Michgan-2004- August-October

Regional Matchmaking Midwest
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Robo…

actually naw, I just read a systems guide on CvS2 about 3 years ago when the game came out. I also use the simple concept of, when I lose, I think about why I lost. That helped me get better. Then there is a plethora of info on this site about whatever on most games. I haven’t read most of it, but I read some. I played the game quite a bit when it first came out. But in the last year and half, not really that much. GGXX I play FS like once in 2 weeks at best. He is really knowledgable, so he taught me most of the stuff I needed to know. I’ve played fighting games long enough to know how learn from my losses and just realize what is getting me killed. I mean everyone should be able to do this. Thats how you actually get good. You don’t play 34312123213432452424 hrs to get good. I mean I’m sure Best or someone has clocked more time than me, but when I play, I actually try to see why I am losing and what I can do to stop it. I don’t bitch endlessly about some shit that beats me like some people do.

And its not so much I don’t care about people and what they do, its more that, it usually like people are bragging, which is pathetic. You don’t brag about having a job, because your supposed to have one. You don’t brag about having money, because your supposed to have some. Its like the Chris Rock joke goes.

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Nowadays FNG gets underway about 8pm…but I don’t know if I’m going to do it yet…I have some things to do 2morrow. I will post something by 2pm Friday.

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Nonsense.

U can go to Masquerade Games (10 mile rd. between Gratiot and I-94 phone: 586 772 9222) and pick it up.

If they don’t have it…have Diarre drive you to Gamespot on Ford road and Merriman(phone: 734 261 9311). Long drive but better than waiting 7 days.:smiley:

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The argument that FRC are a glitch because they aren’t in the game manual with the game is stupid as hell. I mean I guess Akuma’s Raging Demon was a glitch in the Alpha series because it wasn’t listed. Also I bet Ryu’s “Shin Sho” super in the alpha series was a glitch as well. I mean they have never listed all the shit in a gaming manual.

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:smiley: - Ha, ha…point taken.

cheese…I got one big big favor to ask you…when you graduate and get the 100k + job and you buy the 300k crib right off the lake…can I have docking privilages and park my boat in the water behind your house? Man it would be sooooo much easier than trailering my boat to and from the water all the time.

Robo gives cheese_master a sarcastic look, then shrugs shoulders and walks away

:lol:

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Actually… yea you do

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HEY YO its me, its me, its RDG (RUSH DOWN GOD) VDO here, just wanna say, don’t worry ROBO I care about what you do, and your house is sweet as hell to me, you worked really hard for what you have so forget the rest. Also let it be known

YES: Alivegas is a elite in tekken.
YES: Robotron is a VETERAN.
YES: I am RDG (beleive that)
YES:Julian is goofy lookin… oh wait that wasn’t part of the discussion whoops.

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EGB

Check PM.:cool:

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Negative, Masqurade was the first place I went, Bob was all out and says it’s likely he won’t get anymore anytime soon:eek: I know of Gamespot as well, me and ol cousin Diarra ain’t really on the same page no more. I already sent a money order out for it express to Toys n Joys, so they’ll get the payment tomorrow. Just gotta wait till it shows up to the house. Would have been nice to have it on my off day, though. Thanks Robo.

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Oh it’s typical to start a new thread when it’s 1000 posts, now, and not 100 pages like everyone said before. I see. If it’s by 10000 posts, or 100 pages even, why bother naming them “Michigan thread - spring/summer” when it should really be “MI thread - p300-p400” or “MI thread, replies 3,000 to 4,000?”

I know things aren’t going to change because I say so, they’re going to change half a year later when people start coming around to realizing I was right. I was right about SVC, I was right about Obot, I was right about Lycan; and for utility’s sake, I’m right about these threads; as is proven by random people still posting in the old thread, which wouldn’t fucking happen if you had waited until Saturday to make your new thread. A new thread doesn’t make things easier, you’ve still got to click last page, then sort out from where you’ve seen before.

Without a time qualifier, both 1000 posts and 100 pages are completely arbitrary for purposes of keeping things organized in the fashion that “MI thread [season here]” insinuates a need for. Since the same shit just gets repeated over and over anyway, we might as well have “MI thread index - #'d blatherings for referential purposes.”

