MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

I think you misunderstood me.
I wasn’t saying that I felt like Wesker and Magneto should be on the same team as Phoenix, I was saying that I think either character does well paired with her, especially Wesker. I was just giving out some counterpoints to what you said when you replied to the gent who feels that Mag/Wesk/Phoenix is one of the strongest teams.

Can we talk about Wolverine more and why people think he’s the best?

He just seems like a lacking version of Wesker.

Luckily Wesker does have some anti-picks. Ammy gives him trouble for obvious reasons. She is too low to the ground for the gun and you have adjust your combos to use them on Ammy. Wolverine and Zero can also give Wesker trouble for similar reasons.

Bad thing is, all of those counter picks Wesker can kill in one combo >_<

i agree with samurai saying wesker is no where near the best. he is easily top 5 though. tbh, i feel dante is the best character in this game. i would say phoenix, but she’s very random by design. dante is just cracked out from the moment the screen says fight. the thing is, it just takes time to reach that level with dante. he definitely is obtainable by human hands. he don’t need to do retarded shit like viper players.

I agree. Dante is a lot harder to counter pick and play against. Wesker just hits like a truck and that really catches peoples attention.

The trouble for Wesker against those characters is actually hitting the wretches :stuck_out_tongue:

He’s fine if he can manage to get the hit or get lucky with a counter either his hyper or his special move but that is much easier said than done.

Viper really isnt as hard to use as people make it seem though. Sure she is still one of the toughest, but she really isn’t all that bad. She is a lot of fun to use though.

I agree about Dante #1

yea, and the fact wesker pretty easy to control is a plus too. which is why you see him and wolverine in a lot of teams. hell, just look at my sig lol

To do intermediate Viper stuff is decently easy, to do the things that make her broken isn’t.

What other character has a ToD that builds gauge on block?

I just don’t think there is a clear number one at this stage. Each character that could be number one has different tools.

Wolverine: High damage, quick speed, average health, mix-up and hit confirm machine.
Wesker: High Damage, teleport, command grab, above average health, reset machine, average zoning tools.
Dante: Zoning tools, long range on normals, great anti-air, combo machine, teleport, buffer hyper,
Ammy: awkward hit box, zonning tools, rush down machine, full screen hyper, slow down hyper, awesome airdash and overhead
Zero: Pressure game, mix ups, zoning tools, GREAT level 3,

That is a rough outline of my top 5.

Maverick8, you forgot that Wolverine also has a teleport!

True, true. I meant it by mix ups. It isn’t a TRUE teleport I guess, like Zero’s.

No, it is a true teleport. Zero is the only person in the game who is vulnerable during his “teleport” and can’t pass through projectiles. Both Wolverine and Wesker’s teleports can, but have vulnerability during start-up and recovery. Dante will just teleport above and behind you, and Phoenix can teleport in front of, behind or above you, but she can’t cross you up if you’re in the corner.

man forget the obvious good characters. let’s debate about the less used people. so am i the only guy here who feels jill is pretty shitty?

That’s right, that’s right. I guess I was using the definition of “true teleport” incorrectly. Thank you.

I feel that way too. The only thing going for her is that her mixup potential is even better than Wesker’s but it is harder to get going. She feels awkward to use as well. Her health feels too low considering the fact she has to get in close and a lot of her normals have pretty crappy range outside of her slide.

She has potential as a point rush down character. She needs specific assist to cover her weak ability to get in. Once the DHC Glitch is patched out (Which I am eagerly hoping for) she will lose a lot of potential though.

in that case captain america also has a teleport

it just happens to be a terrible one. =(

i wish each attack button gave 3 distances and that L+S didn’t pass through your opponent.

Yea if you are trying to compete quick in this game Wolverine and Wesker are great characters. Pretty straigh forward gameplans and very easy to execute.

Wesker will always be top tier. If he is top now he will be top forever, unless Capcom decides to nerf him. He has too many great strengths at a basic level, and the advanced stuff he can do is down right confusing. His teleport with gun shots increases his mind game potential and because of that Wesker will be top tier forever.