MvCI Meta and Tier Discussion

Iron man is just still to stiff he’s got some shit, but is it better than what ultron or nova have,

Nah and the issue that’s haunted him for ages is still there, all his specials are just so slow

Repulsor Ray seems pretty fast, though

>tfw seeing Spider-Man hype in SRK

wew

Starts fast, but look at the recovery, and it jolts him about in the air

He’s just not smooth

I think he’s a sleeper. His repulsor ray is very unique, especially in there air. You’re not limited to just up or down, you can alternate which direction you want to move with light or heavy and you have over a second to use to the next input. Both his air dash and ground dash are fast, he has fantastic OTG pick up, his hypers are very meh but he has some great space control,

Guys, I am really struggling to figure out who I want to use. Epecially because one of the he two characters is guaranteed to be swapped out for BP when he releases.

Quick questions

  1. Who is most balanced and easiest to play in terms of execution between zero, marvel and nova?

  2. Which of the three goes best with Dorm?

  3. Should I play Dorm on point with them or as anchor?

Thanks

I would play Marvel she has a hit grab which gives free spell charges. Shes also pretty strong and I dont belive he execution is too difficult.

I dont think that’s entirely true. Some things can and should be rebalanced as soon as possible. Some things need a wait and se approach as well, I will admit, but to say that a game cant be rebalanced agter half a year seems iffy.

Everything needs a wait and see approach. We barely know anything about this game. The more people learn the better well be to handle some of the things were seeing. Once everyone adapts then we shall see.

Iron mans air repulsor rekkas are definitely what he was designed around. He has huge space control with easy mode hit confirms. Tag cancelling makes the recovery on them irrelevant. Still feels kinda honest but he is able to compete for now

I’d rather not sit around for a year that every knows is either garbage or busted when it can be fixed.
Like do people honestly believe that there is some hidden tech to turn X and Chris into the next dormammu/Ungtron? Simple shit like dorms projectiles or carpet fucking off when he gets caught or Xs staying when he gets caught.

Guns going through supers, overheads that shouldn’t be overheads and that recent untechable air grab will probably go after Battle for the Stones. Taunt wall can stay.

that shitty dante overhead needs to be patched right fucking now…

But Mahvel?

I think it’s entirely true, just look at Sentinel in U3, he had potentially the highest health in the game but got nerfed to hell before the game was even released because nobody knew what X Factor or a merry christmas was.

Two years is what I’d say, you need at least one Major tournament (Evo) to see what the starting level is and then another year to see how that’s changed, if it didn’t change then maybe rebalancing is needed, if the game constantly changes then that’s a good thing and people will continue to innovate and adapt to new strategies.

Imo we should still be playing vanilla MvC3, because all the answers we needed to shut down Morrigan/Doom were removed in U3, such as Wesker’s snipe, Wolverine’s Beserker Slash, Phoenix’s runaway, and so forth. I’d argue that if we continued playing vanilla it would be more balanced today that what Ultimate is now.

Two years is WAY too long, especially for stuff that is clearly not intended.
For actual balance issues, I agree that longer is better, but I think a year would be the absolute max for a first pass.

Of course it’s not. Dreamcast MvC2 was never patched besides in the botched Xbox port and the HD rerelease, and it’s still one of the greatest fighting games of all time, an unintended accident that shaped a whole genre and series of games.

Ultimately these games don’t need patched, there is enough content and enough freedom for people to find new ground breaking things, like Moridoom for example. Do you wish they held on a little bit longer to find that one? A year or two maybe? Then we wouldn’t have had to endure the bullet hell as bad as we did.

Marvel is supposed to be insanely strong, but you’re supposed to use wit, intelligence and execution to overcome obstacles, not have Capcom remove the obstacles for you. A mentality only old school players will probably understand.

I am an NRS player

I say PATCH IT INTO THE GROUND

but yeah fuck obvious bugs like all the litany of things that can become overheads despite being coded to be a high if you block a projectile, or dante stinger becoming OH if canceled into from a cr.lk. Patch it all no fucking mercy!!!

Lets calm down with the balance changes before we have another Sentinel on our hands.
I agree with bug fixes such as Stinger becoming an overhead for no reason but not an actual balance patch. We still don’t know who the next Wesker is and I don’t like the idea of something getting nerfed when it turns out people just aren’t learning how to deal with a good but certainly not top tier character.

I don’t think the characters need to be worried about nerfs so much.

Especially when the reality stone has probably caused the only real heavy salt I’ve seen for this game. We have people dropping matches in real life because of reality LOL

This is the game series where Hulk and Chun Li went from tournament unviable characters to Evo winning characters.