MvC 3 Netcode

simply put, the netcode in this game is TERRIBLE. People with whom I had FLAWLESS connections in SSF4 are giving me such a bad input lag it gets difficult to do the most simple air combos. Shit even moving around the screen gets difficult, and don’t even get me started on tri jumps.

Please capcom do something about this, don’t wanna go back to SSF4

PSN is running fine. It seems people on XBL are having issues… Hmmmmm

I was playing online today… No lag, but the input delay is noticable… I mean I got really upset when I lost my 38 win streak because of input delay. The combo’s I tried to do didn’t come out, so instead of doing a hadoken, I would do a tiger knee move. It’s like I have to adapt to the delay… Play ahead instead of playing in the moment… Basically timing turns into button mashing. Marvel Vs Capcom 2 I had no problems with… The netcode was godlike… For a game that fast and Magneto combos and what not… It was great.

I don’t know why these fucking companies want to make these 3D games! I mean Marvel 3 looks great and plays great, but that’s offline. Why wouldn’t they just leave it in 2D?

so i spent about 80 bucks on the limited edition got home played offline was pretty fun, i go online and there’s noticeable lag, i can’t even do air combos sometimes when i can do it every single time in single player… I’m pretty disappointed, also the rank matches take a while, it’s retarded. Sometimes it will say searching with no cancel and sometimes it will say searching with a cancel button after a few seconds so right away you cancel and search again before it gives you cannot find player and sends you back to the menu… I’m sort of mad, i’ve so far played 1 game that almost felt perfect.

this is on the PS3.

This right here is the problem with threads like these. You say there’s no lag, but there’s input delay…Input delay IS lag! It’s pretty evident that a lot people don’t know what lag is.

No that can be latency as well.
Your post is the problem here, people not understanding what netcode actually does.

Im on XBL and its pretty great so far.Im in europe but have pretty solid connections with most USA players(noticeable more delay than other Euros, but still not bad at all actually) I have had the occasional laggy player, but its always obviously just been them. Have noticed lots of people with closed ports though :frowning:

Lag | Define Lag at Dictionary.com

any noticeable input delay (more than 1 frame), freezing or skipping during a match is lag. High latency means you’ll have more input delay, meaning you’ll lag more AKA input delay is lag.

As it is right now, everyone playing online is lagging even if you don’t know it. Play online and then play offline, if you notice any difference at all in timing then you’re lagging online. This is exactly how T6 was when it first came out.

If that’s how you define lag, then ALL online gaming has lag. even with a perfect netcode and perfect online play, there will always be input latency.

^^^ yes, and thats why people want rollback code, it hides input delay and makes it feel much closer to offline.

wow, motherfuckers dont know that input delay = lag. no wonder so many people say that there is no lag.

-dime

Tha’ts not just how I define lag, it’s how anyone with common sense defines lag. Every game online has lag. I thought SF4 was bad, but MVC3 takes the cake.

Exactly. That’s probably another reason why capcom is so slow to deal with the problem. People claim they aren’t lagging, when they are but don’t know it.

With ggpo or rollback style netcode, you’re probably going to have 1-2 frames of input delay with the sacrafice of the game skipping. I’d much rather have that than what we have now, for the simple fact that you don’t get the skipping effect if you play people in your region. Anyways, i don’t think this complaining is going to do much good now. The game is already out there, just have to make sure capcom knows this is unacceptable for their next game.

lol if you still think, in the year 2011, that scamcom japan is ever going to shit out a game with acceptable netcode

I’ve only played 14 Ranked Matches online and they range from alright to pretty laggy. Especially on the SHIELD ship stage.

Of the 200-250+ Player Matches I’ve played so far against friends who live locally (30-40 minutes way) the connection has been solid. Not 100% perfect but a lot better than searching for random Ranked (when searching for same region)

I seem to be having a similar experience to others: decent matches when I can get them, but matchmaking is fucked.

Same
English
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isnt working anymore.

XBL should just ban people with closed ports

That’s been rather annoying. I’ve been using the “search lobby” feature, though. Still, I hope that gets fixed. I remember SSFIV having that issue as well.

I don’t have the best connection of all time, it’s actually pretty shitty. My roommate was watching videos in the other room and I still only had slight input delay. Couldn’t even dream of doing this in SSF4, because the connection would drop left and right, and it would kick me off of PSN. Near flawless online for MvC3 on my end again with a slight delay, but nothing where I felt like I couldn’t pull off Team Air combos, because I was. Player Match, Ranked and creating lobbies near flawless for me as well. I just want that spectator mode.

ggpo doesnt hide input delay. It gets rid of it as in there is no input delay unless you set a few extra fixed frames for smoother rollback. HUGE DIFFERENCE compared to a netcode that uses input delay to deal with latency. Especially if it’s variable input delay.

and yea don’t be surprised people don’t know what lag is. How many posts have you seen of people saying sf4/ssf4 netcode is amazing, etc. You just gotta accept the fact that those people are either scrubs or idiots. srs

I’m amazed people think lag and input delay have no relation.

enough about input vs lag-delay

we need to get back to the matter at hand

I have a 2% chance of finding a match online

HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS!?!!?

Setting to English doesn’t work any longer QQ

Offline quality it is not, it never is. I was hoping for something a little better though.

Shit I can do offline no problem is a chore online. I got some sick Doom stuff but getting his air dash cancels combos is proving arduous online. Still fun but it could be a lot more fun with less lag.

Mostly been playing against my boys from the east coast though. Hopefully I can get near lag free gameplay against fellow west coasters.