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DA Cant possibly be a competitive worth game
fuck the graphics,
gameplay is everything and that game is broken
UMK3 and MK2 are the only ones worth mentioning in the series
Oh, so me saying Deadly Alliance is good makes my post full of shit? What does make a good game then? A huge roster, like Deception or Armageddon but with excluded moves and generic fatalities? Or, dial-a-combo madness, like Trilogy and MK3 iterations, but lousy gameplay?
Not to mention Deadly Alliance got way much more attention than the games that followed combined. One should consider that if DA was not a favorite (it even saved Midway from bankruptcy once), Deception and Armageddon wouldnât even exist today.
And, go ask someone whoâs actually got some fighting games experience, instead of acting elite all day on a discussion thread.
@ J.D - Iâm not talking about graphics, but about gameplay. And DA has a huge disadvantage when it comes to 2D MKs, since it had no arcade port, so it isnât really known that much for competitiveness.
Real talk: Are you *serious *right now?
It depends on what you want out of your game. If youâre looking for high level competitive play, the majority of the stuff you listed does not matter at all. Fatalities were just a gimmick to draw in kids. Graphics have never mattered. Roster only matters in terms of balance issues. More important things are if thereâs a ton of glitches and exploits (which DA has). The game never caught on 'cause the game was bad. It wasnât meant to be played as a high level competitive game. It was meant to be a mindless action fighter that you could waste time on and have some fun with. Which is what most video games aspire to be.
Itâs not even in the same ballpark as MK2 though. And trying to say it was better than Deception or Armageddon isnât helping things either since those games were also trash. Same with the new MK Vs. DC game.
OK, Iâm not going to continue with discussing MKDA.
Too bad though, I wouldâve liked to see MK2 @ EVO. I wonder whatâs the PSN version like, and how much good is the online mode going to do. Never got a chance to look at it, since PS Store is not supported in my end of the world.
duncan, iâm gonna say this real slow for you, so you can follow what i am saying:
S H U T
U P.
Iâm glad you like MK, but your âopinionsâ are making you sound like an ass. MKII isnt even EVO worthy. MKII isnt even major tourney worthy (I wish it was, but certainly not over UMK3. MKII is good, but more fun than good.
Oh, and MKDA is terrible. 2nd best of the 4 3d MKâs, yes, but thats only because MKD & MKA are of the 4.
Stop shouting off your OPINIONâS as FACTS, as they are 2 completely different things.
for the record, I know for a fact those guys know about the glitches, bugs, etc. And that they did work on a patch, but with Midwayâs financial problems, that patch may never be released. We should see the DLC soon, but I dont know if they can encorporate the patch through DLC. It costs too much money for Midway, which is sad.
Please shut up. Your embarassing us.
Theres no better feeling in the world than ripping someone apart with a fatality at the arcade and calling out a custom made name for the fatalityâŚ
UMK3
Sub-Zeros fatality: he picks you up and you get filled with ice then he breaks you in half, we used to call this one "cracking the egg"
Kung Lao: He spins like crazy until you get sucked in and turned to gibs, we called this "the blender"
He has the fatality where he throws his hats and you get chopped into little pieces, we called this "chopping the onions"
Shang Tsung: He lifts his arms and some spikes come from the ground, he throws you right into them, we used to call this "portable acupuncture"
Jax: when he gets really big and squashes you like a mosquito its called "stomping the yard"
Lui kang: if you do his dissapearing fatality at the end of the screen he wont reappear, so we used to call this âthe magicianâ or "asian fantasies"
Jade: when she puts you on a stick and shakes you like crazy we used to call it "shake n bake / shiscabob(sp)"
Reptile: when he eats you piece by piece we used to call it "hot pockets"
Stryker: when he electrocutes you its called "kfc"
Smoke: when he would knock your head off the body would stand with a slight slouch like a model that earned that fatality the name "the calvin klien collection"
Sheeva: when she smashes you into the ground its called âground beefâ
and this is my personal favorite, [media=youtube]g0XHM7k8-7M"[/media]
If my cousin would catch people with that, you would never hear the end of it.
Over xbox live we still from time to time go crazy with that game. <3
No, you being full of shit makes your posts full of shit.
MK sucks. Period. Donât use that âdevelopment cycleâ crap as an excuse.
FACT: Midway has had the MK franchise on a 2-year development cycle since The Grid was finished in 2000. They have done NOTHING to improve any major necessary aspect of the game in 2-years span. What was changed between DA and Deception? Oh, they added a stupid color bar that no one pays attention to, and combo breakers that forced you to either take damage to save them, or waste them all. Then they made Armageddon and added parries and bloated the roster to where itâs really MK Trilogy 2.
They DID NOT fix any of the glitches (hell, more showed up), the infinites offline and online (which were worse), recovery times that were unbalanced where it takes longer for you to recover from throwing a quick punch than it takes for your opponent to recover from blocking to retaliate, and the most unrealistic martial arts that have to be the slowest form of fighting Iâve ever seen.
