I dont see ultron getting worse (considering the cast stays the same; no idea what dlc chars will bring to the meta). I see Iron Man getting better;
He just seems like the fairest of the top tiers. He will always be as good as the player.
Ryu and Cap should be at least mid-level just by having meterless invincible reversals, and the tag mechanic allows you to continue your offense after said reversals.
Spider-Man is top 10 material for sure, he has to be. Heās got a full screen trijump for fucks sake, just double tap pp+p itās probably one of the fasted overheads in the game it feels almost instant. Even his full screen web swing is faster than Ultronās trijump and I thought that was fast. Time or Power Spider-Man would be insane.
With that avatar I find your ability to be objective on the matter suspect!
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Nice, I will be borrowing those combos! Unlike other characters his air dash goes full screen and carries more momentum when cancelled at the right time, and the hit boxes on his normals are huge, even j.lp crosses up. At certain distances itās completely ambiguous, after messing around for an hour even I still wasnāt sure what side it would land on. He hasnāt got the best setups in the game, but surely heās the best pixie and has the best rushdown in the game.
He is quite possibly the Magneto of MvCi.
Woah can we relax on the spidey hype a little? Being mobile with a good offense doesnt make a character magneto. Magneto did basically whatever he wanted to and was better at it than 95% of the cast. Something to keep in mind is how strong a characters neutral. Spidey looks good but I wonder how good. Should be interesting to see how he develops. Seems like he has a lot of stuff going for him.
What has to be remembered is that weāre not playing UMvC3. Magneto was known for his speed, mobility, agility and incredibly fast normals. Spider-Man might lack disruptor and hyper grav, but thatās what your stone and your team partner are for, the rules are much different this time around. His normals are insanely fast, and like I just mentioned he has a full screen overhead as fast as any other trijump in the game. Spidy doesnāt have the neutral, but his partner will and when the screen is full of crap heāll be running circles around people to open them up. In a game where lockdown is so strong, speed and mobility are two very handy tools to combat or even compliment the current meta.
Spidey is hype. Heās the face of Marvel
He looks good so far. Looks a bit more self sufficient and his mix up looks even better. His runaway seems toned a bit, but itās better to be dangerous up close in this game anyway
Spidey is probably the best heās ever been.
But letās not go crazy here. He aināt no Magneto.
I think dorm and ultron are here to stay at the top.
Iron man has a lot of comboability with his normals and range, but Nova might just do everything better. I just cant see a marvel game where someone with flight combos and a 8-way airdash ends up āfalling offā.
I also love his smart mines
At least for me Magneto represented a character that did everything above average. Mix ups Mobility Neutral etc etc etc. He really didnāt lack much. So spidey may have impressive mobility and a mix up but I think he needs to hit on more aspects of this game in order to be magneto like.
Lock down is a very big part of this game as is neutral. So when we look at the strongest characters they should have these strengths and not only thay abuse the game mechanics. Once again though this is my measure of what makes a character good in this game.
So if we look at spider man he has the mobility and the ability to open people up. How well does spidey play with others though? How strong is his neutral? Spider-Man looks to be a pretty threatening character. This game magneto? Meh I donāt see it.
Started messing around with firebrand in training mode. He seems pretty interesting.
I like spiderman so heāll always be top tier in my heart.
After seeing dorm and jedah autopilot for a week, I tried out some anti lockdown on wake up moves. Hopefully this stuff wasnāt too obvious.
Vs thorns: Zero, strange and Spencer can push block into super. zero, cap am, ryu can pushblock into dp, lariat works, so does haggar HK if thorns are the only thing hitting meaty. Couldnāt get spider man, thanos, chun to reversal. Iām sure other f1 invinc supers and armor works too.
bionic arm, zero whirlwind super, strange counter super, etc will beat out pinwheel.
Ms marvel armor walks through all of the above, even jedahās 214p capture.
Everybody can push block into a storm.
Dante/Frank will eventually move up once people find tech. We already know that the team can level Frank up to level 5 without meter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0r-2JpbWjc
No, it makes him MSH Spider-Man (who was ranked above Magnus in that game).
Checking out rocket raccoonā¦ wow heās got some shit.
Really fast overhead with copter cancels, has a REALLY nice space stone pattern in jhk xx space stone xx tag (rockets jhk is a projectile grenade so you do the grenade then wiff cancel it into space to pull them into the grenade then tag cancel the space gem and now you are in with advantage).
Heās got some fast air mobility and stuff. Basically his jhp is an airdash that requires no executionā¦ cancel it into L groot for a quick airdash attack.
Heās got some shit.
Gotta figure out the hitstun tiers. I mentioned it before but I managed to get even closer to the 4999/5001 damage mark on both sides with ultron, and the exact second you hit 5001 damage, there is exactly nothing you can do that will combo into his beam super I can get 4998 and combo into beam super fine, get 5003 canāt it canāt connect anymore.
Obviously things different per character per super etc. Like at high damage hitstun scaling hulks f+lp can let you combo into things neither st.lp or st.lk will, so testing testing testing needed.