MvC Infinite CHARACTER Speculation/Request Thread

[DevilJin_01]

Then I declare they should make him suck so he is seen as a hero when he emerges rather than a tool for tier whores that won’t get respect

[PSYCH0J0SH]

Such is the struggle of all Capcom big bodies.

[d3v]

'Gief was mid/B tier XvSF going by both Shiro_420 and Dogface’s tier lists. Mid-tier, in a game where a character couldn’t be used just for their assist. Arguably better than Alex who won tournaments just because his assist made Zero even better.

-A completely invincible running super that goes across the whole screen and can be comboed out of

Doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll have the same properties here. I mean, look at Chun-Li’s Houyokusen super. You couldn’t necessarily combo out of it in every game it was in.

Besides, this isn’t much in a game where every super can theoretically be comboed out of.

-Not just an anti-air grab, but an INVINCIBLE REVERSAL anti-air grab, and an invincible reversal anti-air super. Zangief’s air grab isn’t shit compared to this.

Arguably worse since it’s a grab. Regular anti-air specials are already worse in Marvel due to the vertical space. A grab might have even less value since it can’t help serve as a lockdown that can be tagged out of.

-MASSIVE hitboxes that can poke people out from a great distance away. In a game like Marvel this could be used to confirm into combos from an unfair distance.

Probably not going to apply here since it seems we don’t have MvC3’s ridiculously large hit spheres and generous hitstun.

-Several moves with** hyper armor** that can close the distance or put people in the corner, like meat squasher and monster lariat.

Which are EXs, something this game does not natively have. And needing to have a unique system mechanic just to make a character work doesn’t speak much for said characters viability in the first place.

You’re really just grasping at straws to try and crap on the idea of Hugo being in the game, it’s retarded.

Obviously if Hugo is going to be in Marvel he’s going to have Marvel shit. He’d have his full-screen invincible super, he’d have his EX’s (which Chun and Viper had in UMVC3 so your excuse holds no weight at all). and his anti-air grab would obviously be used in trap situations instead of lockdown. Do something to force your opponent to jump, tag in Hugo, he gets his bone on.

Hugo’s anti-air grab would even be particularly useful in a tag burst mechanic. Your opponent traps you in an air combo, you spend the meters to tag in Hugo and anti-air grab them, free as fuck. He forces them to eat shit.

Chun didn’t need EXs to be high tier in MvC1, and it looks like she might not need them to be viable here either.

And jumping has never been as bad in Marvel as it is in SF. SF style anti-air tools, that were good in that series tend to become shit in Marvel thanks to super jumps and the series’ verticality. Historically, the best anti-airs in the series have always been either projectiles or beams. Stuff like Captain Corridor, or Gene Splice, or Molecular Shield, etc.

The way the series is designed as a whole is not friendly to traditional big bodies because you can’t just walk your opponents down and make them pay, not when they can just super jump out of the way. Look at the only “big body” who ever became god tier. Sentinel was good because it didn’t play like a traditional big body. Instead, you got the robot flying up all over the place and using his mobility. He was basically a giant sized pixie. Look at how they balanced Sent in MvC3 - they took away some of his speed and mobility from 2. No longer could it just fly around, control the air, and give everyone else the big boot. Even without the health nerf, Sent would have probably been overshadowed by the same characters that dominate MvC3 now.

Now you’re just moving the goalposts, changing your argument to “all anti-airs are useless unless they’re projectiles that go straight upwards”. You’re acting like this is the only tool in Hugo’s arsenal when I’m thinking it’d be a very situational trap utility. Characters would need to come back down to Earth eventually, and also since he’s in Marvel he could potentially have a version of shootdown backbreaker he could do in the air.

Regarding your tirade about Sentinel, Zangief doesn’t have any of that stuff either and yet you’re arguing for his inclusion over Hugo, Pretty great selective reasoning you’re showing here. Anyways, KaneBlueRiver showed that a team of big bodies can clean house in a game like Marvel, despite all the Vergils and Dooms and Phoenixes around. Honestly the only reason to not put Hugo in MVCI is because it’s MVCI, but he’d still have great potential in Marvel in general.

