MvC Infinite CHARACTER Speculation/Request Thread

it’s time for Eddie to join Guardians of the Galaxy & Avengers, & find out about Symbiote’s, like Flash did + if he (or along with Spidey) goes to Deadpool, he’ll (they’ll) find out DP had been in first SW & responsible for corrupting the symbiote’s mind.

Deadpool’s Secret 2x Wars everyone?

I am interested to see what Eddie’s relationship with the symbiote will be now. Seeing as it’s more independent and wants to help people.

At the very least, Eddie can’t blame it for his darker impulses anymore.

The Secret Wars with Deadpool isn’t canon, it was an alt universe tale.

I always thought Eddie was the definitive Venom, so I’d definitely be good with him making the roster.

Having said that, I hope this *doesn’t *hurt the chances of another Spidey rogue (Green Goblin, Ock, etc) making the roster. Spider-Man has never been repped well in the VS series, so a few of his villains wouldn’t hurt.

Bring in some of the characters from that X-Men game

MSP

I’ve been playing this game for since midnight. I definitely want that guy in it. :rofl:

In the current Carnage book he doesn’t. Gerry Conway’s resumed the character development that he was showing in the AV days; he knows that he’s been problematic since day 1 and is facing it. No more excuses. He’s also showing great concern for a civilian brought along on the adventure, named Jubulile.

From issue 15:

“God knows I’m no saint. I’ve done bad things in my life. I hurt people. Killed people. I used to blame the symbiote for what I did. I’d say, ‘That was Venom. That wasn’t me. That wasn’t Eddie Brock.’ Now I know better. These last few months, chasing Cletus Kasady halfway 'round the world…seeing what he’s done, knowing what Kasady wants to do…it fells like the man upstairs is giving Eddie Brock a second chance to finally make things right.”

“Same with me. Venom didn’t make Eddie Brock a bastard. I did that all by myself. I swear to you, I’m trying to be a better man. Not a day goes by that I don’t regret what I’ve done. Every day I ask God for his forgiveness.”

Conway really gets him, so I’m sad tomorrow’s the last issue. I just hope that Venom issue 6 does him justice and doesn’t flush his character down the crapper to make him regress to the old days.

Costa has stayed true to the symbiote’s character development, so hopefully the same will be true for Eddie.

Honestly, part of the reason i started to like Flash more was because his and the Symbiote’s character development tended to stay consistent, while Eddie went back and forth after being Anti-Venom.

Wait wait wait, Eddie Brock isn’t a villain anymore?

See Venom was a character they should have never made uncrazy. I’m so glad that while Sabretooth can act Civil, they maintain that he’s still a crazy fuck.

Like i said, he tends to go back and forth.

Depends on which Venom you’re talking about and no matter the host, none of them were ever as bad as Cletus.

I loved Michelinie’s Eddie Brock. Haven’t really read much else with him since.

Brock has been more of an anti-hero since at least the mid-90s.

All I know is when Venom was introduced he was talking about eating brains. Ha!
When he started going good I was like wait what?

Well, there’s always carnage to take the helm of spiderman villain rep

Hasn’t been a villain for ages man. In the early 2000’s he sold off his symbiote as his cancer progressed. He attempted suicide at one point and then went into character limbo till around Civil War where he was in his final days and being driven crazy thinking the symbiote was still talking to him. He was influenced to try and kill aunt May, but he couldn’t go through with it and said to Peter “don’t worry, I cut it out of me, I’m better” or something before throwing himself out a window, but Pete webs him.

We next see him still gaunt, bald and ailing, but he’s working at Martin Lee’s F.E.A.S.T. homeless shelter and soup kitchen. He, May and Martin are very close and Eddie’s there in his final days to give back to the world. While he was in his final days, Matt Murdock cleared him of all his past crimes, citing that he was influenced by the Venom symbiote. Wishing to give back before he died, he joined FEAST.

