MK Netcode - is this for real? UPATE: 1.02 PATCH IS LEGIT!

[Skudd]

And for the record, I get just as many bad connection matchups in SSF4 as I do MK9 (~10%). People using SSF4 for as the gold standard for online play should be pointed at while laughing.

Funny, because I think people using themselves as the gold standard deserve the same treatment. :rolleyes:

[Matty]

Searching for games seems to be better now. I usually don’t have to wait 5+ minutes now. And games seem to be 50/50. They’re either really good or really bad with the lag. Hopefully NRS fixes this shit. SSFIV is definitely better and more consistent on the whole. If I get in a good game of MK it is better than a good game of SSFIV, but that doesn’t happen much in comparison.

[HNIC_Mike]

way too much flaming going on in here.

everyone is an internet expert or a giant douche all of a sudden

[Matty]

and not everyone has a local scene. Or not everyone wants to drop everything and waste gas just to play a fucking video game.

I think you would be surprised if you actually made some effort to find local players. I thought Salt Lake was dead a few years ago, but a couple of us started playing together and then we started pulling 40+ at ranbats. And lol about whining about gas. If it’s just a fucking videogame why do you care about online either?

[purbeast]

way too much flaming going on in here.

everyone is an internet expert or a giant douche all of a sudden

i agree, people need to stop attacking eachother and just chill. there is a problem with online play in this game, whether you agree or not. people aren’t making this shit up.

I think you would be surprised if you actually made some effort to find local players. I thought Salt Lake was dead a few years ago, but a couple of us started playing together and then we started pulling 40+ at ranbats. And lol about whining about gas. If it’s just a fucking videogame why do you care about online either?

even if there is a local scene, doesn’t mean people have time to play it. there is a solid local scene around me but i rarely have the time to go to gatherings, and when I do go I have a great time. online is just convenient as hell to get some competition when the day is winding down and i’m chilling around 11pm. and the better the netcode, the better it makes that.

[Enochrewt]

There was no sarcasm intended in my post, just the truth as I see it. Here’s your picture:

[thecapsaicinkid]

It’s funny how much SFIV netcode was bashed on release when Marvel and MK9 have made it look pretty decent in comparison :lol:

[azproc]

There was no sarcasm intended in my post, just the truth as I see it. Here’s your picture:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/Enochrewt/Netcode.gif

Honestly most standard connections are fine. If you’re not on 56K or low tier internet and not wireless, you’re probably alright.
Online gaming is about latency, has nothing to do with your download speeds. If somehow more expensive internet packages give you less latency (re: Peer1 vs Cogent connections), then this could be an issue.

Good netcode will not generate the number of complaints we’ve had from releases with subpar netcode such as SF4 (2009!) and onwards. Seen many folks complaining about GGPO?

I also admit this would be easier to stomach if they didn’t promise top tier netcode and instead focused on the more important issues for this game to survive (e.g. button checks, training mode functions, patch notifications).

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It’s funny how much SFIV netcode was bashed on release when Marvel and MK9 have made it look pretty decent in comparison :lol:

As has been said before: just because something comes out worse than the sht we already know doesn’t make the predecessor any less sht.

[Flashy_Nights]

This guy… Alright, listen here steakhead
This game promised superb online play, and we want us some superb online play. Not everyone is a raging competifag especially when it comes to MK.

and not everyone has a local scene. Or not everyone wants to drop everything and waste gas just to play a fucking video game.

See this is what I mean by stay sweet SRK.

I don’t want to hear no more jokes about Capcom Unity and Gamesfaq.

[mcg3934]

All I have to say is:

LMMFAO @ anyone and everyone who says the clusterfuck is not solely the company’s fault… and ROTFLMMFAO @ those who honesty believe they give two shits about fixing it, now that they already have your monies. Stay free, in all aspects of life, suckers.

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I think you clearly underestimate word of mouth in the gaming business. They have every incentive to fix the netcode. If the game is unplayable online, people will talk, players will tell their friends. Their friends will not buy this version of MK. And current players will not buy DLC. And everyone will be very hesitant to buy the next MK installment.

Whatever ‘monies’ they have made in the first week/two weeks is a drop in the bucket compared to what they could potentially make off of this franchise.

Look at COD4 for an example of what a fantastic online experience can do for a game.

[ghost_whistler]

I have a rule of thumb: if it takes longer to find a decent match than to play a decent match, your game ain’t built right. The current setup feels like it was meant to work on a pc.

[Projectjustice]

The netcode isnt that great but ive had some great connections though. So its a mix at the moment. What bugs me out the most is the amount of ragequitting that happens in this game. Im no expert nor have i ever played any MK game with any skill in the past for me to be getting this. I beat the game and practice some combos in training and ive been doing ok. Yet I get a bunch of ragequitters. Its pretty annoying when you are trying to actually good better at a game.