When did I say I was pulling for 'Gief. Last time I mentioned him, I merely said that he was viable in XvSF. Doesn’t mean I want him in the game.

And lets not downplay the fact that KBR won because of his skill, not because of his team. Saying otherwise is like saying that Alex is suddenly viable and that 3rd Strike isn’t imbalanced because Genki won with Alex against Boss’s Yun at Coop Cup GFs.

[PSYCH0J0SH]

'Gief was mid/B tier XvSF going by both Shiro_420 and Dogface’s tier lists. Mid-tier, in a game where a character couldn’t be used just for their assist. Arguably better than Alex who won tournaments just because his assist made Zero even better.

-A completely invincible running super that goes across the whole screen and can be comboed out of

Doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll have the same properties here. I mean, look at Chun-Li’s Houyokusen super. You couldn’t necessarily combo out of it in every game it was in.

Besides, this isn’t much in a game where every super can theoretically be comboed out of.

-Not just an anti-air grab, but an INVINCIBLE REVERSAL anti-air grab, and an invincible reversal anti-air super. Zangief’s air grab isn’t shit compared to this.

Arguably worse since it’s a grab. Regular anti-air specials are already worse in Marvel due to the vertical space. A grab might have even less value since it can’t help serve as a lockdown that can be tagged out of.

-MASSIVE hitboxes that can poke people out from a great distance away. In a game like Marvel this could be used to confirm into combos from an unfair distance.

Probably not going to apply here since it seems we don’t have MvC3’s ridiculously large hit spheres and generous hitstun.

-Several moves with** hyper armor** that can close the distance or put people in the corner, like meat squasher and monster lariat.

Which are EXs, something this game does not natively have. And needing to have a unique system mechanic just to make a character work doesn’t speak much for said characters viability in the first place.

You’re really just grasping at straws to try and crap on the idea of Hugo being in the game, it’s retarded.

Obviously if Hugo is going to be in Marvel he’s going to have Marvel shit. He’d have his full-screen invincible super, he’d have his EX’s (which Chun and Viper had in UMVC3 so your excuse holds no weight at all). and his anti-air grab would obviously be used in trap situations instead of lockdown. Do something to force your opponent to jump, tag in Hugo, he gets his bone on.

Hugo’s anti-air grab would even be particularly useful in a tag burst mechanic. Your opponent traps you in an air combo, you spend the meters to tag in Hugo and anti-air grab them, free as fuck. He forces them to eat shit.

Chun didn’t need EXs to be high tier in MvC1, and it looks like she might not need them to be viable here either.

And jumping has never been as bad in Marvel as it is in SF. SF style anti-air tools, that were good in that series tend to become shit in Marvel thanks to super jumps and the series’ verticality. Historically, the best anti-airs in the series have always been either projectiles or beams. Stuff like Captain Corridor, or Gene Splice, or Molecular Shield, etc.

The way the series is designed as a whole is not friendly to traditional big bodies because you can’t just walk your opponents down and make them pay, not when they can just super jump out of the way. Look at the only “big body” who ever became god tier. Sentinel was good because it didn’t play like a traditional big body. Instead, you got the robot flying up all over the place and using his mobility. He was basically a giant sized pixie. Look at how they balanced Sent in MvC3 - they took away some of his speed and mobility from 2. No longer could it just fly around, control the air, and give everyone else the big boot. Even without the health nerf, Sent would have probably been overshadowed by the same characters that dominate MvC3 now.

Now you’re just moving the goalposts, changing your argument to “all anti-airs are useless unless they’re projectiles that go straight upwards”. You’re acting like this is the only tool in Hugo’s arsenal when I’m thinking it’d be a very situational trap utility. Characters would need to come back down to Earth eventually, and also since he’s in Marvel he could potentially have a version of shootdown backbreaker he could do in the air.

Regarding your tirade about Sentinel, Zangief doesn’t have any of that stuff either and yet you’re arguing for his inclusion over Hugo, Pretty great selective reasoning you’re showing here. Anyways, KaneBlueRiver showed that a team of big bodies can clean house in a game like Marvel, despite all the Vergils and Dooms and Phoenixes around. Honestly the only reason to not put Hugo in MVCI is because it’s MVCI, but he’d still have great potential in Marvel in general.