Since the last couple threads were made at random times before seasons clipped, and were named with overlapping reverse seasons, I started the 3-month thread idea because it’s easy to manage for purposes of whoever prunes the forums, and if you go by the month, there’s no question as to what thread is the current one, even for misguided deities, and any new people who might stop in, as in the previous thread’s example of that Fillipino guy Eric who showed up randomly. Then again, I forgot, this is the MI thread, so it must do its best to be some sort of unapproachable hardass, while at the same time pointing out isolationists faults with the “scene” with faux erudition.

This new thread was completely arbitrary.

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(evil laughs)

FOOLISH FLESH CREATURES!! I, The Deity, will destroy ALL in Street Fighter Alpha 3. (evil laughs)

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Ivy, I guess I must be a dummy because I didn’t understand a lot of the big words you used in that last post…but not to be outdone, check this out:

CVS2 is the process of splitting atoms, or fissioning them. This page will explain to you the basics of CVS2. Before we talk about that, however, I would like to discuss MVC2. Everyone’s played MVC2 at one time or another, right? Well, imagine Obot on a flat surface, all jumbled together, and roughly forming a circle. What would happen if someone took another M. Bison and threw it at him? They would fly all around in different directions and groups, right? That is exactly what happens in CVS2. The filled circle is like an atom’s nucleus. The roll cancel being thrown is like a “Sagat bullet”. The only differences are that A groove are protons and neutrons and the protons and neutrons aren’t in the Michigan thread, but in the actual atom are in the shape of a Geese Howard. Of course, Blanka is also a bit more complicated than a pack of marbles.

See Ivy, I can use big words too!:stuck_out_tongue: (j/k)

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thanks man. i was having a shitty day until i read that. LMFAO!

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You know the funny thing is that it was a glitch (come on now, one of Kys FRCs takes place six frames after he activates his sword super and only has a two frame window, you cant believe THAT was done intentionally by programmers, thats a glitch all day) that was found out then made its way into the game, my point is this, if the programmers found out about roll canceling in CvS2 and said look this is how you do the move, would everyone be crying about it? No game is flawless or played at a competitive level the way it was made to be played so why does most of the people in this thread hate roll canceling so much? Im going to go out on a limb and say its not the RC but the person doing the RCIll leave it at that before people say Im talking shit

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If programmers found out about it, they would have documented why and how it works, and left it in the US release.

At least if it was intentional, it would be a question of “this is an intended feature, and that is the way the game was meant,” and not “this is something figured out to unbalance the game.”

You seem to be very defensive about them now that you can do them.

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Nope FRCs are intentional lol. I mean they have a damn guide in training mode telling you when to do them. Doing something in a 2 frame window is nothing new to fighting games, I mean Tekken 4 had Just Frames where you had a 1 to 2 frame window to shit. VF4 has a Just Frames as does SC2 and SC1. FRCs are the same thing, a just frame to cancel recovery on certain special moves. They were intentionally put in. I mean if training mode has a feature telling you the timing to each FRC, then definitely, it was meant to be put it. Hell in Reload, they left FRCs alone, added FRCs to some moves, and took some out etc etc, but the concept is still there. GGXX programmers actually had alot of depth added to the game through the game system. Its actually a pretty well thought out game, thats why it is pretty balanced.

I think people have an aversion to something difficult. If something is hard, they make excuses for not having to use it. Its cheap, its unfair, its a glitch etc etc etc. Because if something difficult to use or difficult to understand, is called cheap, you have an easy excuse to lose to it. You see the tougher part would be to learn to use it because that would take work, the easier part would be to ban it because then you won’t have to learn how to use or go up against it.

FRCs are just something that forces people to actually spend time playing their chars and practicing them. Just like Just Frames in other fighting games.

Thats my take.

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RANDOM THOUGHTS

CVS2 is great!!!

We had a nice lil game session at my crib on wensday.

MYSELF
VDO
CHAD
OBOT
AHMAD
LYCAN
CITYHUNTER

Much fun!!!

Anyway Roll cancelling is a tactic,You either learn how to do it or how it works or you die.PLAIN AND SIMPLE

It’s a glitch only by term,95% of those that call it that don’t even play the game or don’t know how to use it,Either that or they just lose to it.

