Most boring/hated stretches of generally good games

[samuraicup]

-FF8, after beating bahamut when you go down to fight ultima weapon. I remember coming home from school one day and told myself I would just play a hour or so and then do homework or something. Well fuck it, you get into a fight every step you fucking take down the stairs, and if you have diablo equipped its every 2 steps. Literally took the rest of the day to get down the stairs, only to find out the save spot can only be seen if you had another summon equiped? Thankfully selphie(?)has the end.

Junction 100 Deaths to your weapon.

[Return_of_Shiki]

and the game as a whole felt more scrubby/less technical.

WTF?

I felt in KH1 I actually controlled/knew/had to think about…what I was doing.

Double WTF?

Kingdom Hearts has by far the dumbest, scrubbiest, mash friendly gameplay out of ANY action RPG I’ve ever played.

[BeaTs]

WTF?

Double WTF?

Kingdom Hearts has by far the dumbest, scrubbiest, mash friendly gameplay out of ANY action RPG I’ve ever played.

if you actually understood my post…you’d understand I’m only speaking comparatively. (in case you still don’t understand…between KH1 and KH2)

in KH, it actually didn’t have to be mashy…you still could/had to time stuff. and plenty of fights were not dumb (sephy for example).

but then going to KH2…that’s when I felt truly mashy and so then it also fault truly dumb/scrubby. Like, I don’t even know what I’m doing, whatever it is takes 0 timing, and sora is just spinning around and shit and shit’s flying out here and there.

[System_1]

Doesn’t Diablos have a “No Encounter” ability?

Yes, but it only reduces encounters from every step to every two three steps. Junctioning Death helps make everything go faster, but it’s still a lot of fights.

[Radiantsilvergun3]

if you actually understood my post…you’d understand I’m only speaking comparatively. (in case you still don’t understand…between KH1 and KH2)

in KH, it actually didn’t have to be mashy…you still could/had to time stuff. and plenty of fights were not dumb (sephy for example).

but then going to KH2…that’s when I felt truly mashy and so then it also fault truly dumb/scrubby. Like, I don’t even know what I’m doing, whatever it is takes 0 timing, and sora is just spinning around and shit and shit’s flying out here and there.

I dunno I feel like KHII is more technical in some aspects and more scrubby in others. I have more fun with two cause it doesn’t have auto combos and I can see whats going on and I just didn’t find KH1s levels and horrendous platforming charming enough to go back to it to many times. I really enjoy doing low level runs in KHII though.

[BeaTs]

i’d still take 1 over 2…I’ve spoken with other players, and they agreed that yeah…2 is more mashy/scrubby…but probably in just that whole combat aspect the game is meh. I’ll watch videos of people playing, and I just see sora changing colors, flying around and spinning and shit is just happening. meh

maybe if they didn’t have that retarded roxas part at the beginning, I’d give it another chance. (my ps2 mem card was stolen)

aside from those 2 things that stood out to me about 2, I vaguely remember there was some other stuff I didn’t like. Like…I think they did something with the gummi ship part that I hated (I liked gummi ship in part 1)

[Septimus_Prime]

Yeah, I find the ship segments in the Ratchet & Clank games to be boring, too. It just feels like a different game entirely, and it takes away from the rest of the game. I feel the same way about forced vehicle segments of just about every game?like the Gummi Ship parts of Kingdom Hearts and everything about the new Zelda games.

[Radiantsilvergun3]

I don’t like the Gummy ship in either game honestly but it was better in KH1. I was actually able to build a ship in that after fighting the build a ship system for some hous. Never managed to actually create anything in KHII but really the Gummy Ship sucks in both games in my opinion. Shit it didn’t even get ok in KH1 until the end of the game when you could at least build a ship worth a damn.

[BeaTs]

yeah, I understand why most hate the gummi ship but I loved it sooo much except in KH2

FFX: most of the sphere/aeon puzzles were alright…but I vaguely remember the Shiva one and the Bahamut one being pain’s in the ass.

[Grog]

Are you thinking of something from an Alfheim Challenge, or our friends Grace & Glory, and Gracious/Glorious? G&G can be hit anytime you want…except with the bullets; I’ve noticed they seem to block that. I’ve always fought them with Shuraba(heh, that’s my main Weapon of Choice anyway), and that will hit them without Witch Time being necessary. I’ve also found that blocking with the Moon accessory is absolutely The Shit when it comes to dealing with those guys. Slash,slash,slash get ready to block…there’s the hit! BLOCKED slash, slash slash, etc. heh, fighting them is such fun to me. Even though I’ve gained the upperhand lately since I can consistently block the hits, it’s still a thrilling battle each time.

Speaking of particular enemies though…this reminds me:
-The Pouilly Slime from Phantasy Star Online. <–Garbage. This is one of the most annoying regular enemies I’ve ever dealt with in a game. For those that are unfamiliar, here’s the rundown: They show up as a puddle of slime. They cannot hurt you while in this form, but you also can’t hurt them. They eventually morph up into an oddly shaped creature that tries to hit you one time, either with a slash or a spit-projectile. They will only do this one time, then they fall back into puddle form. If you didn’t attack…woops, now you have to wait as it slides around the floor for awhile, completely invincible to everything…you have to wait for it to morph and attack again. If you do attack, it’s the same deal; Pouilly becomes a puddle again, so you STILL have to wait for awhile before you can hit the damn thing a second time.

