MvC3: 2/3rds: The Morrigan Team Building Thread

This my team build post from the Felicia page. I’ve used Team Darkstalkers since day one and have never looked back.

Hsien-Ko(a)/Felicia(a)/Morrigan(y)

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1. Who characters and teams will you use (in order of selection)?

Hsien-Ko - Point
Felicia - Assist 1
Morrigan - Assist 2

Shout outs to Capcom for including my 3 favorite Darkstalkers characters in this game!

2. What type of game-play strategy are you pursuing with this team? (Explain)

The gameplan with starting Hsien-Ko on point is to set the pace of the match. Hsien-Ko has a fantastic zoning game and can shut out / frustrate / confuse the hell out of most other characters in the game. Between her gongs, item tosses, long range and unusual normals and her pendulum swing, she can surprise a lot of people who aren’t used to playing against her. On top of that, Felicia’s Rolling Buckler makes for a fantastic assist with Hsien-Ko. The combination of a quick, low assist paired with the long range of Hsien-Ko’s jumping heavy results in an unblockable situation for unsuspecting characters. Morrigan’s Dark Harmonizer assist also allows Hsien-Ko to build meter incredibly fast, all the while shutting out the opponent. Worst case scenario is that they’ll chuck a random beam at you, but after that, you’re free to build as many bars as you want with little risk.

Once I’ve built at least two bars though, I have Hsien-Ko activate her gold armor super and DHC Felicia in with Kitty Helper. Here’s where the REAL fun begins. Felicia’s speed, combined with her high/low mix-ups, the Kitty Helper bringing doom from above, Hsien-Ko’s unstoppable swings and Morrigan providing meter whenever possible, things get absolutely chaotic really fast. With all of the attacks flying around on the screen, you get plenty of opportunities for Felicia to open up her opponent and plenty of meter to play around with.

In the event that Felicia and Hsien-Ko get taken down, Morrigan steps in to take charge. She makes for an incredible anchor, with her vast array of options and mixups. The speed boost she gets from X-Factor 3 is just enough to overwhelm the opponent but keep her controllable by the player, and she gets a decent boost in power as well. Plus, there’s always Astral Vision and Soul Fist… but I try not to simply lean on that. Morrigan is just too good to sit back and throw fireballs all day. Though I have won plenty a match by just sitting back and throwing fireballs all day. :stuck_out_tongue:

3. What advantages does your point (first selected) character have?

Confusion/frustration factor, long range normals, gong reflecting or nullifying nearly every projectile in the game. Can shut out most opponents with gong walls, allowing for incredibly safe meter building with Morrigan’s assist. Ball super can combo into Blade super. Gold armor super makes her an unstoppable force. Teleport dash provides brief invulnerability and will cross up opponents. High damage command throw which most don’t expect is available. Tends to be rage-inducing for most opponents.

What disadvantages does your point character have?

Slow speed, hitstun deterioration and damage scaling is absurd, resulting in an inability to dish out damage on par with the rest of the cast without the use of multiple super bars. Does not generate meter during gold armor mode. Low health means she can be easily blown up. Reckless use of her as an assist will get her killed REALLY fast.

What maneuverability options does your point character have?

Teleport dash, pendulum swing moves her across the screen fast and turns her into a big ball of damage in the process.

How will your assists aid your point character?

Felicia’s Rolling Buckler creates unblockable situations easily with Hsien-Ko’s long reaching jumping normals. Morrigan’s Dark Harmonizer feeds meter constantly to Hsien-Ko and can be made mostly safe with a wall of gongs reflectors.

4. What advantages does your secondary character have?

Speed, speed, speed. This, along with her Kitty Helper, allow Felicia to open up her opponent like no one else. The Kitty Helper does a great job in interrupting supers as well, often saving Felicia’s tail when she’s about to eat a random beam. Her Toy Touch OTG can be comboed out of with normals or her Dancing Flash super. Can charge her own meter with a command move which can be super canceled out of. Is adorable!

What disadvantages does your secondary character have?

Low health, damage per hit is low, hitstun deterioration is absurd. Projectile being a charge move results in accidental discharge sometimes. Absolutely no air options other than normals and air throws - she’s the only character in the game who lacks a special that can be performed in the air. Can be zoned quite easily.