When did I say I was pulling for 'Gief. Last time I mentioned him, I merely said that he was viable in XvSF doesn’t mean I want him in the game.

And lets not downplay the fact that KBR won because of his skill, not because of his team. Saying otherwise is like saying that Alex is suddenly viable and that 3rd Strike isn’t imbalanced because Genki won with Alex against Boss’s Yun at Coop Cup GFs.

It was completely because of his team. Are you insane? You think he could’ve pulled that off with any other team? That’s the one he practiced the most.

In a lot of cases “viability” is about how you use the characters.

[d3v]

'Gief was mid/B tier XvSF going by both Shiro_420 and Dogface’s tier lists. Mid-tier, in a game where a character couldn’t be used just for their assist. Arguably better than Alex who won tournaments just because his assist made Zero even better.

-A completely invincible running super that goes across the whole screen and can be comboed out of

Doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll have the same properties here. I mean, look at Chun-Li’s Houyokusen super. You couldn’t necessarily combo out of it in every game it was in.

Besides, this isn’t much in a game where every super can theoretically be comboed out of.

-Not just an anti-air grab, but an INVINCIBLE REVERSAL anti-air grab, and an invincible reversal anti-air super. Zangief’s air grab isn’t shit compared to this.

Arguably worse since it’s a grab. Regular anti-air specials are already worse in Marvel due to the vertical space. A grab might have even less value since it can’t help serve as a lockdown that can be tagged out of.

-MASSIVE hitboxes that can poke people out from a great distance away. In a game like Marvel this could be used to confirm into combos from an unfair distance.

Probably not going to apply here since it seems we don’t have MvC3’s ridiculously large hit spheres and generous hitstun.

-Several moves with** hyper armor** that can close the distance or put people in the corner, like meat squasher and monster lariat.

Which are EXs, something this game does not natively have. And needing to have a unique system mechanic just to make a character work doesn’t speak much for said characters viability in the first place.

You’re really just grasping at straws to try and crap on the idea of Hugo being in the game, it’s retarded.

Obviously if Hugo is going to be in Marvel he’s going to have Marvel shit. He’d have his full-screen invincible super, he’d have his EX’s (which Chun and Viper had in UMVC3 so your excuse holds no weight at all). and his anti-air grab would obviously be used in trap situations instead of lockdown. Do something to force your opponent to jump, tag in Hugo, he gets his bone on.

Hugo’s anti-air grab would even be particularly useful in a tag burst mechanic. Your opponent traps you in an air combo, you spend the meters to tag in Hugo and anti-air grab them, free as fuck. He forces them to eat shit.

Chun didn’t need EXs to be high tier in MvC1, and it looks like she might not need them to be viable here either.

And jumping has never been as bad in Marvel as it is in SF. SF style anti-air tools, that were good in that series tend to become shit in Marvel thanks to super jumps and the series’ verticality. Historically, the best anti-airs in the series have always been either projectiles or beams. Stuff like Captain Corridor, or Gene Splice, or Molecular Shield, etc.

The way the series is designed as a whole is not friendly to traditional big bodies because you can’t just walk your opponents down and make them pay, not when they can just super jump out of the way. Look at the only “big body” who ever became god tier. Sentinel was good because it didn’t play like a traditional big body. Instead, you got the robot flying up all over the place and using his mobility. He was basically a giant sized pixie. Look at how they balanced Sent in MvC3 - they took away some of his speed and mobility from 2. No longer could it just fly around, control the air, and give everyone else the big boot. Even without the health nerf, Sent would have probably been overshadowed by the same characters that dominate MvC3 now.

Now you’re just moving the goalposts, changing your argument to “all anti-airs are useless unless they’re projectiles that go straight upwards”. You’re acting like this is the only tool in Hugo’s arsenal when I’m thinking it’d be a very situational trap utility. Characters would need to come back down to Earth eventually, and also since he’s in Marvel he could potentially have a version of shootdown backbreaker he could do in the air.

