MvC3: Dead Like Me: The Hsien-Ko Team Disscussion thread

I quite like using Deadpool’s Katana-rama actually. Gets me another set of sj.MMHS and allows me to push them out of the corner so can use Cheireitou instead of Tenraiha :3

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I don’t like playing Hsien on point without Morrigan as anchor. In fact the only time I play without Morrigan as anchor is when Hsien is 3rd. Dark Harmonizer is the only way (besides Bloom) that Hsien can gain meter during Rimoukon, and Rimoukon is the only sound way to deal with derp as a Hsien-ko point. Trish and Morrigan also have great synergy, both fliers, both keepaway/rushdown, and Trish can always use the extra meter.

Dark Harmonizer calls can also give Hsien 90% of her meter back during Rimoukon, if you’re aggressive with Hsien’s jump cancels and Senpu-bu Morri is easy to cover.

I found doom to work well with hsien-ko,doom’s missile assist helps me get close for a lockdown since I play a rushdown style hsien-ko,and with morrigan’s meter building assist I dont really have to worry about not having meter to end my combo

I’ve been trying to run Team Darkstalkers. Using Felicia (Rolling Buckler)/Ko (pendulum)/Morrigan (Soul Fist)

I attack and build meter with Felicia until I got two, then I DHC to Ko and activate rimoukon, then raw tag in Morrigan. I really didn’t know if I should use Felicia’s sand splash OTG or not and I don’t know if Soul Fist is a good choice either. What do you guys think/any general advice for playing team darkstalkers?

I cant run team darkstalkers anymore lol its hard but I did make Hsien-ko,Spencer,Taskmaster work pretty well :slight_smile:

It’s odd how a lot of people eventually end up using that team o_o

Spencer on point would probably work out better because you can make a safe DHC into Gold Armor/get momentum right off the bat if you’re confident in your Spencer, but that’s just my opinion and how I prefer it.

yeah thats what I starting doing,I kinda found this team to work because taskmaster’s arrow assist is good for her getting in only problem is I kinda suck with spencer…so I am looking at afew other characters as well if not then I will stick it out with spencer

I find Spencer on point works great with Hsien-Ko second. DHC into gold armor makes bionic arm safe on block, and on hit sets you up for an easy launch, TAC setup. And with the gold armor on, even if they guess right, they have to guard against the mixup when they land.

Hsien-Ko DHCs well into spencer too. End a combo with an OTG Chiterou, DHC to Bio arm, and the arm and the rest of the blades will hit.

You can do Chireitou on mid screen, hard tag into Spencer, then do Bionic Maneuvers and it catches them. From that, you can DHC back to Hsien-Ko again or someone else depending what position Spencer was. His Bionic Maneuvers hypers also resets the ground bounce, so if you ever do his Bionic Bomber attack if that’s what it’s called, make sure to do Bionic Maneuvers eventually to reset the ground bounce and make the DHC to Tenraiha possible. Yet another thing for combo extension is that you call can Hsien-Ko’s pendulum assist on the corner while Spencer does his Bionic Bomber attack and the pendulum will have them juggled just enough to add in his qcf S. You might be able to do something into his qcf H grapple for the unscaled damage from the pendulum juggle but I didn’t have success on there with my short period of time of me using Spencer.

Nice, thanks for the synergy tips.

I like Spencer’s slant shot assist for Hsien-Ko resets. You can connect slant shot after the air combo from a jump cancelled edoga, then teleport behind when you hit the ground. Or even just command grab

I don’t think they’re high enough to do :qcf::h: during the juggle.

Also, I have way too many avatar-worthy Lei-Lei pictures. Expect this to change about five more times today.

Yea, that assist is excellent for letting Hsien-Ko do resets. You could also use it to snatch someone out of the air which is a big help for Hsien-Ko.

I think you can do a St.S. Though, I couldn’t get the tk grapple H to hit. It barely misses. You might be able to just do a grapple H instead of a St.S, but I’m only saying that since I never attempted that.

Speaking of avatars, there’s one I’ve found I really like, but I’m gonna let this one rock for a bit more. Also, it kind of annoys me that there’s way too much Hsien-ko stuffs while Haggar barely has anything. It’s cool Hsien-Ko getting some respect, but the mayor should get some too. /jealous

Guys, i have come up to the conclusion that Hsien-ko > Hawkeye in the matchup. Have been playing a very good Hawkeye + Frank cartwheel assist player, and my Hsien-ko + Thor M.Spark assist always gives me the edge in the match.

Hmm. How so? She can reflect his arrows, but he can Gimlet at any moment if you let your guard down/set up a Gong.

Yeah, he can gimlet, assuming that the hawkeye player has bar. Hsien-ko can take the gimlet and survive, and the neutral game will still be in her favor. The gongs reflect Hawkeye normal projectiles, and punish every single one of his approaches (wavedashing, slide, jump specials). This is a zoning fight that Hawkeye can’t win. Hsien-ko dash-teleport can go through the gimlet, and can also be cancelled into blocking (pressing down) so as long as there is a gong out and some kind of support assist she has relatively safe mobility.

If Hawkeye doesn’t have bar all Hsien-ko has to do is gong, jump > gong, spam anki-hou, s.H, Edoga and her assists. If hawkeye has 1 bar HK can: jump > gong and call beam assist, why? because If hawkeye throws a gimlet, there will be a trade of -250k for Hsien-ko vs -100k - 1 bar for Hawkeye. Hawkeye without bar is like a 7-3 in HK favor in my opinion. It’s very dangerous if Hawkeye has two bars though because he can always DHC, HK should use Rimoukon and rushdown if the DHC posibilities of Hawkeye are too strong (Chaotic flame, Nova beam, Vishanti, Shinku hadoken, etc).

Interesting take on the matchup. A good lockdown assist (which is very important for her anyway) is needed for her to gain the advantage then, which is good because Hawkeyes sometimes manage to hit me through Gongs and dashes with Gimlet (online?). Are there any assists that you’ve encountered that might pose a problem for this strategy?

Can’t Hawkeye just do his kamikaze and balalaika arrows which are the upwards ones to stop Hsien-Ko from spamming gongs and what not? At least from my perspective, I have to get close to Hawkeye to prevent him from abusing those two moves. At about mid range, I feel the most comfortable there where Hsien-Ko’s normals can out reach Hawkeye’s plus she can do the gongs more safely there knowing that he won’t be using the upwards arrows much.

^ 0 bar Hawkeye will get punished with anki hou+beam projectile if he goes for the anti-air arrows, Hsien-ko will just block in time. Yeah mid range is the perfect range, s.H or Edoga into Sempu bu + assist can open up Hawkeye.

I think Hawkeye BFs are Vergil (rapid slash), Doom (missiles), Akuma with tatsu and Vajra, out of those i think the missiles and the tatsu might give Hsien-ko more trouble.

Hey so how would this team work out?

Hsien Ko Senpu

Vergil Radpid Slash

Morrigan Harmonizer

Morrigan is there for meter Abusing for Rimoukon Spiral swords and Devil Trigger and Hsien’s Asist works wonders with Hsien.

I kind of like it… Any idea or suggestions?

Sounds fine to me.

Currently I’m working with the following team:

Hsien-Ko (Henkyo Ki)
Hawkeye (Quick Shot Greyhound)
Hulk (Anti-Air Gamma Charge)

Initially Ghost Rider was supposed to be main character since I based the assist of the other two characters in the spots that GR felt more vulnerable. I then decided to try the same assists with Hsien-Ko, and it’s been pretty good so far.