Using no super and no shift…2476 damage, 20 hits, assuming I started with a dash C. There is a way to get more damage but the timing is incredibly strict and not worth trying online.
For using one shift and one super, not sure…have to experiment. It’s obviously less than Othello and others though.
Edit: Might have misunderstood the question…are you referring to doing a combo, with a shift, but not using the super? If so, not sure, have to experiment, but I’m guessing I could probably do 3500 damage. The qcb+Bx2, hcf+A, hcf+A(other direction), repetitions can get some good damage, although require some fast hands.
Her ways of getting damage are more flexible than characters like Delga, who rely almost always on trying to land a throw. I really can’t agree on her being low tier. I’d probably put her higher than Delga.
And Xiii, running under opponents when they jump is very easy, especially in this game where jumpins are not that low (even with double jump) and not many things crossup. Of course, Maya suffers here with her really bad forward run/dash.
Another thing that needs to be considered about tier is lag. If the games are lagging, then scrubs get away with a lot of shit, such as mashing Othello’s braindead easy bnb combo. The “good” player might be trying to time their attacks, but if the game spikes, you will probably mistime something, and get hit by that Othello combo, because the one using Othello isn’t trying to time anything, he’s just mashing the crouch A. In laggy games, Othello and Delga could be top tier, but otherwise I can’t really see how (although I see that Othello has a great rushdown if you utilize his d+AB, which not many seem to use anyway).
But anyway, the reason I mention mashing othellos is that I fought some guy over a week ago would keep hitting the crouch A button no matter what I did…most of the time he’d get hit because Othello normals are slow, but if the game ever spiked (which was occassional), his normal would hit me first. It’s a perfect example of lag helping the masher, giving the illusion that Othello is good. In this sense, it is always worth dropping from the game if this happens.
What I meant was you start unshifted and you shift cancel and do 1 super during the combo. Although I’m also curious about already being shifted and still having 1 stock of super to use.
I usually don’t use only one super in a combo, because that one super does very little damage and doesn’t allow for that much more damage unless you go all the way and land all three supers. Clearly the finishing super does the most damage, even with the damage scaling.
I don’t see what’s so good about M-Siely. I used to think her projectile was overpowered, but that was when I didn’t understand the points system. The fact that it does so many hits makes it pretty useless.
Eh yeah. Anyway, the point is that I used to think her projectile was godly. The point system actually makes it pretty useless, unless you are at a major point advantage from a long combo (in which case, you can do some major chipping with it).
There are some tricks you can do that can make it crossup, by flying over it and behind while it’s coming and tossing another one so that they both hit at nearly the same time.
you know how siely gets raped by othello? BLOOD.
all he needs to do is land bloodspray once, or even have the puddles out, and siely will have to back off. if she gets it on her, at that point should she even 66 dash ONCE, he ignites it, and she’s forced to play defensive again. his normals have SICK priority over everything she does, and it’s way too easy to get powerbroken. backdashing out just makes you end up eating his blood move and getting put in worse situations because any Othello worth their salt are going to use it to limit her mobility. you can’t just mindlessly rush while shifted with 214B,A,B because it’s not safe, you WILL end up getting supered because there are bad frame gaps inbetween 214Bs, that shit is NOT for free. maybe you should try playing someone good like Turbovec or L3land with F-Siely for a few sets and you’d know what I mean.
i know about T-Siely’s lockdown but I have my own reasons for not wanting to switch to Tranquility.
Just bait him…run forward a bit, stop. Repeat…make him want to use it. If you get close enough, start an offense, otherwise advance slowly.
The powerbreak occurs because your points are low, not really because of priorities. If your points are not lower than his, there will be no powerbreak.
I don’t think blood actually hits during a backdash as backdashes are invincible.
It’s pretty much free because the jab is almost instantly after. I can see the qcb+C super going through it though, since it has some startup invincibility, but you’d have to mash it through pretty accurately, and you can just bait him into using the super, which means free big combo for you. And I already defeated those players rather easily (L3land was harder since the game was rather laggy). Turbovec rushes way too much, building your point total to incredible levels, making powerbreaks easy. Also, he attempts to attack between your strings, with Othello’s normals, which won’t work because Othello’s normals are much slower than Siely’s. This will only work if a lag spike occurs, resulting in your mistiming your own normals so that his end up hitting you, but of course this is a lag factor and not valid.
Too many lag spikes, it makes the tournaments pretty meaningless. It would be best if you made it regional…separating all west coast and east coast players (and possibly north and south).
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YOU CANNOT BAIT OTHELLO with Siely. there’s nothing he has to fear from her at all. her normals suck, and if you actually try that 214A, A,B repeat shit on him you’re going to build him a fuckload of points that he is going to use to powerbreak you and rape the shit out of you with Talbain juggle.
Blood does not hit during backdash but A+B blood explosion will ignite it whilei t’s on the ground and it will hit you and leave you vulnerable to his ridiculous oki overhead game.
look, whatever, you’re so supposedly damn good with Siely so you already know all this, right? show up at the ranbat, get raped and then go tear down this bullshit you’re talking about in a game you haven’t played real comp in obviously and then learn how the shit actually works.
f siely owns othello. othello, delga, and aleks are really the only reasons i still use her instead of t. he cant do anything to stop that guard string but switch. emils point is that if you do a big combo, then she gets free rushdown on him with no fear of retaliation.
You didn’t listen to anything I said. You use that rushdown after a combo you do on him, when your point advantage is high. You do it until the points almost even out, and this is assuming he can block it all. Of course Siely can bait him…all she has to do is a forward empty dash and end it immediately. Her run speed is fast, he will become wary of you approaching and either ignite it or defend.
I’m pretty sure the ignition does not hit during the backdash. I don’t see how it will leave her open to anything.
Dude, you’re assuming dumb shit. You’re saying that I haven’t fought good Othello players, and then bring up Turbovec, which I defeated easily. I know about your comments about me in the IRC channel, you said I was a shit talker. Obviously, if you brought up Turbovec as evidence of there being good Othello players, and I state I beat him easily, then it’s going to seem that I am shit-talking, even though it’s just the truth. As for L3land, he can be dangerous with the throw, but if you keep jumping out, he always whiffs it, so it ended up being easy. There’s no one that can rape me in this game, only some people can beat me (fooligar, possibly Xenozip matches will be close, rogueyoshi matches are pretty close although he wins more). There are some people I haven’t fought, like Magus, who seem like they are good players. In any case, that’s not the issue.
Of course He isnt listening. Your typing online lol
As for Turbovec. I notice he has up and down periods. I Personally believe he has a good othello. He just conforms way too easy to one style of play which holds him back from being great. I have never played you so I cant say. Xeno is good, Fooligar is good, Rougeyoshi is good. Fooligar is pretty much the best we have. I do really well against all of the above players. So if anyone knows anything about this game it would be the people i just mentioned.
As for no one can rape you in this game. Maybe not. But who cares. I thought this game was once again to be played for fun. But whatever. Im not attacking anyone so dont get defensive.
