MvCI Meta and Tier Discussion

Characters like Dante and Zero, with their archetypes, will be on top considering the amount of options they have.
With X in the game, I don’t see why they would allow Zero to keep his buster.

Maybe, but I don’t really know how high that would move him. I think he’s useful, but I’m not sure how good that actually makes him.

That’s basically how I feel about him. Pretty sure MM is really bad in this game. I actually feel like Arthur is a really good character. He has a lot of stuff going for him this time around.

Fchamp’s early top ten

What am I missing about Haggar? I love the character but I can’t do anything with him. I saw RayRay say he was really good now Fchamp lists him top ten. Apparently he’s more than just lariat

I feel the same. I don’t think Haggar is bad at all, and Lariat is crazy good with Active Switch. I’m just not seeing what puts him in top 10.
Other than that I think Champ’s list is pretty solid.

It’s not just Lariat, but the overall nerfing of chip and the potential to score HBDs with a strategic Lariat (especially when Soul Storm has people on both sides) gives Haggar more opportunities to blow people up than ever before. Not to mention he still has pipe, which forces a lot of characters to respect him at mid range.
Space Stone is what puts Haggar in top 10. The Surge mitigates one of his main weaknesses, and cutting off movement/assists is basically a death sentence vs him. And even if Space became the meta and appeared on every team, Haggar’s defensive tools can shut down careless offense quickly. His only fault is dealing with Reality Stone and hard zoning, but that’s what partners are for.

Those that think Dante was a bad point character in 3 just didn’t dig into the character. He had 1 touch kills but they required damage engines like dorm or strange. Funny enough those same characters are really fucking good for him in this game. I think Dante just intimidates people because he isn’t some pickup and body people kinda character. You have to invest time in learning him to get good enough to use him. Most people that play marvel games (at least in 3) want low execution high yield characters. That reflects on the laziness of the community tho more than anything.

Not sure if it was laziness but in mvc3 simpke stuff were able to ToD so there wasn’t much meaning in learning more advanced stuff. MvC3 wasn’t a forgiving game and dropped combos lead to death. The lack of ToDs in this game is refreshing.

Champs list is interesting not sure why firebrand is in his top 10.

I don’t see Jedah going anywhere but up.

LOL. He literally listed 29/30 characters.
Apparently everyone forgets about Firebrand.

Dante could work on point but he wasn’t ideal for start of match when too many of the top tier points could mash 4 and 5 frame buttons with assist right in his face was just not optimal for tourneys.

Less stuff floods the screen at the start so gives him better room

Also I figured Frank May Cry would be a more popular team

Frank is such an enigma in this game, just like in Ultimate.

Like, he COULD be secret top tier. But he could just as easily be one of the worst in the game.

If people can get some good solo Frank combos with Infinity Storm, he will be an absolute beast. Time, Reality, and maybe Soul are all good for bumping up that combo counter to build levels. Do his normals still chip like a motherfucker?

The badness gets badder. New overhead glitch

I think Frank will be strong. The tag system lets him level up much more easily. He’s just an oddball character so there aren’t many people playing him yet.

I’m having a lot of trouble trying to find a solid partner for Spidey. (Picking up Spidey himself is a heavy task lol)
I tried Jedah, but he just isn’t my cup of tea as a character.
Trying out Thor now. As I feel that Thor is a lot better in Infinite than he was in Ultimate. But I can’t really seem to find any proper synergy between these two.
From what I seen of her, Monster Waifu Hunter would make a good partner for him. Her UNGA sword moves have a lot of blockstun, allowing for nice tags and Spidey to get in, and she also has great lockdown moves in her dual blades slashes/supers and her spread shot and air arrow shot.

Why isn’t she in the base game? ;_;

Gotta make dat money

The Dante thing was revealed during SCR weekend, but I didn’t know it appied to other characters. That will probably be a big deal until we get a handle on how it works. Then it will just become the player’s responsibility to know when to stand block.