What maneuverability options does your secondary character have?

Naturally high speed and a great dash. Delta Kick and Rolling Buckler both propel her forward, and Delta Kick is amazingly fast. Her Cat Crawl is a short range teleportish move that provides her with invulnerability while she travels and will cross up opponents, but she is exposed during start up and recovery.

How will your assists aid your secondary character?

Hsien-Ko’s pendulum swing helps open up opponents and provides a great way for Felicia to shake off rush-happy players. It also sets up a great opportunity to abuse her command grab, and can help her extend her combos. Morrigan’s Dark Harmonizer feeds her meter, and Felicia needs as much as she can since her normal combos don’t deal big damage on their own.

5. What advantages does your last character have?

Morrigan is simply amazing, in that she can pretty much do it all and does it well. First and foremost, everything about her becomes twice as good with her power-up super, Astral Vision. It is also one of the few power-up supers that allow her to continue to build meter while it’s activated. Her fireball game is decent, and she can rain holy hell with fireball / fly / fireball / unfly setups. She has a long reaching, high damaging command grab. She is the only character in the game with a level 3 super that can be performed in the air. Her jumping S is a multi-hitter, which can open up armored opponents and generates enough hitstun to easily combo after landing it. She has some of the best, if not the best air options in the game.

Last but not least, Shadow Servant(level 1 Super) and Darkness Illusion(level 3 Super) both enjoy hefty amounts of invulnerability frames, allowing you to counter supers performed outside of combos quite easily.

What disadvantages does your secondary character have?

Less than average health, damage output isn’t stellar without the healthy consumption of meter. Has a slow walk speed and cannot perform a ground dash - dashing on the ground causes her to take to the air.

What maneuverability options does your last character have?

Her aerial dashes help her get around the screen very quickly. Her upwards jumping air dash propels her up and forward, allowing for easy cross-ups. She can fly.

How will your assists aid your last character?

Felicia’s Rolling Buckler helps with her high/low mix-up game and can create unblockable situations. Hsien-Ko is Hsien-Ko.

6. What kind of Delayed Hyper Combo opportunities do you think your team will have?

It depends on the order.

Felicia - Dancing Flash
Hsien-Ko - Ball Drop
Morrigan - Finishing Shower

This is the ideal setup. Open with Dancing Flash and after the 9th hit, which knocks the opponent up slightly, DHC into Hsien-Ko’s Ball Drop super. Almost immediately after activating it, DHC into Morrigan’s Finishing Shower. This will cause the balls to rain down on the opponent while they remain locked in an airborn state by Morrigan’s missiles, at the perfect height for her to get maximum damage without even having to aim them.

Hsien-Ko - Ball Drop
Felicia - Kitty Helper
Morrigan - N/A

This is the less than ideal set-up. Felicia cannot Dancing Flash off of a Ball Drop super due to the manner in which the balls strike the target. They tend to make them fall out of Dancing Flash more than often, which can leave Felicia exposed. The best thing to do is DHC into Kitty Helper, dash forward and OTG them with Toy Touch and attempt to continue the combo.

Hsien-Ko - Blade Super
Felicia - Dancing Flash
Morrigan - Finishing Shower

This isn’t exactly a DHC set-up, but sort of works like one. After using Hsien-Ko’s Blade super, you can hard tag in Felicia, dash forward and then use Dancing Flash to catch your opponent as they fall. After this, you can DHC Hsien-Ko into the Ball super and Morrigan into Finishing Shower.

There are some other variations, but they all mostly revolve around this setup. You can also DHC Morrigan’s level 3 super off of Dancing Flash easily if you want to blow the meter.

7. What type of impact will your Team Hyper Combo have on your opponent (Explain)?

It’s situational. Since it’s not something that can be used effectively at full screen(no beams), it’s best used in the corner. If you have 4 or more bars to burn and want to style, here’s what I feel is the most effective setup:

With Hsien-Ko on point, land a normal aerial combo that dumps your opponent in the corner. After you land, use the Ball Drop super. After it ends, your opponent will still be grounded momentarily, giving you enough time to activate your Team Hyper Combo, which will cause Hsien-Ko to use her Blade super, popping them up in the air enough to get hit by Dancing Flash and Finishing Shower. After Hsien-Ko summons the Blades, she’s free to move again, meaning you can dump another Ball super on them if you want while they’re still being blown up by Felicia and Morrigan.

