MvC3: Claws and a Bra. X-23 Thread

Yup, pretty much spot on. Still, it’s nice to have another option that other people have to be wary about.

Also it makes mixups on incoming characters hella scary when timed right.

that is some great tech, thanks for posting. now when you get someone to block Akuma assist you get a multiple overhead mixup with 214H, into a fuzzy guard high/low?!? sweeeeet. I had always wondered how to get more mileage out of j.M j.2H xx 236L because it is one of X-23’s strongest combo starters, but it only worked on Hulk & Sentinel if the other guy was in downback.

now though, you should be able to do a j.M j.H when you are falling from a 214H. from normal jump you might be going too fast to get the H out in time, but from a mirage hop that should make the fuzzy guard setup easier because the H has more blockstun on it.

np.

TBH It kinda went against my gut because I like “knowing that thing that nobody else knows” but it’s whatever, I’ve stolen plenty of other people’s stuff so I guess it’s only fair :p.

The thing with j.H is, is that Laura’s hurt/hitbox is a little bigger, so the you are spaced a little further away from your opponent after landing, making the overhead harder from a spacing standpoint (at least in my opinion). I think j.M has the right balance of distance/hitstun to make it the go-to choice. If you have setups that make the j.H better by all means share, I am very interested =).

I should try out that fuzzy guard stuff.

Off topic, but I haven’t touched MVC3 in ages. I’m waiting on UMVC3, 'cause right now, I can’t get to locals/tournaments, friends are busy, I only really get to play vs human competition like, maybe once every month lol, and I’m really behind with X-23. Hopefully, UMVC3’s online doesn’t suck dick like MVC3’s did.

Meh…it’ll just suck less dick. Least there’s spectator mode so you can actually have a social interaction with people. Good thing 3S OE is coming out. I have a local scene to play UMVC3 with any way.

Does anybody know what they’re changing about X-23 in UMvC3?

I’m praying online’s at least SF4 playable lol. Spectator mode’ll help things. I’d kill for online like 3S OE’s getting for UMVC3, but oh well.

StrandedBigMac: AFAIK, Crescent Scythe can be special cancelled into the air. There’s some other tweaks that I can’t remember, but one of them was Neck Slicer apparently getting nerfed in frame advantage, though not sure.

Meh I the more I get used to her MFC game the less I find myself using neck slicer any way. It’s only really good if you cover it with an assist or use the regular one at max possible range while they’re on the ground. It’s pretty immune to advance gaurd to keep you in with a dash after but her mirage feint assist game is way more important.

Hope theres new combos with crescent scythe to talons. She really needs a more damaging reliable bnb.

It seems that’s the way they’re changing quite a few of the characters. They’re giving Felicia an air delta kick that causes ground bounces so you can do Wolvie style shit instead of having to MMH on the ground and in the air at specific timings just to get a reliable damage bnb. I can get 600+K damage off my standard bnb into Weapon X prime but I can’t really get the meter build I want because I’m always utilizing the MFC which kills the hit scaling for meter build jump loops. Outside of confirming off her stubby c.L’s into jump loops or calling assists off of them her damage isn’t really streamlined unfortunately.

yea I wouldn’t count on UMvC3 netcode being good either it’ll probably be more of the same things we are seeing in vanilla. For X23, online is just unplayable. I’m sure everybody is aware of this, but it’ll suck even more if it’s more of the same in ultimate.

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Sadly, I have to agree. I doubt that they’ve conveniently fixed all the online issues they’ were struggling before with in just 3 months lol.

And yeah, I don’t use Neck Slicer much either anymore and run the wavedashing/MFC game. Hoping the new chars have some good assists for X-23(I’d bet money Rocket Raccoon’s gonna have a sick assist for her, but we’ll see.)

In terms of reliable combos, I use 10star’s max damage loop, but what pisses me off is that I go to someone else’s house and it’s not a CRT/has a laggy monitor lol, so I drop that combo 80% of the time and have to go with an easier loop, or an easy MFC combo. Doesn’t help that the PS3 version has extra delay either(or so I heard.)

I rarely have trouble playing online with X-23. Sure, there are some laggers every now and then, but I play WAY better online than I do offline (when I do play offline, it’s on a PS3 and a HD monitor instead of on an Xbox with a SDTV and my own stick). I get the feeling there’s a big gap between PSN and XBL, as well as a gap between America and Europe (in terms of lag, not just literally).
But in any case, I drop more combos offline than I do online.

I’ve played exactly 22 games of online MvC3… decided it was a complete waste of time and haven’t fired it up since. Not being able to do combos is one thing, but not being able to block and tech properly because there is so much input delay is something else entirely. I’m so glad our local scene has grown so much since SF4 came out. I can always find people to play offline with, every day of the week.

in other news, Doctor Strange looks pretty sick. I’m really hoping him & X-23 get along well, I want to have a team where 2 out of 3 of the characters are ones I am excited to play… right now my team is just one char I was psyched to play (x-23) plus two picks from the tier list. I was on the fence about MvC3 until I saw Seth Killian playing X-23, and then all at once I decided I was going to play Marvel just so I could play as her… Strange is the same deal.

he has one assist where he comes out and shoots three donuts that hang in the air briefly before they shoot towards the other opponent. It looks quick, but slow enough you should be able to do a full combo and then OTG into those fireballs to land a DP super. But what I’m really hoping he has as an assist - he has one projectile that is like a miniature stalking flare. That would be awesome (maybe too awesome) as an assist.

Isn’t her fully-charged ankle slice going to have a less startup?

I really wish to see what things I can find out of X23/Nemesis. I figure Nemesis is going to have a bulk load of health and slow mobility, but I still want to get him alongside X23 for some good setups. I already feel Nemesis is going to be Week 2 Sentinel come early days in Ultimate, he already has major dmg output and even with the XF nerf his gonna be a killing machine in it.

I’m hoping one of the unrevealed characters has a good lockdown assist, maybe Nova’s powerset would lend itself to one. I guess Strange’s Eye of Agamotto or Ghost Rider’s Hellfire assists could work for some things. I was really hoping I could pair Laura up with Hawkeye but the more I see and hear of him and his assists the more I think he just won’t be a great fit with her. Damn shame.

To me Hawkeye looks like he’ll be ideal assist territory for X23. Just like Task if he has any assist that shoots arrows forward quickly that’s free left rights for X-23 and assist to cover her M and H talon attacks.

I’m slow as fuck, I only realised today that you can call assists during X-23’s wall jump because it’s not a super jump. I’m an idiot. :frowning:

You’re right, I didn’t clarify it but my mindset was that I didn’t think he’d fit on my personal team, since I plan to keep X and Cap together and hopefully replace Dormammu with a new character. Together they do look like a good pair, but I don’t know that I can make him work with Cap still on the team since I already use Shield Slash as my primary projectile assist.