When are we gonna Marvel for some $$$
MM for .99…I could use a taco right about now.
U guys r so Mis guided
If ur good on dc or arcade ur good on xbx
If ya suck then Ull suck online
Ibaraki eve Eva x10000 loose to random xbx shitt
Unless it’s mr mvc2 rh lol
goforbroke: talk to me when you learn how to read. I keep trying to point out specifics of how you misinterpret but you don’t seem to get it. for example, me disrespecting players not from US. I think you need to re-read what I said (here’s a hint: I was calling out his tendency to talk shit to players brett doesn’t like and the fact that he’s not even IN the US so his shit talk can’t be backed in a MM. not anything about his skill. yes, that was far from a hint and I practically gave it to you, but you’ve been having reading comprehension issues since the first time I’ve seen you post).
and also, you have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to online/offline marvel and coming back to online marvel after not playing it.
madtitan:
your 1st paragraph: you are stating the obvious. and stating what I know brett has and prob will state. that’s not the point. he dodged a MM from phocuss (who was still trying to learn and has been playing less but BARELY lost the last MM) and, after dodging the MM because he would’ve very likely lost (but felt his previous wins was good enough reason to dodge lol) he starts talking shit. if you dodge an MM I don’t think you really have any room to talk shit.
how about C) dislike the actual circumstances (barely won an MM, dodged second one, thinks he can talk shit freely even though he was too scared to play another [too scared to win more money? lol]). you can dodge the MM if you want, but then I don’t think you should constantly talk shit about the person on SRK and on Youtube.
also, I see some people have different interpretations of “dead”. a LOT, if not MOST, of the players of all skill levels have either moved on to MvC3 or stopped playing fighting games altogether. as far as can be told, there will be NO MORE MAJORS for it anymore. That’s my definition of dead. if you don’t agree, it still gets my original point across of where someone shouldn’t be getting super hypey after mashing out wins with msp, in lag, against a player who has moved onto mvc3, in a game with the current situation I explained. regardless of previous happenings for the most part
Golden-NZ: yeah, I generally agree. but I’m talking about skill in relation to others’ skill and getting wins online. the closer the skill levels are and the more 1 player depends on unsafe/rollable/mashy/autopilot shit or the more accustomed they are to online than the other can affect who wins.
an example would be this guy from chicago who I can rarely beat offline. him and I play online and the tables are practically turned. I wasn’t doing online mode shit, but I was just more accustomed to online mvc2 than he was at the time (much like primal was compared to phocuss). and this was wired chicago connections so yeah…online CAN throw everything out the window imo
I remember pretty well at FR. You were bitching…That’s all from you my friend…Wait…No…You weren’t bitching at the TV…My bad…It was the Playstation…
“The Playstation is terrible.” You kept giggling cause you were saying how terrible Marvel is in Playstation. If we played on 360 at Final Round. You wouldn’t bitch. That’s for sure.
GGs.
I’m not going to bother with you at all. You are a good player but you have excuses in every post.
umm you mean the several several frames of lag tv that others were saying sucked? yeah, ok.
and yeah, PS3 and XB360 marvel both suck. but none compare to playing on those huge, laggy, HDTVs in the hotel room. and I actually prefer PS3 offline over XB360 offline…but, once again, that’s beside the point. most of us were playing casuals on DC later on without any issue or bitching about lag/weirdness, which you so conveniently sat out on. you could’ve played my low tier there, where I wasn’t having lag related issues, and I wouldn’t have bitched at all 
you’d rather play on an HDTV with immense lag than the perfect DC port? hell, I was even forced to play on DC PAD and MAS sticks and both were still better than playing on that HDTV.
excuses? about online play compared to offline? lol ok, yep because those are totally invalid. and I recall the bit of time VDO and I chilled at FR joking about the players who beat us online but lose to us offline (moreso from him since he was playing much more there)
even if you don’t like these “excuses”…defending phocuss with them wasn’t the point. the point was that all that shit talk was unwarranted considering the circumstances.
and people who started with online MvC2 and really have no gauge for real offline marvel or the problems of online play generally don’t understand these things (or maybe just a few of them don’t, such as yourself), so I don’t mind if we don’t bother with each other when it comes to this topic.
I’ve so far never had good execution on DC mvc2 (only on TEs and some arcade machines) but offline DC/Arcade marvel is the only version that actually feels natural and that matters. I hope you played at least a bit of it at FR or at some point. you’ll actually get punished consistently for random tags/mashing and cr.FK shit and won’t get all those rollable combos off anymore.