8. What are some of the weaknesses of your team?

No beams or full screen supers that aren’t easily avoided. Finishing Shower covers the length of the screen, but doing it from anywhere outside of a combo is an enormous waste, as the missiles travel very slowly and can be super jumped over. Hsien-Ko’s Blade super also travels slowly and can be easily jumped over if attempting to use it from full screen. Felicia has no real full screen options when it comes to supers.

Their ability to DHC into each other is situational and is not immediately apparent. They also cannot abuse the DHC damage/hitstun reset glitch, which is something a lot of people are building their teams around lately.

Most of all, their health. This is pretty much a one-hitter-quitter team. You have little to no room for error with them against most of the cast. You have to know what your opponent is capable of before going in so that you can avoid their strengths and exploit their weaknesses. Avoiding chip damage is just as important as blocking. Even if you are on top of your game, their health is such a limiting factor that even blocking a random beam from full screen can put a significant dent in them.

**9. After filling out this questionnaire, are you still comfortable with your team? **

Absolutely. This has been my day one team and I am more than comfortable with them. Sure, I still get blown up sometimes due to my own mistakes, but they are so fun and unlike any other characters in the game and I can’t imagine playing anyone but them. I also take pride in knowing that I play with a team set-up that most people wouldn’t even consider.

I find it pretty funny how alot of you dont know how to build a team…Just pick who you LIKE and work with it.

When I saw Wolve and Chun I knew they were gonna be in my team PERIOD (I like those chars used them In Xmen-vs Street Marvel vs Street and Marvel1) I needed a third and I didnt like anyone else beside Morri. I’m not gonna lie and be like i’m a hardcore Morri fan blah blah blah when i’m not. That said I thinks he’s hot/pretty so why not. Plus i’m a huge fan of Lilith. So since day one i’ve been rocking this team.

At first it seemed like it didnt work out with them. They didnt “click”. But those were the chars that I liked so I stuck with them no matter what.

Now I feel like they make a beastly team. In short my love my team. Not only is it made out of chars that I ACTAULLY ENJOY playing as, but they also kick ass big time.

As for Morri’s role in my party she’s far from just a silly battery. She’s my third char. I dont use the meter assist either I use Soul Fist. It may seem lame to most of you, but i’m not gonna sit here and debate why i do this.

All of my DHC’s work EXTREMELY well.

Also, Morri with xfactor lvl 3 (which is how I use her mostly) along with her Astral Vission super doesnt need an assist.

That said, if Cammy or Kyoko would have been in this game I would have pick one of them over her. I know i’m dreaming about the Kyoko thing, but it would have been cool if she was in this game :slight_smile:

please tell me how you DHC from morrigans air finishing shower into chun…or wolverine. it doesnt work. the only thing you can do with morrigan is do air magic > j.S > otg Shadow servant > berserker barrage X…and that doesnt even net too much extra damage…and you just plain cant DHC into chun at all unless you do it HELLA early…and you miss most of the shadow servant hits.

on a seperate note, I feel like wolverine is one of the braindead characters in this game. Hes too simple, and far too effective. Same with Wesker. call me salty if you want (which im honestly not), but i just feel like hes a cheeseball character in this game. he doesnt really have to work too hard.

and what makes you think we dont know how to make teams ? we could say the same about you, if you look at it from a competitive stand point. You dont have an assist to help you get in. Your DHCs arent spectacular. etc.

point im trying to make is, dont come in here and act all hard for no reason. everyone in this forum is pretty nice for the most part, and we dont really need someone coming in and starting mess.

just saying. otherwise, welcome to the morrigan boards.

  • K1

Lol, any team can be competitive just look at Jwong sure it’s Jwong, but still. He mostly uses different teams every time on wednesday night fights and either wins or comes close to winning. This isnt Marvel 2 anymore. I think any team has a fair chance of winning or getting very far depending on how you use em.

