I was playing phonix on point yesterday with dante/wesker. She is fucking insanely good if you just don’t play like a ho. It was mostly an experiment to see how well she could fare actually being played as a real character and by what I see she does phenomenal work. Best keepaway, amazing normals, with jam session and s.edge she could switch up zoning and rushing effortlessly. I’m not gonna say I didn’t get blown up since I was playing a pretty great dante (who I think its far and away her worst matchup) but i did take out at least a character 90% of the time and even pulled off a few OCV’s. I think have an actual phoenix can only help since she is by herself great. As long as you don’t get hit then she is cash lol. I think this will pay off since I believe she is wolves and zeros worst matchup.
Story of mvc 2
oh and does anyone have any PHX v MODOK experience? The matchup seems interesting (what with MDK’s barrier/ mines fucking up her projectiles) would he force an unsafe teleport or could she just successfully run all game?
She’s impossible to hit with She-Hulk unless I get you into blockstring->Command Grab.
Hilarious, I just wrote an article about the doom / task comparison.
Yeah, sad to say, Task is more or less just a better Doom in most regards.
Doom definitely has a better mix up game than Task once he gets inside if you’re just talking about their point abilities but both have trouble getting on the inside without assits. Task still kinda wins in the priority department though because he has literally some of the best normals in the game. He has a 6 frame c.M that reaches half way across the screen when buffered after a dash and his air normals reach about half the screen also. Arrows do big chip and are relatively safe to throw around so you can get free chip a lot of the time even though you’re not landing a hit. Of course if you somehow land a hit with Tasky it’s like going on 7 to 800k with a super at the end. Task also gives Phoenix a reason to stop pressing buttons so that helps too.
Doom’s beam is still great because it takes up an entire horizontal line across the screen and he stays behind you which allows you to control pretty much the whole horizontal area of the screen. This is really good with Wesker because it allows Wesker to do a completely safe L or H teleport and since the beam will put them in a hit or block stun unless they’re like super jumping you can easily create 50/50’s at certain ranges and get combos.
indeed all ten versions of the arrow while on point are mighty nice. Vertical helps for chip and Horizontal has helped me get in plenty with Haggar.
Taskmaster is amazing.
lol pay no attention to his comments, Strangevision is the troll of this board.
I’d say that Dante is one of the few people that can make phoenix think twice about jumping in the top corner of the screen and spam H. TK shots. Problem is that if your facing a good phoenix, she will lay a L trap to cover her back, also Tk shots move phoenix back so if you teleport, she may actually end up behind you. Dante also, as far as i’m aware, can’t control horizontal space in the air that well. So all he has in the match up is a predictable teleport and jam session if she is above you… still better than most.
I’ve been working on this for awhile, for what it’s worth I’m one of the better players in the upper midwest in Marvel v Capcom 3 (Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois) so it isn’t like I don’t know anything.
5/10/2011 Keranata?s Marvel vs Capcom 3 Tier List
Based on my perceived Total Character Strength (TCS) from watching, playing and a little of theory-ing
TCS consists of
Strength (ability on point, ability to control the game, combination of speed, damage, mixup potential)
Assist Quality (ability as an assist, do they have a beam or another good assist, is their assist better than another that is similar)
Utility (are they a DHC glitch starter or finisher, do they bring something unique to a team that few others can provide)
Sheer Power (intimidation factor, Sentinel in X-Factor, Ryu or Akuma beams)
**S **
- Zero
- Magneto
A+ - Phoenix
- Amaterasu
- Dante
A - X-23
- Wolverine
A- - Dormammu
- Spider-Man
- She Hulk
- Wesker
B+ - Storm
**B ** - Sentinel
- Dr. Doom
- Akuma
- Chris
- Tron Bonne
B- - Spencer
- Trish
- C. Viper
- Taskmaster
C + - Iron Man
- MODOK
- Felicia
C - Jill
- Viewtiful Joe
**C- ** - Chun Li
- Hulk
- Super-Skrull
D+ - Hsien Ko
D - Arthur
D- - Shuma Gorath
- Deadpool
E - Haggar
- Ryu
- Morrigan
**F ** - Captain America
- Thor
weird things in that list… but besides pointing them out which would be fruitless… why do you put spiderman so high? do tell, do tell.
-dime
Wesker lower than Spider-man.
X-23 over Wolverine?
I admit, her ability to start the DHC trick is valuable, but doesn’t Wolverine’s standalone power compensate?
Sorry, but Wesker 11 and Taskmaster 21? Kinda hurtin’ your credibility there
thats a shitty tier list
ryu isnt “E”
Phoenix stomps Modok into the ground. Stay in the air, shoot tracking, L TK Shot, then M TK Shot and teleport right over his head, there’s nothing he can do. Or go right behind him.
Yeah I discussed this with a friend. He told me to stop reading from it because dude doesn’t know what he is talking about.
zero above magneto and dante? enough said.
that list is carazy
he must be trolling us momo. don’t read into too hard.
Wesker dont got spider webz.
wesker cant take hiz own pix with a camera either
Alright, thread over.
Everyone go home.
[details=Spoiler]Stupid Dumb Tier:
Amaterasu
Dante
Phoenix
Magneto
Wesker
Wolverine
Really Good Tier:
Akuma
C. Viper
Doctor Doom
Dormammu
Sentinel
She-Hulk
Spencer
Storm
Taskmaster
Tron
X-23
Zero
Pretty Good Tier:
Deadpool
Felicia
Haggar
Ironman
Morrigan
Ryu
Shuma-Gorath
Spiderman
Thor
Trish
Good Tier:
Chris
Hulk
Jill
Super-Skrull
Is this Chracter Actually in the Game? Tier:
Chun-Li
Secretly Godlike Tier:
M.O.D.O.K.
Viewtiful Joe
AMERICA Tier:
Captain America
WHY Tier:
Arthur
Hsien-Ko[/details]