OhhhhhhMyyyyyyyyyyyyyyJESUSandBurrito…
Seriously…Wow…A new twist. A nice stunt you pulled there.
FR: I was actually playing it on Dreamcast. I had great matches with Krazzy, VDO, Zach, and IuseDoom and I don’t think I played ATL_Launchpad because he was busy getting scaped by VDO. Also, they had the converter and they only had one converter. I couldn’t play on the DC pad because it was not responding too great. I have no reason to mash on pad when it comes to offline casual.
I wouldn’t mind playing your low tier. Even tho T.Bonne’s assist is a bitch. But, I wouldn’t mind stepping it up against you. I didn’t take MvC2 seriously when it was released because I had no one in my community till later on I found out about the online. That’s how I met a lot of players in my local area and play time to time offline with them when I can and when I have the flexibility.
I used to go every Friday and Saturday at the arcades to play Marvel vs Capcom 2. Once they decided to stop supporting it (repairing the joystick, buttons). The cabinet died. Heck, I prefer offline Marvel. However, there are a lot of players outside of my state that I wanna play and online is the only solution.
Gotta realize that online is the way things are going to be held as. Offline is a ++++++ because you have no excuses. Same will go for online unless they have a shitty connection. However, even online will feel the same . Only difference will be frame advantage. However, combo wise. No. You’ll drop a few but not constantly.
However, Phocus made a clear post on YouTube that he’ll scape anyone random Marvel player. That’s the whole purpose. If you come back to Final Round in 2012. I’ll make sure to bring a Dreamcast and a CRT. That way. you and I can enjoy it. I’ll make sure that we’ll have spare converter so I can enjoy it on a PS2 pad at least.
not sure about the twist/stunt you’re talking about, but fair enough. it was just weird that you were sitting there not playing, but like I said…I didn’t go for mvc2 so you could’ve prob been playing when I wasn’t there.
I don’t play t.bonne. even when we played on the HDTV I used anak/thanos/sonson.
eh I still disagree about online. but whatevs. your personal experiences does not make those statements absolute for everyone. and I’ve been on both ends of having who wins and who loses totally change offline compared to online so it seems pretty obvious to me. but as with most things in life, ymmv. which is why I generally argue that such things* can and do* happen, but not necessarily always.
I did not see that video…though I guess it matters WHEN he posted it. if he doesn’t play mvc2 online much anymore he should prob. remove it.we’ll see about FR. hopefully arcana is there again and maybe this time I won’t have stick issues (being gone for 2 days…and then not even being modded correctly)
goes to find that phocus video
I played when you weren’t there only because I had the converter at that time. Other then that. I didn’t play often unless it was on a PS3 because of pad situation for me. However, I will be getting use to the Dreamcast pad again.
The above is a quote of mine that you responded to way back in January 4th of this year. You see, that is a perfectly valid reason for me to not bother to MM Phocus again. The funny part is, that you already accepted it as valid, and now you are acting like I am dodging. I am not now, nor was I ever friends with Phocus. So I wouldn’t invite him to my home, and I’m not going to spend $850-$1,000 to fly to Evo just to defeat someone who I beat 3 times already.
Recently, Phocus began talking shit in the comments of the MM3 video, and he challenged all those who posted to ONLINE FT10 matches. So for you to sit there and make complaints about the flaws of MvC2 online is senseless, since Phocus already threw the challenge on everyone who was posting comments to play the FT10 online. Yes it is true that Primal did several c hk, trijump hk combos, and those are less reliable offline. If you put the microscope on Phocus though, you would notice that he made a lot of tactical and combo errors in the FT10 vs Primal.
If you really look back at how this began in this thread recently, I did not even post the first remark. First Attack posted about how he was scraping Phocus and he needed to step his game up. Then I made a comment because Phocus and a couple of his friends had bragged multiple times about his extensive tournament experience. So not only does he get murked online by people that have been playing MvC2 for less time than him, but he already admitted that he has never beat a top player in a (offline) MvC2 Tournament.
It’s clear that the reason for a lot of people disliking Phocus is that he is a sore loser. Nobody likes a sore loser. You see it as being all about that people who support me just talk shit to Phocus because of the money matches. The truth is, that if Phocus had just taken those losses and accepted that he got outplayed, then he wouldn’t get all the criticism. Despite countless results offline and online, he still swears he is a better player than me. Even though many players who have played vs both of us readily admit that Phocus is nowhere near my level. I do not claim to be one of the best MvC2 players, and I know I am not one of the best MSP players either. I do know the players that I am better than though.