As for your rant about Wolve I dont care. That seems like something personal so I wont get into that. However, I didnt make my post to make you or anyone in here use my team. I just simply wanted to share who my team was since it included Morrigan and all. It’s not a tutorial on how to use them effectively. IMO I really like MY team and it works for me plus it’s made out of characters that I actually like not characters that the communy thinks are good. So what’s the problem?

As for acting “hard” or starting “mess”, you’re pretty silly if you think THAT’S acting hard…I was simply stating that everyone should use the characters they like and make em work insted of quickly trying to go for the “good” characters.

That said thanks for the welcome :slight_smile:

I think it’s just the way you phrased it.

‘‘I find it pretty funny how alot of you dont know how to build a team…’’

sounded more like:

‘‘I find it funny that you guys still don’t know how to play the damn game yet.’’

So, I can understand why K1 took that as an harsh statement. Don’t get me wrong, I understand your point of view, but honestly, I don’t completely agree with it either. Yes, it’s not Marvel 2 and there are a lot more possibilities and freedom in picking characters, but having some sort of synergy between the characters you pick is probably the most important part in picking your teams (If you’re playing to win that is). I’m sorry but pairing Storm (who is a meter hungry character) with Pheonix (who requires 5 meters to be exploited at her highest potential) is just not a good thing to do no matter what you say. Even Justin, who uses different characters all the time, always comes up with something that works between his 3 characters and does not just pick 3 characters randomly.

Personally, I like Morrigan and I’m trying to play her at her best potential. And If playing at her highest potential means that I’ll have to play a character that I don’t necessarily like, I won’t mind.

That’s cuz you (general term) are always thinking negative thoughts or are just used to being trolled online lol.

But no I didnt mean it like that.

One of the recent WNF Wong picked a completely random team that someone told him to use. He got like third place with it lol. The team seemed very out of place and stuff but he still managed. I know it’s J wong but still.

That said I understand where you’re coming from I just dont agree with it. I’m the kinda player that always picks characters because I actually enjoy them as a character. Not for what they can do in combat. Using characters that I do not like makes the game boring as ****. I rather win with my TRUE fav characters, rather than the top tier chars. However if one of my fav char happens to be top tier in a game then i’m just lucky then :slight_smile:

I will go into more detail now on how my team actually works. The other guys didnt seem to understand that I use Morri as a third character. She rarely comes into the fighting when Wolve and Chun are still alive. She only comes in as my assist (Soul Fist) I used to use the meter assist however Wolve and Chun need some kinda back up to help them get in. Sure the Soul Fist isnt the best assist but it helps ALOT.

As for the meter, it’s not a problem Wolve and Chun build a ton of it on their own. Also when I said that all of my chars DHC perfectly I meant it as in Wolve, Chun, then Morri (keep in mind that Morri rarely fights when they are both alive though) 95% of the time I never have to dhc into Morri though.

The way Morri works in my team is like her own team if that makes any sense. Wolve and Chun fight the “hard fight” while Morri just waits (or comes out as an assist) until Wolve and Chun are dead. Then she comes in if I have space I will do Astrall Vission and then i’ll go into Xfactor lvl 3 like this Morri doesnt need any assist Astrall Vision followed by two slow soul fists can cover her rush down. She is sooo fast under Xfactor lvl 3 that getting in close on your opponent doesnt require much effort. If I touch you with one hit you can kiss that character good bye. I’ve made countless comes backs with Morri it’s not even funny. If I touch you once you will die.

So in short Morri does her own thing.

As for Wolve and Chun, they have great synnergy together. I have touch of death combos with them all day long (uisng them both in a combo). The only downfall to them is that zoning characters can give them a very hard time cuz they both have to get in close to do the real damage. This is where Soul Fist assist helps me out a bit :slight_smile:

So no if you look at it YOUR way my team “sucks” together especially if you want Morri as a point or mid character, Yea it would totaly suck lol.

But if you use Morri as a pure Xfactor lvl 3 anchor she can be teamed up with just about anyone in the game. Because she can do her own thing :slight_smile:

However if you wanna use her as a point character then yes you will have to find her some decent characters to pair her up with.

As for myself I just stuck with them and made certain tweaks to them as a team and I actually made something work out (for me atleast) I didnt have to copy anyone’s team nor did I have to use characters that I did not like. So i’m happy about that.

Anyways, I hope made it a lil more understandable.

