH

Do you even play fighting games or were the threads in GD not getting enough ratings for you to up your post count?

You missed my point. Just because a lot of people share a perception of something does not make it true. Do you understand the leap you make when you say something is true because you perceive it to be?

Saying these games are marketed to otakus and loli freaks is like saying SF is marketed at martial arts fans. Would you say the majority of SF players are huge martial arts enthusiasts?

I would say most SF fans are into martial arts in some sense…be it kung-fu flicks or fighting in general.

I find Kung-fu flicks to be cheesy, and I look down upon fighting in general. Yet I’m still a big fan of SF.

thats great…:confused:

When my friends and I play arcana, we try and mentally block out everything about the game. It’s just too fucking weird.

You people who picked it up BECAUSE of the way the game or the fucking STICK looked just freak me the hell out.

But at the end of the day, as a gamer, are we really that concerned about other people’s thoughts about the games we play?

My whole life, i’ve been just on the good ol’ stance of “fuck it”. People wanna judge, so be it - but I sure as fuck ain’t gonna stop enjoying myself because someone thinks that something I enjoy playing is just for pedophiles, or it’s weird, or some other wacky nonsense.

That’s grade school level bullshit, honestly. I like AH because the character designs are completely different than anything I am used to (although now I am very used to it), but at the end of the day it’s just another game for me to play and enjoy.

I mean I ain’t gonna start killing prostitutes and carjacking niggas because sometimes I wanna sit the fuck down and play some Grand Theft Auto. Just like I ain’t gonna go out and find some 12 year old Japanese ninja in a physical education uniform and rape the shit out of her because she looks like Konoha from Arcana Heart.

I mean that’s on the tier of the Columbine kids shot up the school because they spent their days playing Doom. :looney:

I guess i freak you the hell out.

How dare i play arcana because i like how it looks…

Well, I’m not playing the game because of other peoples thoughts, but more towards my own thoughts.

"Will you let your children play Arcana Heart? "

Hmmm…

I’m saying it’s true because it’s what i’ve seen. I think a lot of the people who play these games are weird, and so do many others. Truth. I guess that’s the price of living in a society with certain values. Walk into any mall and set up a station with 2 people playing AH and 2 others playing 3s. Who do think people will view as odd? I don’t get why people care so much anyways. If you like the game play it.

Then that’s on you!

But I am sure as fuck not going to be ashamed about what I like. If I was ashamed of it, why would I even do it to begin with? I was raised better than that!