Sure, but it’s unpleasant to be treated as a cash cow. Those are my least favorite KickStarters.
I’ve lost all interest in this based upon their sales tactics.
Inafune fleecing everyone, why am I not surprised.
Losing and spending might as well be the same thing if you’re not selling shit to people for more money. Either way, just because he got it one way doesn’t mean he isn’t losing overhead for it. And he said what you’d get but none of you wanted to know how it was being created. You just wanted the game. That’s fine, after all. You don’t go look at where the sausage is made if you love yadda yadda. He’s still spending that money to get it out and he might have underestimated how much it would cost so he needs more or is afraid after the game is released he will get zero dollars afterward since everyone already gave their money.
It just seems to me more and more like he doesn’t know how to run a business and shot himself in the foot. He should have hired a partner to oversee the business end and he would deal with the products.
I am not disagreeing. That’s why I always choose to wait for a finished product before giving them money. If no product comes out because I didn’t invest, I won’t cry. I kept my cash.
The nigga is spending probably close to mil on ENGLISH VOICE ACTING alone… Who did they get for the Japanese version? NORIO WAKAMOTO?
What part of the game is that where hiring Steve fucking Blum is critical to the gameplay?
Get the fuck outta my face with that bullshit. If you are still defending this shit, you are a goddamned fool and deserved to be fleeced for all you’re worth.
That is possible, but still offensive. He convinced people of something. He should have known how to deliver. Also, their website/forum company was an absolute joke/nightmare. They didn’t deserve $10 for their “work.” After they got dollar signs in their eyes from seeing what the Kickstarter ended for, they probably quoted Comcept something obscene. Then Comcept was like, “Wow, websites are expensive! Here’s your 1 million dollars.”
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Just as a warning to anyone who goes through Kickstarter for anything but music:
Ask yourself: what’s his business model? I always think, first and foremost, the vast majority of people on Kickstarter had an awful business plan and couldn’t secure a commercial loan. For that alone I don’t donate to this stuff.
I remember this one:
In their description they talk about their plans for custom molded cases. Doing a run of custom cases alone would probably cost 1/3 of their goal. “Some of the money raised will go toward FCC certification/verification.” There goes another 1/3, if not more. Lucky for them it was never fully funded. They would have wished they had never thought of the thing. Like Inafune, they spent more time thinking about how to do a promo video and setup their Kickstarter page than the actual costs involved in delivering what they were pitching.
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I actually have nothing against Kickstarter or IndieGoGo. If people want to gamble and give something a chance, that’s on them. Personally, if I was to do a Kickstarter I’d at least have the project partially done, having donated my free time to getting to somewhere around 25% completion. Those I can get behind a lot more than some big dream with absolutely nothing to show, like M#9. Inafune got Kickstarted based on name alone. If he was a nobody with the same amount of crap to show as Inafune had, there is no way in hell he’d even be at $10k.
$4 million for a Kickstarter is pretty significant. That’s not even considering that Inafune has enough reputation to take out a loan as well to cover basic stuff like overhead if he needed to. Sales from M#9 beyond Kickstarter supporters would easily pay that back. Not everyone who wants to play the game will donate to the Kickstarter because they’d rather pay for the game when it comes out. The kind of people who don’t want to gamble with their money.
I don’t think Inafune is being wise with his money, mostly because after having hit way over his goal he is still asking for me. This tells me there is spending going on that was never accounted for and only changed because OMG THE MONIEZ RORRING IN!! I like that there are quality voice actors, but you know, there are a lot of no-names out there in local theaters who could probably do the job just as well, if not better, for a much lower cost. M#9 is essentially a Mega Man game. Games that are not known for amazing story telling, nor has any MM ever been known for even mediocre voice work! Still, the cost per hour is like maybe $100 or so, and a game like this means maybe an hour or two of work per character. So lets say $500 per voice actor for 5 hours of work. There is like what, 10 voice actors? 15? Let’s say 20 to be generous. That’s $10,000 for voice work. That’s really a drop in the bucket when compared with the initial Kickstarter goal. I’m not going to knock him for the voice budget.