If I were to just use my three favorite characters, I’d still be pulling my hair out trying to make Phoenix/Zero/Morrigan work. While it’s no Captain America/MODOK/Thor, it’s still an extremely ass team if you aren’t leagues ahead of the opponent in skill. I’d happy if I genuinely like 2/3rds of my team, and I can actually play all 3. I generally like characters that are straight forward in game play, as long as they’re effective, like Wesker. Finding a third that both fit my play style, and worked well with the other members of my team was actually difficult, so input was needed from others .

Phoenix/Zero/Morrigan could actually work, you just gotta think outside the box…

As a matter of fact this wouldnt be such a bad team at all. You can have Zero as your point character (he’s very good) Morri second with her meter assist for Phoenix or even some for zero depending on how the match goes and then of course Phoenix as a anchor (the only way to play her)

You dont have to worry too much about DHC’s since all the meter is for D.Phoenix so you dont have to worry about that. Zero has a ton of combos and mixs ups one of the best if not the best rushdown characters IMO he builds meter fast so you can probably get away with a super or two depending on how the match is going, plus you have Morri constantly giving you meter too.

The only real problem with this team is that you dont have a great assist to help Zero get in. Your best option would be Phoenix’s fireball however you’ll need to be careful cuz if she gets hit she will die.

Other than that, it’s not such a bad team as you think it is. It’s far from “pulling my hair out” that’s for sure. That said I dont main Zero or Phoenix so I dont know alot about them just the obvious things.

Zero / Morrigan / Phoenix would get destroyed by any keep away team. Since Zero has no way of getting in via assist, hes going to get raped…and if youre trying to constantly call out morrigan shes going to get hit eventually as well. The team overall can be touch of deathed pretty damn easily. on top of that, if phoenix gets snapped in, you have no assist to help her out at all. hell, Storm by herself could rape that team. they all lose to whirlwind + hail chip.

Of course im sure if justin played that team he would blow people away, but then again, its justin. Im sure ANY team has potential…the question is. how high is that potential. I honestly cant see Zero / Morrigan / Phoenix getting far. I dont think ive ever seen a Zero / Phoenix team, and for good reason. Zero does ass damage without meter.

just my two cents i guess

Morrigan/Sent/Trish is a team i use.

You need to level up nigga you play good characters that all mesh well. Maybe not comboable DHCs but still very good.

Morrigan Sent got some oki mixups for yo ass.

KI, you really have a “scrub” mentality…lol I’m sorry but you do.

Now before I continue i’m not the best nor am I placing high in tourney’s, but I atleast try things out before calling them worthless.

If that team gets OWNED with EASE as YOU put it then I shouldnt be getting ANY wins with my team then. Because I have two fully rushdown characters and not a good assist to back them up (Zero is better IMO than Wolve and Chun). So by YOUR logic I should be completely FREE against zoning characters.

Now again, I know i’m not playing the best of the best, but online I win alot and against good 3d lords and such. I also come across crappy players but I dont count those. I play against plenty of keep away (zoning) characters and I win most of the time. But hey according to YOUR AMAZING logic I should be getting maaad raped cuz I dont have a good assist to back up my characters.

Just recently I played a 2nd lord (I believe) he had some if not the best assist characters as his main team. He was rocking Sent (on point) Doom (second) and Hagar (anchor) He had an azmaing keep away game with Hiddden Missiles and Sent, plus when I got in close he called out Haggar which beats out pretty much anything due to the invincible frames. Now if you’re not a scrub you should know that these 3 chars have great assist Drones with Sent, Missiles with Doom and Spinning Knuckle with Hagar. Widely known as the best assists in the game (aside from Trons flame).

He played a great keep away game it was really frustrading, but hey I wasn’t free infact we went back and forth i’ll win one he won one i’ll win 2 he’ll win two etc etc.

But again according to YOU I should be ****ing FREE.

If I had Zero insted of Wolve I honestly think I would have more wins. I think that Zero is the best rush down character in the game hands down. I just dont use him for the… wait for it here it comes…I just dont like him :slight_smile:

You simply need to think outside the box and drop your scrub mentality.

