As for his moves, I could see them using something like this:
qcf+Atk: SHield Slash
dp+Atk: Stars N’ Stripes
qcb+Atk: CHarging Star
rdp+AtK:Cartwheel
qcf+2Atk: Final Justice
dp+2Atk: Hyper Stars N Stripes
qcb+2AtK: Hyper Charging Star
This is assuming he keeps his old moveset. It’s not guaranteed.
As for how good he is, that will depend on a number of factors: How good he is on his own (Cap has actually been pretty shitty in all the Vs. games; he hasn’t been good at all since MSH), how much universal mobility is present and how much of a “fill the screen with crap” fest the game is overall. If they got MSH Cap back, or something close to it, but stuck in a game that has MvC2 levels of garbage-filling and the same options he had in MvC2, he will still suck, though not as much. But again, this is assuming MvC3 Cap bears any resemblance at all to previous Cap’s, so this speculation could all be moot.
Given the GI article, it pretty much has to be Steve rather than Barnes, though they screwed up a bit when they said he was a founding Avenger. Perhaps Bucky fans will be given that suit as a alt, if they ever get around to that sort of thing. (Then again, Cap’s new Super Solider uniform is pretty good…though that’s way too recent)
Anyway, I’m pretty psyched Captain America’s back (though we already knew he was coming back). Hoping he’ll be more like his Marvel Super Heroes iteration.
re: buckie vs steve
I’ld want Ultimate’s Cap it’s classic Stevo with a gun.
Owed Logan with a machine gun [see smart cap]
Went toe to toe with Hulk [see street cred]
Beat down a giant wife-beater [see good writers]
:bluu: I think they will stick with classic brand and MSH moves set…
might revamp shield slash for rebounding goodness and limited add anti-beam effects for his shield :tup:
note: I’ld love to see USAgent in a following iteration with a photon shield, at least a differing projectile base, and differing base stats [hopefully more than the shoto bros]
Ew Ult Cap…He’s like a bad parody of 616’s. Then again, most of the Ultimate Universe has become that at this point, but I digress.
USAGent would be best as just a alt color or something. He doesn’t even use that shield anymore, or at least he didn’t at the time he got his arm and leg chopped off in MA. He was just using a imatation of Cap’s shielf at that point.
Whether or not they know who Bucky is is one thing, but I think the general public knows Steve died. It was ALL over the news. It got way more coverage than Batman’s not-death.
It’s true he wasn’t on the team when it first formed, but the rest of the Avengers did make him an honorary founding member later since he joined so early and was pretty much their first true leader, which might be what GI meant (or at least I hope that’s what they meant and didn’t get the history wrong).
I’m not a big fan of the Ultimate universe in general, Cap or otherwise, so I’m glad they’re sticking with the 616 interpretations. Unless they wanna put in Ultimate Galactus (Gah Lak Tus) - planet-sized bug thing with thousands of attack drones and psychic insanity waves. Awesome.
An old moveset does’nt automatically condem a character to low tier because it depends on other variables as well such as damage, hit priority ect. Remember the game is being built from the ground up on a new engine a MvC2 Stars and Stripes may do different things in MvC3, Things can change significantly depending on what they are planning.
I hope that the super charging star gets buffed: Less start up and should go farther. It should be able to go through any projectile and hit the user everytime; hitting iron man out of his proton cannon and similar beams would be so sweet. This would also help its comboability.
Normal charging star needs less end lag too. If its blocked youre in for a punish
As for shield slash, it should beat normal projectiles and bounce off the ground/wall/ceiling, and always come back to cap, hitting whoevers in the way
Lets have America’s hero be GOOD this time!
**RE:**As for shield slash, it should beat normal projectiles and bounce off the ground/wall/ceiling, and always come back to cap, hitting whoevers in the way
I like the idea of Cap’s properties changing depending on his possession of the shield. Kind of an extension of his MSH Stars n Stripes AA getting SFA Sagat luv when he dropped his shield but can’t mash through FBs.
so here are some thoughts…
w/ shield
-most/all FB chip dmg is recoverable
-specials block FBs [even startup of shield slash] taking chip dmg and possibly being canceled
-shield slash can be delayed [gouken style] allowing for a ricochet 2nd hit attempt on return/rebound when fully charged
w/o shield
-takes more dmg but some normals n specials deal more dmg out.
-specials n supers have limited/no invincibility frames.
-shield[less] slash’s cmd input becomes his fwd [abel style] cartwheel.
^^^ Yeah man, Cap America should be a completly anti projectile type character. As stated earlier, he should also take no chip from projectiles with his shield. Make him a very good counterpick to any projectile user, and give him solid rushdown. Take THAT Cyclops, Iron Man, Magneto, Cable, Storm, Cap Commando…and the rest!
it’s classic Stevo with a gun.