Regarding your tirade about Sentinel, Zangief doesn’t have any of that stuff either and yet you’re arguing for his inclusion over Hugo, Pretty great selective reasoning you’re showing here. Anyways, KaneBlueRiver showed that a team of big bodies can clean house in a game like Marvel, despite all the Vergils and Dooms and Phoenixes around. Honestly the only reason to not put Hugo in MVCI is because it’s MVCI, but he’d still have great potential in Marvel in general.

When did I say I was pulling for 'Gief. Last time I mentioned him, I merely said that he was viable in XvSF doesn’t mean I want him in the game.

And lets not downplay the fact that KBR won because of his skill, not because of his team. Saying otherwise is like saying that Alex is suddenly viable and that 3rd Strike isn’t imbalanced because Genki won with Alex against Boss’s Yun at Coop Cup GFs.

It was completely because of his team. Are you insane? You think he could’ve pulled that off with any other team? That’s the one he practiced the most.

In a lot of cases “viability” is about how you use the characters.

That doesn’t mean the team is any more viable than it is. One player mastering a character/team and winning with it does not magically move it up the tier list. Again, refer to the 3S, Coop Cup example.

[PSYCH0J0SH]

'Gief was mid/B tier XvSF going by both Shiro_420 and Dogface’s tier lists. Mid-tier, in a game where a character couldn’t be used just for their assist. Arguably better than Alex who won tournaments just because his assist made Zero even better.

-A completely invincible running super that goes across the whole screen and can be comboed out of

Doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll have the same properties here. I mean, look at Chun-Li’s Houyokusen super. You couldn’t necessarily combo out of it in every game it was in.

Besides, this isn’t much in a game where every super can theoretically be comboed out of.

-Not just an anti-air grab, but an INVINCIBLE REVERSAL anti-air grab, and an invincible reversal anti-air super. Zangief’s air grab isn’t shit compared to this.

Arguably worse since it’s a grab. Regular anti-air specials are already worse in Marvel due to the vertical space. A grab might have even less value since it can’t help serve as a lockdown that can be tagged out of.

-MASSIVE hitboxes that can poke people out from a great distance away. In a game like Marvel this could be used to confirm into combos from an unfair distance.

Probably not going to apply here since it seems we don’t have MvC3’s ridiculously large hit spheres and generous hitstun.

-Several moves with** hyper armor** that can close the distance or put people in the corner, like meat squasher and monster lariat.

Which are EXs, something this game does not natively have. And needing to have a unique system mechanic just to make a character work doesn’t speak much for said characters viability in the first place.

You’re really just grasping at straws to try and crap on the idea of Hugo being in the game, it’s retarded.

Obviously if Hugo is going to be in Marvel he’s going to have Marvel shit. He’d have his full-screen invincible super, he’d have his EX’s (which Chun and Viper had in UMVC3 so your excuse holds no weight at all). and his anti-air grab would obviously be used in trap situations instead of lockdown. Do something to force your opponent to jump, tag in Hugo, he gets his bone on.

Hugo’s anti-air grab would even be particularly useful in a tag burst mechanic. Your opponent traps you in an air combo, you spend the meters to tag in Hugo and anti-air grab them, free as fuck. He forces them to eat shit.

Chun didn’t need EXs to be high tier in MvC1, and it looks like she might not need them to be viable here either.

And jumping has never been as bad in Marvel as it is in SF. SF style anti-air tools, that were good in that series tend to become shit in Marvel thanks to super jumps and the series’ verticality. Historically, the best anti-airs in the series have always been either projectiles or beams. Stuff like Captain Corridor, or Gene Splice, or Molecular Shield, etc.

The way the series is designed as a whole is not friendly to traditional big bodies because you can’t just walk your opponents down and make them pay, not when they can just super jump out of the way. Look at the only “big body” who ever became god tier. Sentinel was good because it didn’t play like a traditional big body. Instead, you got the robot flying up all over the place and using his mobility. He was basically a giant sized pixie. Look at how they balanced Sent in MvC3 - they took away some of his speed and mobility from 2. No longer could it just fly around, control the air, and give everyone else the big boot. Even without the health nerf, Sent would have probably been overshadowed by the same characters that dominate MvC3 now.