[mcg3934]

For your first point, yeah you don’t need a mechanic to know it isn’t working, but you need to be one to be able to fix it. the code is broken and obviously there is problems with servers and NRS knows this. you can’t just rent servers, its a pretty complicated process that takes more than just a day.

2nd point - just stfu. if you’ve been playing games for more than 1 year you would know that most games that are released have lots of problems due to unforeseen problems that can never really be predicted. just look at fallout new vegas. probably the glitchiest game ever (has a ton of game breaking ones also), but after a few months it was perfect. all the performance problems and gamebreaking bugs on the PC were fixed, but it took a while. really if you think about it, releasing a game is like a huge ass beta test and because you have so many more people playing, you find more bugs that the playtesters never found. these things get fixed through patches.

3rd point, they were probably trying to figure out if the problems they were having are even fixable. imagine if they said this the day after it came out and it turns out there really is no way for them to fix it due to the engine or some other crap, they would lose even more fans for lying twice. they probably have to go through thousands of lines of code which takes A LONG time and a lot of time to figure out how to fix it. if they can at least get some of the server problems fixed in two weeks that would be pretty good, then maybe they can fix other things like the netcode and the menus over a longer period of time. this stuff takes a long time to fix and i would rather wait 2 months for a totally fixed game(if its even possible, lets just assume it is for the sake of argument) than 2 weeks for quickfix that just masks the problem or doesn’t even totally fix it.

4th point - every company gets away with sub par crap, just look at Apple and its overpriced computers that are really bad for anything other than facebook and maybe some video editing. stop whining and be happy they can ever patch it b/c if this came out 10 years ago you would have to buy a whole other fucking game. with the internet, companies can fix software all the time for a minimal charge compared to before where you would have to buy a whole other version of the same product.

hopefully NRS can fix the netcode, but from what i’ve seen, i’ve never seen a fighting game’s netcode fixed, even though GGPO has always improved its netcode so i don’t if its the laziness of the developers or if there really is a reason why they can’t fix it.

the only point where you are right is where you expected more and didn’t get it and that’s only because a few days before the game hit, NRS said it was going to have great online play. however we can’t go back in the past and fix it, so we just have to hope that NRS can fix.

Tekken 6 went from unplayable to fairly good, after a patch.

[Karas13]

There’s no excuse for this type of shitty net code in this day and age. If I was to compare the lag in this game to a FPS counterpart. I would have to look back over ten years to something like Duke Nukem 3d on 28k Dial up (not internet play but actual dialing the other guys telephone number through your dial up modem to play some games).

That is how bad this game lags, it’s fucking terrible. Even in the year 2000 whilst playing Unreal Tournament99 over the internet on a 56k modem it did not lag like how this game lags. After I got broadband in about 2001 I have to say I did not play any other online genres which lagged anything close to SF4(vanilla) and certainly nothing which lagged as bad as MK9. These devs really need to wake up and drop some serious money into bringing this genre up to the times.

[TrulyAmiracle]

Tekken 6 went from unplayable to fairly good, after a patch.

the fuck are you talking about? Tekken 6 still has one of the worst netcodes ever, it just went from “utter shit” to just “shit” after the patch.

[Captain_Ryu]

The only games that have an actual good netcode that I played (other than ggpo) are HDR and MVC2. SSF4 is good if you’re playing people within your state. I’m not sure why so many people praise VF5 netcode cause that was actually pretty bad imo, tekken is bad too. Marvel 3 and MK9 are shit even if you play your next door neighbor.

[Enochrewt]

I have a rule of thumb: if it takes longer to find a decent match than to play a decent match, your game ain’t built right. The current setup feels like it was meant to work on a pc.

See, now this is a sentiment I can get behind.

[xStingy]

There’s no excuse for this type of shitty net code in this day and age. If I was to compare the lag in this game to a FPS counterpart. I would have to look back over ten years to something like Duke Nukem 3d on 28k Dial up (not internet play but actual dialing the other guys telephone number through your dial up modem to play some games).

Blacks Ops came out less than 10 years ago. Although it was patched after a while I don’t know when.

[tarsier]

to the guys with lag - are you using ADSL ?

if so, get your ISP to make sure you’re set to ‘fastpath’ instead of ‘interleaved’.

fastpath reduces your latency by 30-40 ms.

interleaving is the big rip-off and games are just unplayable with it imo. it’s only 0.03-0.04 seconds but the difference is huuuuuuuuge.

[HuStLeMaN17]

tom brady has done more for our sport than most other players will ever do. I know some people think its cool to hate on tom brady because of all the success he’s had throughout the years, but you really need to ask yourself one simple question. What other player in his position, has done more for the other players than a tom brady has done? I think we can all learn from tom brady, and become better players for it.

lol people in here actually replied to this like I was serious, HAHA. Read It Again… I was talking about the Football player TOM BRADY, and people were responding like I was seriously talking about Mortal Kombat Tom Brady, of course I don’t like Mortal Kombat Tom Brady, Stay Fray SRK!!!