Theyâve had two years between games to at least fix those issues, and they donât. They donât care. They sell the game on a gimmick, and this kind of horrible management and marketing combined with a bad product is one of the reasons theyâre in bankruptcy as we speak. PERIOD.
MK II was not fresh. It was MK1 enhanced. It mostly ran under the same set of rules that MK1 did. Nothing was âfreshâ about the game until MK3, and then it took a revision of that game to result in the one decent game theyâve developed. Then MK4 came along and ruined it.
Also, MKDA was NOT in development for five years. The MK team spent three years after MK4 developing The Grid. Then they spent two years on MKDA. And that was a serious step backward, NOT forward. It was a much slower mix of UMK3 and MK4. People forgave MKDA because it was assumed they wanted to do a lot more with it than the two years allowed them. It looked promising. It looked like Boon and Co. were actually trying. Then Deception came out and it was clear they werenât going to improve anything.
By the way, The Grid is loads better than any MK game to come after it. Why that isnât on console still baffles me.
Now, that is sad; I wasnât aware of this. Although what I was referring to was some comments in the Mk vs DC thread about the developers having those courtesy online matches and reports of the developers pretending they didnât exist/disregarding things like infinites in the fights.
Whatever.
Gaia are that way.
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SRK Never Fails Me :tup:
well, about the thread.
I really liked MK series until MK4, they changed so many things on the game⌠they got rid of all the good things.
My Favorites are MK2, and UMK3, MK2 had something that attracted me, i canât describe it⌠it had so many secrets, like Noob Saibot, Jade, Smoke Human and the legendary Fatality of Johnny Cage and heâs Triple Rip-Off head was amazing, weird but cool lol.
When MK3 was released, omg⌠Everyone near me bought that game! cousins, friends, brotherâs friends, uncles⌠seriously lol, on my B-Day everyone brought MK3 to play lol, we had easly like 5 cartridges.
and it was awesome! new characters, Animalitys, Brutalities, Friendships, it was crazy! but most of the animalities where hard as hell to do.
UMK3 was an even better game for me, the rooster was bigger, you could use Old Sub Zero and Smoke Human which was a rip off of Scorpion at first to me but a little different.
MK Trilogy was so fucked up, they had worse graphics, glitches everywhere, huge rooster for wrong reasons⌠Selectable Bosses? what what were they thinking -_-⌠i know Seth can be picked up on sf4, but man, Kintaro, Montaro and Goro arenât easy shit, they have more defense than Qâs with 3 taunts lol, just too broken.
I even have the PSX game of MK Trilogy (Greatest Hits), and the game freezes up after you beat it in Arcade Mode!!!, the game over screen appears and thatâs it, the game freezes!!!
I mean wtf⌠i need to restart the playstation to play again.
No comments on the ps2 games, never played them, and never will =/
MK being the first fighting game I ever played will always be amogst the awesome things of my youth. I think thatâs a reason a lot of people still secretly love MK. I was Scorpion, for Halloween when I was 12.
(nylon cord + plastic shovel tip = GET OVER HERE) Brother was Sub-zero same year, it was fucking on.
A lot of em are broken as shit but that doesnât stop MvC2⌠oh no, what have I said?
But then again MvC2 doesnât feel sloppy and chunky.
I hear talk Mortal Kombat franchise is up for bids⌠and then Capcom bought it and made MK vs Capcom vs Marvel vs DC and everybody came.
Dr. Manhattan is so fucking broken.
Iâm disagreeing with this. The OG MK was almost unplayable because it was so slow and linear. MK2 was quicker and had a lot more strategy for the characters, especially at high level play. I do agree, however, that they took the foundation of MK and improved it. Thatâs what all sequels should do. If they continued to do that over the years, we never would have had abominations like Armageddon and maybe Midway would not be ass-up right now.
Apparently I am in the minority in thinking MK2 was the best in the series though. All the love for UMK3 really surprises me.
Some people just donât understand. The MK2, and UMK3 âplayersâ know that all other MK games arenât that good. Even though the others can be fun, theyâre not very âgoodâ.
If UMK3 had half the players as SF3/SF4 has, UMK3 would be at EVO, major tournaments, etc. UMK3 is a very good, deep, competitive game. I donât expect any of you to know this though. It does have some broken aspects, but so does many other EVO games. And the fact that UMK3 plays soo much differently than every other 2D games, it lacks in players.
Anyway, UMK3 is the most fun fighting game Iâve played thus far. Not only fun but addicting, even though I donât play it much anymore.
This is how the MK games are in order from greatest to worst (not counting MKSM, etc):
UMK3 >> MKII >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MK3 >>>>>> MKT > MK4 > MKvsDC > MKDA > MKD > MKA > MK1
Would you admit since it is your favorite in the series that perhaps youâre a little biased too, however? I think it comes down to opinion.
EDIT: Probably location too. UMK3 never picked up around here. MK2 was pretty big.
No, itâs my âfavoriteâ because itâs the best in the series.
UMK3 being the best is not an opinion. UMK3 being the most fun is an opinion.
I disagree. It being the best IS an opinion. If it was a fact, I would not be able to disagree with it.