Now you’re just moving the goalposts, changing your argument to “all anti-airs are useless unless they’re projectiles that go straight upwards”. You’re acting like this is the only tool in Hugo’s arsenal when I’m thinking it’d be a very situational trap utility. Characters would need to come back down to Earth eventually, and also since he’s in Marvel he could potentially have a version of shootdown backbreaker he could do in the air.

Regarding your tirade about Sentinel, Zangief doesn’t have any of that stuff either and yet you’re arguing for his inclusion over Hugo, Pretty great selective reasoning you’re showing here. Anyways, KaneBlueRiver showed that a team of big bodies can clean house in a game like Marvel, despite all the Vergils and Dooms and Phoenixes around. Honestly the only reason to not put Hugo in MVCI is because it’s MVCI, but he’d still have great potential in Marvel in general.

When did I say I was pulling for 'Gief. Last time I mentioned him, I merely said that he was viable in XvSF doesn’t mean I want him in the game.

And lets not downplay the fact that KBR won because of his skill, not because of his team. Saying otherwise is like saying that Alex is suddenly viable and that 3rd Strike isn’t imbalanced because Genki won with Alex against Boss’s Yun at Coop Cup GFs.

It was completely because of his team. Are you insane? You think he could’ve pulled that off with any other team? That’s the one he practiced the most.

In a lot of cases “viability” is about how you use the characters.

That doesn’t mean the team is any more viable than it is. One player mastering a character/team and winning with it does not magically move it up the tier list. Again, refer to the 3S, Coop Cup example.

Uh huh.

So remind me again, this whole argument is predicated on your idea that Hugo would be shit if he got in, right? And so far you’ve only used completely anecdotal and circumstantial evidence as to why this would be the case, and then did nothing to counteract the real examples where you got proven wrong. So tell me why Hugo can’t be good again? And tell me why it matters if he isn’t? I know you don’t know much about making games, but no character is designed to deliberately be crap. It’s a crap shoot where they fall on the tier placement after they get announced. The whole purpose of Hugo is to give an alternative to the other grapplers that have appeared.

[flicky]

'Gief was mid/B tier XvSF going by both Shiro_420 and Dogface’s tier lists. Mid-tier, in a game where a character couldn’t be used just for their assist. Arguably better than Alex who won tournaments just because his assist made Zero even better.

-A completely invincible running super that goes across the whole screen and can be comboed out of

Doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll have the same properties here. I mean, look at Chun-Li’s Houyokusen super. You couldn’t necessarily combo out of it in every game it was in.

Besides, this isn’t much in a game where every super can theoretically be comboed out of.

-Not just an anti-air grab, but an INVINCIBLE REVERSAL anti-air grab, and an invincible reversal anti-air super. Zangief’s air grab isn’t shit compared to this.

Arguably worse since it’s a grab. Regular anti-air specials are already worse in Marvel due to the vertical space. A grab might have even less value since it can’t help serve as a lockdown that can be tagged out of.

-MASSIVE hitboxes that can poke people out from a great distance away. In a game like Marvel this could be used to confirm into combos from an unfair distance.

Probably not going to apply here since it seems we don’t have MvC3’s ridiculously large hit spheres and generous hitstun.

-Several moves with** hyper armor** that can close the distance or put people in the corner, like meat squasher and monster lariat.

Which are EXs, something this game does not natively have. And needing to have a unique system mechanic just to make a character work doesn’t speak much for said characters viability in the first place.

You’re really just grasping at straws to try and crap on the idea of Hugo being in the game, it’s retarded.

Obviously if Hugo is going to be in Marvel he’s going to have Marvel shit. He’d have his full-screen invincible super, he’d have his EX’s (which Chun and Viper had in UMVC3 so your excuse holds no weight at all). and his anti-air grab would obviously be used in trap situations instead of lockdown. Do something to force your opponent to jump, tag in Hugo, he gets his bone on.

Hugo’s anti-air grab would even be particularly useful in a tag burst mechanic. Your opponent traps you in an air combo, you spend the meters to tag in Hugo and anti-air grab them, free as fuck. He forces them to eat shit.

So if Hugo was in Marvel he’d have all that Marvel shit, but if Zangief was in the game he wouldn’t? Lol wtf are you talking about? Incoherent rambling.