There’s a glitch in everygame,Why?!? cause there made by un-perfect humans.But why is no one talkin about kara cancelling in 3S?!? or crouch cancelling in A3?!? I WONDER WHY. It’s because the other games that have glitches aren’t that noticable and can still be beat with ease!! but not with CVS2 you gotta really be on a high level to beat RC’ing. THINK ABOUT IT.

Anyway everygame has a king of the hill,MVC2 has justin wong,CVS2 has john choi,ST has jason cole and 3S has heisn chang.Thats just the way it is and just because there the best don’t mean that the put 10hours ever day into the game though some of they shit might look so impressive to the point it may look like they play that much,That don’t really mean they do,Me for one don 't play cvs2 all day VEGAS don’t play tekken all day but play dat ass in a tourney and you’ll think second about that,Same applies for the TOP players that set a standard for players like yes myself.

I"m throwing my tournes so that we can get better and have FUN also to support MICHIGAN after my shit is over (good turn-out or bad) i’m gonna continue host them,Cause I can’t get better with out any comp,I"ll be going to A A tournies cause cheesemaster said he’ll support mines,I"ll be going to Saginaw cause they said they’ll support mines and I"ll be willing to train/challenge anyone that wants to get better (obot) thats the bottom line NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT.

Here’s a list of those that are SUPPOSE TO BE THERE.

HOLLOW
VDO
JULIAN
EGB
DORIAN
MYSELF
AHMAD
JD
DRE
NATE
TONE (FLINT)
BONESAW (FLINT)
CHEESEMASTER
A A (HOPEFULLY KOLOGI,SCOOT)
CLAYTON
OBOT
CITYHUNTER
GENERAL JACKEL
BEST
CHAD
LYCAN
SAGINAW (THATS WHAT THEY SAID)
KENSHIN (AND HIS LIL CREW)
TERRELL
AND ANYOTHER LOCALS THAT WANNA BATTLE

I ain’t even put my intrest in tryin to hype it up at wizzards with the flyers cause the one’s thats gonna so up is the one’s I talked to personally.

Most of these people are suppose to be in BOTH tournies so that we can get better at both games. (CVS2 3S) PEACE.

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Add my name to the list of ppl that will be there, Keshawn. I got that day off. Barring some unforeseen situation, I’ll be there.

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GGXX FRC was intentional, I pretty sure in articles I’ve read.

CVS2 is another story.

What exactly is the argument here? There is proof documented everywhere that RC is a glitch…its undisputable.

Should one learn to use RC is a different argument.

I say if your gonna play competitively with the masses…YES. Definately learn to use it or at least play people who use it and learn to defend against it.

If you look at it that way, whats the big deal.

Should someone (like myself) does’nt want to use it, learn it, etc. fine…but don’t make insults and write page long articles on why myself and others are scrubs. Its just a simple matter of choice.

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I hold to my theory that RCs are an intentional glitch. I have no scientific evidence to back it up…I just believe that.

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I’ll see you there Hollow

Much respect ROBO,And the aurgument is more so about people that complain that the ONLY reason they lose is because of RC’ing,The most effective RC in the game BY TEN FOLDS is blanka’s ELECTRICITY!!!

I think personally that they put that shit in there.Just my opinion,It was in CVS1 (but couldn’t go threw shit) It was in CVS1 PRO EDITION!! (and it had the SAME priority thats in CVS2) Now cvs2 has it,That with beefed up characters.

No one from what I"ve seen is doggin anybody that don’t wanna learn how to do it,IT’s just pointless (IMO) to not learn how it works.Our on top players have tried (JULIAN) but can’t get it down pack and he does the best he can without it simply because he don’t know how to do it.

Capcom was told by the 2001 japan nationals champion SHINYA-OHNUKI that roll cancel was possible in this game,This was told to CAPCOM (as he is A tester) before the game was released.Yet this shit is STILL in the game,Way I see it is that they were too lazy to reprogram the start screen that tells you your ablilities.I.E PARRY,JD,ROLL,SHORT JUMP,COUNTERMOVEMENT, ETC ETC ETC,Roll cancell should be one of them thats mentioned!!

For those that are serious about competing in the game,they should see it as just that and not a glitch,for those on the side line watching they should just talk (like it’s done) but when the actual players get caught up in whining on shit they know is in the game then thats when the flames start.PEACE