Every now and then Phocus must just get agitated that he lost MM3, so he posts comments on the part 4 video. A few months ago someone made a comment about how both players burned a lot of meter. Then I told him that Phocus burned meter with Storm more frequently than I did. That is a fact, not even a judgment. Phocus clearly took it personal though, since he responded and acted as though I was talking shit about him.
Anyone who is objective and logical can clearly see that I was not even playing at 25% of my usual level in the first half of MM3 vs Phocus. Josh was there and he has seen my play Marvel consistently ever since 2005. He told me afterwards that he never saw me play as terrible as I played in the first half of the MM. Yet somehow I still won a few matches in that scenario. All you are doing is looking at the final score, and are overlooking the way the matches progressed. It is nobody’s fault but my own that I played at such a low level to start in that MM. However, to ignore the fact that I elevated my game (while he kept his at the same general level) is to disregard the fact that when I raised my game, he was not capable of reaching to that level. There is no other explanation as to how a player would lose an 8-3 lead in a FT10. Adaptation is key, and he never found a way to adapt.
As I wrote before, once I got my mental game together, he got outplayed in every facet of the game. Even in the last match, he had my Magneto and Psylocke down to about 5-10% life early on. As much as people talk about how I got so lucky that Phocus stood up at the end, think about this: I did the things necessary so that I would have a solid chance of emerging victorious at the end. Had he played that much smarter, it would not have mattered if he stood up 2 or 3 seconds early. He dropped that lead, just as he dropped the 8-3 lead earlier in that FT10. The fact is, that no skilled MvC2 player should lose a FT10 when they are winning 8-3 and have Thrax vs MSP.
SRK: we da best.
as much as i love Beats’ posts…
GG’s to Romneto!! and sorry to Golden Nismor… I was on a time constraint for mahvel cuz “had other family matters” 
to attend to, and just so happens brett and i decided to play before your invites… We’ll get some in tomorrow (saturday) homie.
Romneto:[details=Spoiler]
honestly I don’t see why, regardless of you guys not being friends (which is not uncommon in regards to MMs) still couldn’t meet for a MM somewhere. anyway, even if it isn’t somehow dodging, I don’t think that means you can make what I feel are snide remarks and jabs at him.
has he really been talking shit? after seeing the description in the 1st primal ft10 vid there didn’t seem to be anything wrong with what he said. Though I do agree, his mistake was challenging these people to an online ft10 (even more if he doesn’t play as much as he used to because coming back to online mvc2 can be a bitch). regardless of his loss, if he wasn’t really shit talking I don’t feel the responses from primal are warranted. The only reason I was talking about how primal was playing was because he got all defensive and snippy when phocus made a valid point about his play. so I tried spelling out for him what was going on. Of course I saw the mistakes phocus was making and I also have seen him play much better than that (when the game was more alive online)
I didn’t agree with first attack’s post either, so I hope one of my above posts made it clear to him. But it seems like your comment was much more snide (I vaguely remember it now though) and that you having been poking jabs/shit talking in other places. I’m not aware of the bragging.
honestly kurow just seems like a general annoying shittalker, even if phocus really was shittalking too, how can he say phocus sucks if he’s not even in the US to back up his own skills against phocus with a MM?.
I honestly think that 4th MM if it happened then (not now obviously since you still seem to play mvc2 religiously while he doesn’t) we would’ve seen him win it. I don’t know if he is still saying that now, but at the time I think I would’ve agreed with him that he was a better player. using the last MM, which you barely won, doesn’t necessarily say who is the better player (as you know, it’s how both players do against many other players, not 1on1). but there are other things that showed his inexperience (that doesn’t necessarily mean he is overall worse) like being wishy-washy on what teams to pick, panicking under pressure, etc.
even if you really were better than him then, do you really think it was as much as “nowhere near my level”? I’d say with relative amount of time he’s been playing compared to you and how close the last MM was that that’s a stretch : / at the least, you guys were pretty close around the time of the last MM and I just sorta thought he was a bit better than you.
regardless, none of that matters now because he clearly says he doesn’t really play anymore and no MM will happen so it’s all a useless situation. which is why there shouldn’t be shit talking period from either side.