[ES_Curse]

“real examples” (goes into speculation)

[DevilJin_01]

KBRS team basically sends Hulk pretty nicely up the tier list. Hulk is a very difficult to TOD big body character with meterless TODs on that team off everything including air throws. Hulk is a character that does far better in neutral and vs zoning than people were admitting at the time. This is a character that Vergil has to respect and he usually doesn’t have to respect any one other than Dark Phoenix. He’s also generally top tier on point at the round start because he has a ton of options to beat button pressing at the start of rounds that’s typically tough to beat from characters like Magneto and Wolverine on point. The amount of thinking you have to do to land a clean hit on Hulk strapped with lariat and drones assist is nearly quantum theory worthy. While the thought process for that team landing a hit on you is nowhere near as involved.

The team doesn’t change Haggar or Sents tier much, but Hulk essentially becomes top tier or very close to it on that team IMHO. Then if they die, Haggar and Sent can still handle themselves.

[d3v]

I feel like I’m arguing with a 12 year old kind posting on GameFAQs. Just because one player does well with a team/character does not mean that the character/team in question automatically moves up the tier list. Their problems don’t magically go away. All that happens is that the one player in question masters the characters enough to get over said problems and issues.

And no, nobody designs a character to be bad (not unless they’re named Dan), but that doesn’t mean that every character can be made good. There are limits imposed by stuff, like the characters existing design (for veterans and those coming in from other fighting games), and even their archetype. On the last bit, Capcom style big body grapplers have always been hard to get right, because they tend to be the type that feel strong at the start - because all their damage is easily achieved, but that means that they tend to have their space for creativity limited, simply because of the threat of them being too strong. And that’s just in traditional, SF games. It gets even worse in the Versus series, because their traditional archetype - having to walk their opponents down, and pay with life, doesn’t really work in the Versus series.

[DevilJin_01]

I feel like I’m arguing with a 12 year old kind posting on GameFAQs. Just because one player does well with a team/character does not mean that the character/team in question automatically moves up the tier list. Their problems don’t magically go away. All that happens is that the one player in question masters the characters enough to get over said problems and issues.

And no, nobody designs a character to be bad (not unless they’re named Dan), but that doesn’t mean that every character can be made good. There are limits imposed by stuff, like the characters existing design (for veterans and those coming in from other fighting games), and even their archetype. On the last bit, Capcom style big body grapplers have always been hard to get right, because they tend to be the type that feel strong at the start - because all their damage is easily achieved, but that means that they tend to have their space for creativity limited, simply because of the threat of them being too strong. And that’s just in traditional, SF games. It gets even worse in the Versus series, because their traditional archetype - having to walk their opponents down, and pay with life, doesn’t really work in the Versus series.

That’s why I do think KBR Hulk is essentially top tier or close to it. That team breaks most of the traditional issues that Hulk has. Originally he had to get rid of a strong neutral assist in order to OTG, but with drones he can now take up neutral space and use specials to fight through zoning. Which combined with his health means he can make more mistakes vs zoning, land a hit and then still win the game with meterless TODs. KBR Hulk has pseudo 300 percent possibilities if your first character dies since most characters can’t survive his meterless combos after incoming that include pure guess 50 50 and command grab setups unto TODs. The success rate on KBR Hulk incoming mix ups is absurdly high to the point where it can be almost considered unblockable

[ES_Curse]

Counting Vanilla, Haggar has won EVO more times than anyone not named Vergil or Doctor Doom. Respect the damn pipe!

[willseless]

Haggar was on the datamine list. Arguing about big bodies is pointless. I wonder if Venom will be the Marvel big body other than Hulk. Nemesis-Venom could be a pair based on symbiosis and tentacles, and Haggar-Hulk be muscle dudes. Or Nemesis-Hulk for giant fucks and Haggar-Thor for grapples. The former is more interesting imo.

[Sevans]

All this talk of KBR winning EVO makes my head shudder; I will not miss UMvC3 at all.

You guys are forgetting the primary reason Hugo shouldn’t be in Marvel: He’s a stupid fucking character and doesn’t deserve to be anything other than a disposable thug in Final Fight.