That said ima be straight up. You seem like the kinda guy who whines and makes excuses for his loses. You seem like the kinda guy who blames his losses on his opponents insted of realizing that you are the one who needs to get better overall. Am I wrong? I think not. You give me those “scrub” vibes…

I don’t think it really needs to be said, but there are definitely characters who have an advantage over others in a straight up, 1v1 matchup. Haggar for example can be easily outzoned by Storm, so long as she doesn’t get idle when he tries to super jump in and lay the pipe.

This is where player skill, determination and experience come into play. If you know your characters inside and out, know what your opponent’s characters are generally capable of, and are able to play to your strengths and exploit your opponent’s weaknesses, you definitely stand a chance even against a team whose characters are technically stacked against yours. Will it be easy? Probably not, but not giving up under any circumstances is what separates the men from the boys.

My team of Hsien-Ko, Felicia and Morrigan is by no means ideal, but I make them work and have had my share of landslide victories and humiliating defeats. The point is that I enjoy all three characters and have fun with them, winning or losing, and I think that was the point that Dias Flac was trying to make.

In theory I could potentially see a Zero/Morrigan/Phoenix team working. With Dark Harmonizer, you’d be able to build up 5 bars extremely fast, giving Zero plenty to work with while he’s on point. As long as you didn’t allow your super bar stock to go below say, 2, you could easily have the magic 5 back or be close to it before Phoenix is forced to step in, even if Morrigan gets bodied. DHC and assist options would likely be extremely limited, but you work with the hand you’re dealt!

I actually play Morrigan in a manner similar to you Dias. Hsien-Ko powers up and Felicia takes stage, and the two of them wreck as much havoc as possible. Often I don’t even need to bring out Morrigan, but when I do she tends to decimate whatever opposition is left just fine on her own.

Finally someone that’s knows what’s up :slight_smile: (talking about Ranadiel)

It’s not easy fighting characters that zone really well, but when you are comfortable with your characters (in this case Wolve and Chun) and have some kinda skill with them, you can outsmart and outplay someone like that. I like the not giving up line and the men from the boys line. I totaly agree with it. So far in this thread I see NOTHING BUT BOYS.

“Oohh no dude how can you use such a team@! They suck like that! You’re NEVER gonna win anything! That team sucks! Oh I cant use such a team zoning will own me for free! I need an assist to halp me get in because I cant do it on my own!!”

Shall I keep going?

I can totaly see the Zero/Morri/Phoenix team working. I explained it before and you di so again (maybe they’ll listen to you lol).

My best advice for people who want to use Morri at this early stage in the game, just pick her along with the characters you like. Hit up training mode and think outside the box. Try combos, try DHC’s change assist around that compliment your gameplay (dont just go by what people say experiment YOURSELVES) try changing your team layout etc etc. Just keep at it and experiment.

Here’s my example. I used to have Chun on point then Morri and then Wolve. I used to say to myself (man my team sucks…) but I stuck with them. I liked them alot and I wanted to make em work. So I hit that training mode, learn combos, learn different DHC setups, messed around with different assist types, changed my character layout etc etc.

The final product, Wolve on point, Chun second (with Lighting legs Assist) and Morri as an anchor for lvl 3 xfactor ownage (with Soul Fist Assist).

Now the norm around these parts is that YOU MUST use the meter assist if you are using Morri. That’s false. I used to use it, but I always had TOO MUCH meter. So I was like “hey wouldnt soul fist be more helpful for MY team?” so I gaved it a shot and sure is! Again it’s not the best assist, but atleast it gives my opponent something else to worry about other than just my Wolve. They know that a slow fireball is coming their way along with Wolve.

It may not seem like a whole lot but just the fact that they have that extra worry is enough to make things easier for both Chun and Wolve.

Needless to say i saw results very quickly.

And just like Ranadiel said, sometimes I get owned nasty status, sometimes Wolve owns full teams, sometimes Wolve and Chun get own then Morri comes in and owns EVERYONE lol.

Ranadiel, is that really your main team? If so that’s pretty badass a full vampire team :slight_smile: That sounds like a beastly team. Feli constantly causing rushdown with her over head kitty while Lei Lei backing her up with her great armor assist and Morri as a xfactor lvl 3 user. Your team actually sounds more solid than mine lol.

