Music Producers Thread v 3.0

I would. I mean, ultimately it all depends on how good of a rapper you are. If you suck, then I’d just dump the file. If you are good then I wouldn’t mind play around with it. Just rap over one of your favorite beats into a mic while its plays on the headphones. Give me the BPM (or the track you rapped over if you don’t know). I’m always looking for new rappers to work with.

Well understanding exactly what fruity loops IS first is the most important thing in learning how to use it. It’s basically a sequencer that allows you to do the actual creation of the melody and drums. Played notes or sample cuts are ordered to get the melody that you want, and the drums are done the same way. If you’re trying to use a sample…well FL can’t actually cut them into the pieces you need (unless there’s a chop plugin I don’t know about) and it only has stock sounds for your drums which you NEVER want to use. So if you’re sampling you need two other programs…that is Audition (Adobe) and a program called Recyle. Audition is to cut the part out of a song you want to use and Recycle is to make them into cuts that you can sequence the way you want to in FL.

Now if you use a MIDI, then that’s a different story and don’t even fuck with FL, use Reason.

No, not really. FL Studio is a pattern based sequencer. Also, Fruity Slicer does exactly what you’re talking about–cut a sample into pieces for manipulation purposes, so it’s fine for that sort of purpose, too. As of version 7, it even comes with its own wave editor, so there’s no reason to bring up Audition–although it’s fine to use an external wave editor, but Audition is far from the only option. Try wavosaur. It’s free and perfectly capable for those sorts of purposes. And if you have FL after version 6, then Recycle is pretty much redundant. Also there are a number of slicing plugins that one could use.

I don’t even know what that last line means at all.

Does FL studio allow you to choose an instrument and play it using a normal computer keyboard? Or do you need a midi keyboard for that?

You can use your PC keyboard.

Heh…I’m starting to make the adjustment to FL studio from reason…been on it for about 2 weeks now. The slicer is different to me…here’s this beat I’ve been trying to work on but

a.) I wanna make the intro make an echo effect to come in…but iuno how to do that on the end of it alone…I also wanna do that with the chorus, but iuno how yet

b.)I have hella percussion sounds and drums…but not that many actual instruments and original sounds, so I feel like I have to sample until I find some real stock audio

Anybody got any feedback? I like the direction of the beat, but I dunno how to execute it with fl Studio…

-Fritz:sweat:

Im sorry to the person who pm’d me about flstudio and being able to play the keyboard. Yes you are able to do it, but I just don’t know how heh.

I accidently deleted your specific pm while trying to clean out my box.

Link’s not working. :frowning:

This may be a personal preference, but you should use chopped breaks for drums.
The beat randomly slows down for the shirley bassey vocal sample. Comes out of know where, ends too abruptly. That only works in a nice smooth transition, which it isn’t. Usually vocals like that, are used as a break in a song, as you did later in the song.

I don’t use FL, but you should be able to put some kind of delay/echo on the end of the sample.

Personally I would drop the small vocal drops and change the drums.

heh, been sampling for about a week now…but that sounds like good advice! so you think I should just re-chop the beat and use a different part of the beat when the vocals? Cause usually I have somebody else chop it for me and I add the drums, but I figured I might as well start learning to chop shit up myself.

But I don’t understand what you mean when you said I should use chopped breaks for drums. Plus all my producer friends that I’ve been fuckin with are off to college (thus the reason I’m learning to chop myself). Could you elaborate further?

-Fritz:sweat:

first thing i’ve ever made, dont laugh =(

Couple questions, do you need extra hardware to use programs like FL and Reason?

I’m using a Keyboard on Line-In with Cool Edit assist to record, so I can only do everything by hand on keyboard. But I would like to use samples and stuff like everyone else.

yeah jeremy ellis is…AWESOME.

i have his album if anyone is interested…and a lot of broken beat/nu jazz music. if anyone wants to trade files.

As for hardware, it’s always good to have more ram and it’s not bad to have a fast processor. Your song wasn’t bad for someone who just started. The flaws that I can point out are:

-It’s too loud, you want your mixes to be soft and not loud. I notice some distortion so I assume you over compressed or you made the mix reall loud
-Instruments are competing against each other, you want to start cutting frequencies.
-Too short that I can’t judge a thing

Wow never knew this thread existed. Good shit from everyone so far.

Anyone use Ableton Live for recording vocals/sequencing? I’ve messed around with it and I’m liking the features, but I’m having a big issue with it’s input latency.

I run my mic from a preamp directly into my computer’s mic input. My computer specs are:

AMD X2 2.6ghz CPU with 2 gb of ram

I’ve tried adjusting the latency options within Ableton to the lowest possible settings but still there is noticeable latency.

I was thinking that I’d need a new sound card but I wanna be sure first, or it may be my audio drivers. Any ideas?

I should of explained myself better. Sorry. Drum breaks are usually a part in a song, where the music has been broken down (ceased), and drums are just played or maybe with bass. But for the most part, the ones I use are just drums.

I usually take drum breaks from old songs, but i’ve used them from newer songs.
Anyways once you have the loop, you can chop it up piece by piece if you want or keep it as a loop.

For an easy example. The drums in Nas’ “I can” are from “Impeach the President”.

You can find a whole bunch of drum breaks from different websites, drum break cds, cds, and other sources, or your own source(Vinyl).

The reason I recommend drum breaks, because they fit better with samples. Samples are usually from older songs they use real instruments. So ideally, real drums go with it as well. Not everyone owns different drum sets, nor do they have the time or knowledge or equipment to mix/master drums to a specific sound. There for one could use breaks. Alot of them have that old recorded sound that goes great with an old sample sound. Make sense? I hope.

I guess the easiest way is to search drum breaks samples on google and see what happens. I don’t know any websites, but I could search for some to see what I could find.

What you want to do with the beat is up to you. I would recommend chopping up the sample yourself, and playing around with it. Its a great song (like most shirley bassey songs), but could be tough. You have a nice foundation with the horns though.

I’m not a sampling expert by no means, but I have some knowledge, and a decent ear for good music. Have fun and go at it. I might actually try flipping that sample later if I have anytime. If I do, I’ll upload it.

…wait. Pleeeeeease tell me you meant to say “line input.” There is no reason whatsoever ot use a mic input on a standard sound card if you have a preamp. It only adds noise.

Also, for lowest latency, always use ASIO drivers. to reduce latency, set it at a lower buffer setting. If your card doesn’t have native ASIO drivers, download ASIOforAll drivers and use those.

How do I get that analog warmth in my digital tracks? For now, I’ve been using distortion, tape saturation simulation fx, and compression and they’ve been working fine for me, I just want to know if there are other methods.

thx for the feedback, and yeah I noticed during playback that the DB level was in the red, I had to change my line-in/wav volumes and I think it’s fixed.

I still don’t have that ‘crisp’ sound though, do I need a better sound card?

I was thinkin about making D’n’B music hmm I probably should I play many instruments…

That ‘crisp’ sound comes with good knowledge of compression and EQ…more eq imo. Your ears still need to get used to it, to learn how EQ works is through trial and error. There are tons of tutorials online. Remember that cutting is usually more important than boosting. The biggest tip I can give you is to shelf anything that’s not a kick or bass @ 120. Reason being is that at that range, both the kick and bass dominate the feely parts and you don’t want anything else touching that part because it’s going to be one big feely mess. Be sure to keep your mixes soft, you don’t want your mixes to be super loud; do that when you master. As for your soundcard, I mix fine on my on board soundcard. I THINK a soundcard is only usefull if you’re thinking of buying hardware, and if you want better latency.