[WorstPlayer]

Honestly, while KBR won in the latter part of UMVC3’s lifespan and from what I’ve seen he’s kind of a scrotum. His win with a big body team is pretty historical in fighting game history. How many majors are won with a Big Body character in general (much less 3 of them) As a big body player he earned that shit.

[The_Shakunetsu]

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Capcom side
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Nostalgia Fighters characters

Mech Akuma = (Capcom’s Terminator) Obviously not the same with Boss Cyber Akuma other than visuals and not also too similar with UMVC3 Akuma.

He gets flight mode. His Tenmakujinkyaku returns to XvS/MvS multi hit style, He retains his electric tatsu, srk, teleport and double air hadouken but has no regular hadoken instead gets a slow start up version the Shakunetsu Hadouken 3 hit. while his D,FD,F+P command is now Homing Rocket Fist a short range homing projectile that returns to Cyber Akuma arm. LP for Diagonal Upward and HP for Horizontal Forward.

His super are no longer beams instead change into barrage of rocket/missile like his Gou Agyo in UMVC3.

Others

Devilot that plays with the combination of Trone Bonne in MVC and Doronjo in TVC

Plasma Sword Rep = Jun/Saturn Dyer that plays like Yatterman-1 in TVC

Mech Zangief - Yeah another of the exclusive street fighter in the crossover series

Power Stone Rep = Rouge probably unique playstyle
Rival School Rep = Shoma the baseball bat guy, better than batsu
Warzard Rep = Hauzer Unique movesets
Vampire Savior Rep = Adult Anita What if Character in VS combination of Donovan, MSH Anita and Mariah in JJBA
Ruby Heart = Nostalgia Character
Ingrid = Fan demands

[YawDan]

… KBR’s team was high tier, at least when judging from the team combinations we’ve seen (there was about 1.6m possible combinations or so). While characters individual tiers and inherent tools did have it’s place, the fact it is a team game not only means that characters individual ability wasn’t that significant, but the way in which they were used could make them transcend their tiering.

Chun Li was (lower) mid at best, especially if you just consider her range and damage output. But utilize her runaway capabilities, conversions of practically every situation (barring situational solo superjump height and ground throws) and infinites, you have a top tier team when used with Morrigan’s Dark Harmonizer and Jean in the back (yes RyanLV’s team is one of the best in the game. **** you talking 'bout).

If I wasn’t a character loyalist… or perhaps more appropriately- if I am bothered to even play Infinite, I would be leaning towards two beam characters (likely Strange and Ultron). Haggar would be good up close and for tags off his lariat, if it maintains its upperbody invincibility… if he’s in the game (from the leak track record it’s not even speculation at this point- it’s reveals).

Though at this point, I’m more concerned about how to use the games mechanics (e.g gems) and tag system to make a character viable, rather than their inherent strengths.

[Magegg]

What’s receiving worst feedback? Marvel Vs Capcom: Infinite, or the Inhumans TV series trailer?

Capcom should include the TV version of the Inhumans as new functions replacing those of the X-Men characters.

Then the Internet would explode.

[The_Shakunetsu]

Capcom should include the TV version of the Inhumans as new functions replacing those of the X-Men functions.

Fixed

[YawDan]

What’s receiving worst feedback? Marvel Vs Capcom: Infinite, or the Inhumans TV series trailer?

Capcom should include the TV version of the Inhumans as new functions replacing those of the X-Men characters.

Then the Internet would explode.

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Never new about the Inhumans trailer. To be honest, when I found out they decided to drop the Inhumans film in place of a TV series, and with how they resolved IvX, I figured they lost faith in the Inhumans. So I’m not surprised the trailer is getting bad feedback. Although I will say the criticisms of Infinite have been trivial- upset over graphics, not the gameplay. And most of the complainers aren’t even Marvel players anyway to even begin with)

I would have liked Medusa, Karnak and Blackbolt to have appeared in Infinite. Although I hate the Inhumans as a collective.

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Edit: [details=Spoiler] just watched the trailer. Professor Thorgi did say Inhumans were GOT in space. I didn’t have too many issues other than Blackbolt’s voice seeming to have been nerfed[/details]