During a backup story it reveals that his cancer in in complete remission and it may be due to dubious means. He celebrates by tearfully telling May and Martin. It turns out that Martin li is mr. Negative, he unknowingly used his Darkforce abilities and caused the antibodies and symbiote remnants in Eddie to mutate.

When the Thunderbolts dispatched MacGargan to hunt Spidey, he was being led in a direction by the symbiote. He lands in FEAST and realizes that it’s Eddie the symbiote led him to, not, Spidey. He’s taunting the very human Brock, but suddenly Gargan’s hands start to burn and Brock gets coated in a substance and transforms into Anti-Venom.

During a fight, he sees Spidey save an old man and he finally wakes up and buries his hatred of Pete then and there. He pretty much sacrifices his future to help Spidey since, in the post Civil War world, Norman Osborn runs the SHIELD-like agency called H.A.M.M.E.R. he helps Spidey save the day, but is branded a fugitive. He goes on to help others and becomes friends with a young drug addict named Jemma. He crosses paths with the Punisher and is instrumental in saving people from a mutating spider-plague in Spider-Island.

Eddie sacrifices his powers entirely to help create a cure, is declared the official hero of Spider Island, but is left penniless afterwards as things wind down. He begins hunting former symbiote hosts before getting captured and forcefully bonded to the Toxin Symbiote and goes after Agent Venom (Flash Thompson.) The arc with Symbiote Hunter Brock was to lead to a global event called the Spawning, but sadly never got written before Venom was cancelled.

During Agent Venom’s book, he fights Toxin, but Brock appears to perish in fire. He returns in a later arc to battle Flash due to him feeling symbiotes are a poison and is begrudgingly working with Toxin. After Flash and Eddie team up to stop another threat he mentions that he’s proposing a deal similar to the one Spidey and Eddie made when Brock fled to live in San Francisco in peace. Eddie says that if Flash loses control, he’ll mercy kill him and the symbiote. Despite being rivals Eddie wasn’t a villain here.

In the current Carnage book: Sometime later the government hunts Brock down in Philadelphia, he had been setting up shop there after the confrontation with Flash as a vigilante. He’s forcefully made to join up with an Anti-Carnage task force, Carnage is basically getting imbued with Cthulu powers and it’s a rather interesting read. The final issue comes out tomorrow. In it he continues his depth and the quote I posted earlier is from the previous issue. He’s trying to be a better man and willing to do what needs to be done.

After the events of Carnage he’ll appear in the current Venom book.

Overall, in the last decade Eddie Brock went off to limbo and then was given some amazing character development that has felt mostly natural and he’s greatly benefited from it. I do not want him to be a villain anymore and I hope that Costa (Venom’s current writer) weaves a compelling narrative for the big guy. He’s gone through a ton of interesting stories, so simply making him bad again would be a waste.

(I’m a huge Venom fan if you can’t guess lol)

Yeah, that always was a threat till his symbiote made him actually do that in Venom: The Hunger. Brock was absolutely traumatized and they split off once the symbiote went mad. It turns out that dopamine or phenylethylamine is needed by the symbiote, but Brock could calm it down by giving it chocolate once in a while. I remember afterwards there was a panel in a book where Venom was singing “the Venom Man” song to the beat of the 60s Spider-man while hoarding a bag of chocolate bars. hah

Heh, got it. Anyway I liked evil venom, much better than I liked Carnage. The dopemine thing? Eh. Guess it’s a better twist than what they did to deadpool.
When they realized the book was going to be successful they turned his murdering sociopath backstory on its head.

“Good” is subjective in Eddie’s case. He was called the “Lethal Protector” in his Anti-Hero days for a reason. Flash was the purely heroic one and even he killed people if he felt it necessary.

Though these days, i don’t like evil Eddie/Venom all that much, mainly since his motivation and goals as a villain. Which is why i tend to like post character development Eddie more these days.

I wish we got Flash so we can get Venom with AHVB.