I’m still learning my team really. Eventhough I feel very comfortable with them, I feel like there’s still much more to learn about all 3 of them.

Annyways, sorry for such a long post lol.

I never actually tried them together, so when I can get some games in, I’ll see what’s up. Though, I’m sure the lack of good DHCs will hurt when trying to kill a character or bypass the MvC3 magic pixel.

Also, I’m aware of Morrigan + Sent mixups and it’s indeed gdlk. I like pairing them together only for that particular thing. Lol.

Oh boy. Whatever you say brah. If you think im a scrub thats fine. I base my knowledge off of offline matches with high level players, not my beating 3rd lord online warriors. And I dont know how you can say Zero is a better rushdown character than Mags…but hey, thats just me…what do I know, right ?

Ill just not comment on anything you have to say from now on, you seem to not be able to take any criticism.

SRK forums, will they ever get any better ? sigh

/end discussion. new topic.

Edit: by the way, I never said your team was free to zoning. I never said your team was bad. Wolverine has a retarded simple way around everything…Berserker Slash. It rapes zoning. Dont even try and pin that on me. I said nothing about your team. Maybe instead of jumping to conclusions you should actually read what I said. And on another note, if, as you said: everyone in here are boys" (simply because we are discussing possible teams i might add) then why dont you get your righteous self out of here. Sorry, just slightly irritated.

Team Darkstalkers has been my day one team and I haven’t looked back since. Felicia with the Kitty Helper backed by Dark Force Hsien-Ko and Morrigan supplying meter is my ideal setup, though Morrigan is fully capable of taking down full teams by herself if need be.

There have been times that I’ve swapped Morrigan’s Dark Harmonizer assist with her Soul Fist assist as extra cover for when Felicia and Hsien-Ko are on point, and I find it effective in some situations. Though overall I would rate her assists as Dark Harmonizer (A), Soul Fist ©, Shadow Blade ©. Soul Fist and Shadow Blade are just kinda blasé by themselves - a slow moving, low damage/durability projectile and a quick anti-air that launches opponents so high you can’t combo off it.

Call me back when they finally let Morrigan keep Astral Vision activated when she’s tagged out so that they contribute to her assists. Then I’ll revisit Soul Fist and Shadow Blade.

It irritates me soooo much how they allowed some of the other, more devastating powerup characters to keep their powerups after they tag out and not others. Is a bit of consistency too much to ask for…?

The consistency is that the vast majority of utility hypers either persist on tag out or allow you to continue building meter while they’re active, but not both. Viewtiful God Hand, Golden Armor, and Mad Beast are the only exceptions.

alright so ive been reading through this thread and im really liking what i see
ill finish reading after i throw out what ive found out in the past day

so morg, zero, hulk does insane damage off dhc and it can pretty much go off of every character
morg can aerial SH>zero rainbow> hulk qcb super and it pretty much takes out any character in the corner
hulk can gamma tsunami (i think thats what its called, dp super) in the corner> rainbow>astral vision if you need

the team is just sick in terms of dhc but im not so sure how general chemistry works with them
i was messing around with zero’s fireball assist while hes under shadow
that along with astral vision fly cancel fireballs fills the screen up and builds meter (i guess for morg or zero to blow)

the second team was morg, ryu, tasky
i really didnt mess around that much but they all dhc well, not as much damage as zero and hulk but still
the problem is otg if you really want it
tasky assist+ryu or morg fireballs cover alot of the lower screen
idk im just fool around

another topic that isnt really for this thread is astral vision combos, which ill probably start up in the combo thread if you guys are willing to test that out
what ive found is that long combos become completely useless with AV due to the damage/hit stun decay since all her attacks hit twice (duh)
so a combo comprised primarily of single hard hitting attacks really does damage, basically fly canceling fireballs
lets see if i can get this notation right

:s::uf:>j.:h:>:qcf::h:xx:qcb::s:>j.:h:>:qcf::h:xx:qcb::s:AD:f:>:m: then either :dp::m:xxFS or :s: to otg if you have an assist
or level 3 i guess

either way in astral vision this will destroy pretty much anyone in the corner

ALSO
what should i update the first post with, i need some ideas so im not just filling it with useless snuz

is it just a regular airdash or is it an upward air dash?