Oho but that’s not all. See, that would only be mildly annoying, imo. The projectile or whatever weird little non-melee attack they do…it can spawn another Pouilly Slime! So, 1 Pouilly can spawn a room full of them…which will obviously take a long as time to kill because of how the combat scenario involving them plays out. But wait, there’s more! Certain attacks can also split the Pouilly into extra Slimes…so this is yet another way it can multiply. I think heavy sword attacks were one factor, and magic can split the slimes as well. Fortunately, I think there’s a random aspect of how/why that happens…so it’s not going on all the time.

My solution: Cheap shit. I remember the days of hacked “1304” MAGs that were way more powerful than what the game normally allows. Yeah, I had a few of those…usually, I’d pull out the hacked mag or some godlike weapon to make sure the thing is killed in 1 hit. Cheapness saves the day. Man, to think there were actually people who purposely split the Pouillys in hopes of finding the rare Red Slime to get whatever rare item/weapon it occasionally drops…crazy. I don’t see how even the hardcore PSO fans put up with that.

I remember those, I had a friend that would actually keep splitting them until the red would appear and it killed me. I think the best thing he’s ever gotten it to drop was a very common “rare” sword, can’t remember it’s name but I remember it dropped more often than anything else I swear, and when that dropped from one he gave up

[Vynce]

I thought GTAIV was largely awful, come to think of it. Nothing about it impressed me, and I didn’t have actual fun at any point while playing it.

[k4polo]

One of my main is Seth in SFIV but getting him was a pain and very boring. I not too much into story of fighting games either.
So beating it with everyone was very tedious and boring.

[Tech_Romancer]

SFIV was very tedious and boring.

Fixed for you.

The thread said GOOD games.

That said, the Big levels on Sonic Adventure. Its…different but ultimately I just want to get back to the other stages. They’re all faster, and even the knuckles search stages allow you to fly around and explore more. Obviously, the Sonic and Tails segments are best, with the Amy ones behind; she’s not as purely fast but its interesting being a “weak” character for once and being chased by the zero series.

[Cryoh]

yeah, I understand why most hate the gummi ship but I loved it sooo much except in KH2

FFX: most of the sphere/aeon puzzles were alright…but I vaguely remember the Shiva one and the Bahamut one being pain’s in the ass.

That Shiva puzzle was dumb because of the horrible camera angle that hid the optimal sliding solution. Having to go upstairs to the computer, log into AOL (sigh), look up the solution, then go back to the PS2 just killed the good vibes that the game was putting out.

The Zanarkand one wasn’t fun either. Just tedious, since you needed a piece of graphing paper to write down where the tetris pieces were.

[Return_of_Shiki]

if you actually understood my post…you’d understand I’m only speaking comparatively. (in case you still don’t understand…between KH1 and KH2)

BOTH of which are horrible, mashy, dumbed-down, Action RPGs.

Your point being?

[Hatred_Edge]

That Shiva puzzle was dumb because of the horrible camera angle that hid the optimal sliding solution. Having to go upstairs to the computer, log into AOL (sigh), look up the solution, then go back to the PS2 just killed the good vibes that the game was putting out.

The Zanarkand one wasn’t fun either. Just tedious, since you needed a piece of graphing paper to write down where the tetris pieces were.

What? FFX was so easy you didn’t need a guide for anything aside from finding the other Aeons and those Al Bhed Primers. Zanarkand was cake.

[Zulu]

I thought GTAIV was largely awful, come to think of it. Nothing about it impressed me, and I didn’t have actual fun at any point while playing it.

I think that the problem with GTA 4 was that San Andreas was too good of a game and IV could never live up to San Andreas. Which isn’t to say that I didn’t like IV but San Andreas as too epic.

[Biolink]

Somebody’s probably mentioned it by now, but the Job missions from the First No More Heroes were tedious.

I’d just do the same Assassination Jobs over, and over again and try to do them faster each time to make it more interesting

[BeaTs]

BOTH of which are horrible, mashy, dumbed-down, Action RPGs.

Your point being?

the point being that I was comparing the too. and there was definitely a difference and plenty of instances where dumb mashing didn’t get you anywhere in KH1 (like seph fight for example). Everyone got it, except for you.

What? FFX was so easy you didn’t need a guide for anything aside from finding the other Aeons and those Al Bhed Primers. Zanarkand was cake.

umm, that’s exactly what we’re talking about. the aeons part. LOL

[FluffyM]

I thought GTAIV was largely awful, come to think of it. Nothing about it impressed me, and I didn’t have actual fun at any point while playing it.

That. I had similar feelings playing Mass Effect 1 for 3 hours and spending 60% of that time in elevators.

Also, every unskippable, mandatory tutorial-mission in any game ever.