Ok scratch that. Voice work for games is much higher, and goes by minutes. Check https://www.voices.com/resources/rates near the bottom. Still, a game like this does not have characters talking for hours. We’re talking 30 second quips here and there, maybe 5 minute cinematics at most.
No one cares about your reputation when you’re taking out a loan. Banks care about collateral and your annual income. None of us know his status on that. And it’s not wise to bank on future sales with nothing behind it. He came claim MM sales since it’s a separate property and different company.
Woo, business!
I’ve backed 48 projects on Kickstarter and only had two flakes (unique art I haven’t gotten yet), one procrastinator (High Score: 3rd Edition - guy is off writing other books), and some other slow-pokes (progress is clearly being made, but for example the Scary Godmother project is 18 months late or so). It’s been pretty solid for me across a variety of projects. I’m not going to blame everybody else for Inafune’s insanity. :\
I don’t mean that the banks care who he is only by name, but that the guy is successful enough to probably not have money issues and could probably get a loan with little issues. I believe he was one of the higher paid employee’s at Capcom? On top of that, wasn’t he still contracted to do consulting for Capcom? So he was still going to have income. He probably didn’t want to do that because that would be his money on the line, and he probably figured he could get a bunch of Kickstarter money on name alone. Lots of probably there.
Whats the hold up anyways? The last video of the games gameplay shows the game looks about 10 years old easily, plus Inafune done this shit like a 100 times.
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Bitch please.
Inticreates, the dudes that have made the last what, 8 Megaman games is working on this, that’s why I’m not fucking worried about all of the other nonsense going on.
You can go on ahead and point out the megaman platformer Inticreates fucked up that’d make doubt the gameplay will be good. Megaman 9-10, Megaman Zero 1-4 Megaman ZX and ZXA.
Is Inafune shit? Sure. Will I back anything he is putting out with the way he handled this? Nah.
But fuck outta here if you want me to care about anything besides game play.
About the voice acting, from what I remember people backed that shit separately for whatever reason so not sure why ya’ll are lumping it in with the initial kickstarter.
Good thing people didn’t back the extra DLC.
I expected to learn new info on the mighty game,
not see Inafune’s business savvy be both blamed and shamed.
now I’m mega mad
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I’m torn on Kickstarter. I’m mad I gave this project money now that I see what’s going on, and how they’re stringing the fans along. I feel like I let my dissatisfaction with Capcom get the better of me.
Then again, I’ve been addicted to Darkest Dungeon, another Kickstarter title that gave us all exactly what it promised, and on a timely schedule no less. This game is the shit, and it’s only going to add more content moving forward.
THEN AGAIN, we’re still fucking waiting for Yatagarasu to come out, albeit they asked for a fuckton less money and it’s three Japanese dudes with jobs and shit. This is sort of a middle ground I guess.
Kickstarter is a gamble, some great projects just won’t get made without it, but there’s also some real crooks out there taking advantage of people.
That’s really what it comes down to, I am perfectly fine buying anything these people make when it’s done, but it’s mostly because I can’t afford to gamble with my money. I want to buy games, not gamble on the prospect I might get a game i might like if i give people money. My brother asked me last month if I would like to go to the Casino with him. I said no. He asked why. I said cuz I don’t gamble, I can’t afford it.
Yeah I donated alot to this project. And I was really hoping these niggas were gonna keep pushing the “we’re striking about against Capcom with our own Megaman!” thing.
But these niggas tripping, and can’t nobody do nothing about it because people who donated because our money is gone. And these niggas are being trolls about it because they know people who are mad but paid can’t get their $$ back and they know some people are gonna ignore all this and accept because we’re getting another “megaman game” lol
I’d have no idea Inafune was selling wallpapers or asking for additional DLC/VA funding if not for this thread, and I’m a backer. As long as people realize and treat Kickstarter for what it was always meant to be, ie. as a site for charitable donations and not an online store they shouldn’t be getting upset over whatever happens after their donation.
So far there have been 86 project update emails and I’ve read maybe two of them. One was voting on Call’s design and second was voting for the design of her gun. The most important email is the one that comes with a serial key so I can register it on Steam and have the game join the rest of my PC backlog while I go back to playing mobile games on my tablet and watching Netflix like the casual that I am.