I just didn’t like all rude remarks from people who actually still play the game at this point about someone who (supposedly) doesn’t. though I guess if he was truly talking shit on the same level then I guess it’s only fair?
and also primal still shouldn’t be getting all high and mighty for those same reasons, and probably check his gameplay before he gets all defensive and shit-talky when phocus made, what I feel was, an accurate observation.[/details]
otherwise, I see nothing wrong with where you’re coming from as you explained it. obviously I guess I don’t know the full story and am not about to go back and read posts and youtube comments to figure it out. everyone should just be nice i guess imo. with the current state the game is in and especially if one side doesn’t really play anymore and the other side won’t MM for whatever the reason, there’s no reason for shit talk from either side.
either way, you guys will do what you want I just got really annoyed when I saw primal’s post and then saw the video.
EDIT: argh I see you added a couple more points. though I don’t think it really matters to what I was ultimately trying to say, so meh (though I guess it does sort of reply to the last few points I made in the spoilered section about the MM3/who is better). perhaps you really were/are considerably greater than phocus (I’m not sure who is/don’t care anymore) if he really isn’t shit talking and doesn’t play anymore and a 4th MM won’t happen, I don’t think peeps should be attacking him like they seem to be.
otherwise, carry on everyone.
and god, KHAOS’ avatar, rofl
“honestly kurow just seems like a general annoying shittalker, even if phocus really was shittalking too, he say phocus sucks if he’s not even in the US to back up his skills with a MM?”
:nono:Kurow lives in cali… he’s from el salvador tho… maybe thats where the misunderstanding came from? :tup:
ah, good to know. so that’s half of it then. I still don’t think he should be doing it…but maybe at least now phocus has a chance to prove kurow wrong if he wants.
Dear Beats,
Troll-ol-olo-lolololololo, so I only beat Phocus because of tactics that you may get away with only 'Online’
Cool.
1.) I have one of THE most god forsaken arcade sticks on earth, when I get my Optical 360 MAS stick, I won’t have to burtally ‘Mash’ commands to ensure they display as I intend.
2.)Phocusss asked for the F10 Online, not me. And it’d be the same results offline too. Not to smell myself, but it’s just a hunch based on my experience/knowledge of him.
3.)It was an even fucking match-up, don’t act as if the favors just lingered in my hands. If Phocusss had the establishment to beat me, I money says you wouldn’t comment shit about the F10 in a critical manner either.
4.) Why do you seem so Salty for Phocusss? Appears he’s talking it well, so should you. No need to be extra punctual, give such subjective opinions for why he lost.
5.) Primal > Phocusss, so if you want. Hold that shit.
Oh, and the Sj. lp with Iron Man helps from getting crossed up a tad, also gets meter, it’s been recommened by great IM players to me. Like the Storm jab Phocusss likes to do.
where did I say this? he mentioned you were mashy, you got butthurt and defensive about it, I pointed out some, of many, examples where you were mashing your ass off. and many other cases where you were doing stuff that’s normally punishable/rollable. and yes, with how this game works once you get a hit, those things can greatly affect games. it’s called a game of don’t get touched for a reason. nowhere did I say that was the only reason you won. I also mentioned several experiences of where offline totally switches the favors of who wins so it’s probably something you should be aware of, being new to the game and all.
yes, I saw the cases where you were double tapping which is normal to get commands out…but I was definitely talking about the parts where you were just plain mashing which has nothing to do with the stick.
aside from me thinking he prob. shouldn’t have done that, it’s irrelevant to the points I was making anyway. moot. and nice, you have a hunch…who cares. you don’t know how it’ll be offline till you do it. not that it really matters.
uh, what?
um the whole reason came from your (and kurow’s/brett’s) end. has nothing to do with specifically phocus as my points would’ve been mostly the same regardless of who was on the receiving end of you acting like an ass.
um yeah, ok…
I’ll reiterate, no reason to act the way you are after mashing out wins, in laggy online marvel (which is sorta dead), against someone who doesn’t play anymore. and no reason to get defensive when phocus pointed out what I feel was valid…in that you were mashing a lot and that you do depend on netplay tactics.
um yeah, no one was talking about that. I know about IM sj.LP as I do the same. I’m talking about the part where you’re on the ground or about to land on the ground after phocus tapped you with an attack or something, and you’re just mashing off on lpmp or lkmk. this combined with everything else you were doing says that it wasn’t simply double-tapping to get a command out.
I’m not here saying you’re some super scrub or anything, but phocus had a valid point. you were doing a lot of stuff that is much more effective or safe than it really is offline.
Also, I relooked at the Video 3x’s and I wa overly agressive and tried to utterly destroy him no mercy point blank, I usually don’t attempt that on other players. But be seriously, rush him down and it’ll be give to you at most points.
D: I’ll play him offline one day and do the same. Please point out the specific times of these ‘mashing’ when it doesn’t matter too