I see no problem with taking good info from the net, like what is a good anti air for so and so, and what beats what move consistently, stuff like that.
I may play mostly for fun, boy, but I could still kick your ass at Hyper Fighting :evil:
Naruto 3 news
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But sharing fighting game tactics has been around for a long time.
Long before SRK; long before gamecombos; long before gameFAQs; long before compressed mpeg movies: there were newsgroups.
When SF2 came out, the only place for people to discuss the game was on alt.sf2. They didn’t have forums with quoting and replies. They didn’t have character specific forums for people to discuss specific matchups. No private messages, no premuim memberships–just plain old newsgroups.
Isn’t the sharing of any and all information the ultimate purpose of the internet anyway?!
But the internet is not a dictatorship. There is no regulation.
Each man is the judge of the amount of information which is neccessary to achieve his purpose on the internet.
Lets assume that I think know the “basics”.
Who exactly determines whether or not I know the “basics”? And if such a person reaches the conclusion that I do not know the basics: at what point would they have the right to place a limit on my consumption of free information?
You seem to favor a home-grown style of play without interference from the outside world or the internet. A style which is “pure” or “genuine” in nature. A style of play which only improves in proportion to the discoveries of the local players.
But this isn’t the case. The world outside of Detroit and the internet will continue rear their ugly heads in our daily lives.
Jobs will continue to be outsourced to India and internet combo videos will never go away.
Any dumb schmuck can go and pick up a copy of CvS2, log on to google, then type “cvs2 tips”, and get a thousand hits. He can click on ANY of those links regardless of whether or not he knows any of the “basics”, and none of us would be in any position to say he was acting in “good” sense or nonsense.
I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but a idiotic comment such as this always come up.
Man even without me talking, this thread still has stupid arguments like this.
Anyways I just came on to double check… this tourny IS starting at 6 right? Cuz I don’t wanna go there at 6 and wait till 8 for this shit to start. If someone ain’t there at 6 to 6:15, they should just go to the losers.
i seen someone use a jab the other day and now i use jab. is that stealing? =o
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Any and all information? No.
Lets suppose someone uses the internet to get your credit card number/kiddieporn/meet 13 year old for sex…
then your point becomes null and void.
Just because you find information on the internet doesn’t always mean it fair game to use it, Tuff. I guess it depends on your…lets say “gaming morals”. The internet post cheats and codes. So just because its “on the internet” that means you absolutely must take advantage of it? What ever happened to playing a game and trying it out for awhile and then resorting to cheats and codes later after you’ve been stuck or whatever? Why buy games anymore its that what its come to.
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And proud of it.
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Ahhh…
The intellectual speaks.
No, what I said was copy someone else’s combo “move for move”.
In my opinion thats stealing.
Robo, when I was speaking about information on the net, I was speaking about information as it pertains to and is used by normal rational decent human beings.
The analogy is similar to someone driving on the road.
When someone sets out on the internet “super-highway”, he or she will neccessarily run certain risks. You’ve named three of them but only two are of any use to the discussion(a thirteen year old on the internet should be monitored as closely as a thirteen year old driver.)
Anyone who shops on the internet runs the risk of having their credit-card number stolen. Just like anyone who drives runs the risk of getting into an accident.
Of course there are precautions you can take to prevent bad things from happening. Like only shopping on sites which use SSL encryption to keep your cc number safe, or driving defensively to not get into an accident.
But there is no guarantee that the person who has access to your cc # on the other end of the system won’t use it for evil purposes. Much in the same way that there is no guarantee that another driver won’t run into the side of your car for no good reason.
My point is still valid because both deviants and normal folk alike can and will use the internet for their own purposes because(as I’ve said):
“Each man is the judge of the amount of information which is neccessary to achieve his purpose on the internet.”
Certain things should not be on the internet just like certain people should not be driving on the road.
But the reality is that there are still 8 year old only kiddie porn sites on the net and there are still incapable drivers who drive into crowded street markets in the middle of the day.
The same internet that lures stupid 13 year olds to dirty men is the same internet that lists sex offenders in your local area. Its all relative.
No one said that you “must” take advantage of information–simply because its on the internet.
My point is that the information is out there. For anyone.
There is a reason that fighting game tactics are so popular.
The reason is that people generally don’t “get stuck” in fighting games.
They are more than likely “getting their asses kicked”.
And I’m willing to bet that “internet videos” or whatever would be even more of a dilema for you if console gaming wasn’t around.
If people were forced to go to the arcade to play Street Fighter everytime, any tactic from the internet, a book, word of mouth, etc. would be considered pure gold.
If the only way to play fighting games was to go to the arcade and pay 50 cents, the people who enjoy playing them would use every tactic available to win or never play them at all.
But this isn’t the case. You don’t have to go to the arcade to play your favorite fighting game. You can turn on your console and whack the night away, doing whatever you want to win/not win because no one cares but you.
And this right here is the very core of the argurment. Some people play the games with the view that before the console, there was only the cabinet.
And some people play the games with the view that there are consoles, not just cabinets.
Its the old struggle between the casual console enviornment and the serious cabinet killer instinct.
The people who have the “cabinet only” mentality simply like to use their imagination and deny the existence of the console. This causes them to play as if their money is on the line everytime.
They see the console as just a convenient way to practice for the cabinet.
So when people jump on the net to see vids, or copy combos, they aren’t really stupid or cheap or cut-throat: They just have the “cabinet only” instincts.
Naruto 3 news
Isn’t Tam Tam that catchick with the monkey-pal from SamSho?
Her name is TenTen.
And I can’t see them really being able to do much else but teams of three with the amount of characters that will be in this game. Especially if they’re keeping the characters like Zabuza/Haku/Kurasu/Akamaru. (You know, the ones that have been long gone from the show/manga and the ones that were funny for like 5 seconds but now sit unplayed and hated.)
However, ONLY setting them up into set teams of 3 and not being able to choose your own 3-man would be dumb as FUCK.
I’d like to see Asuma, Kurenai and MITARASHI ANKO (if I had a dick I would get a boner every time I said that name) in the game. But no Kimimaro, I’d just barf every time he’d do his finishing move, that shit is NASTY.
PS: Video games are for fun and enjoyment. No one is gonna give you a medal because you can RC Blanka. I can RC Blanka and I DON’T PLAY CVS2. :lame:
SEXCOPTER RUL, peas.
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You said any and all, thats why I underlined it in my post to you.
I appreciate the 1000 word essay on the differences between normal and deviant people, though.
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You know what? I’m gonna buy that part your argument. I’ve been complaining as to why peeps that come to FNG have that “cut-throat” mentallity when playing for fun at my crib. The thing had me so rattled at one time I thought about doing away with FNG altogether…but I decided not to because FNG is just so much fun otherwise. I can’t tell you how many nice people I’ve met hosting FNG, kinda makes me forget about my own problems for one day out of the week. But I can’t stand all the name calling and other shit that comes with this so-called “cabinet killer instinct”.
Thanks Tuffy…I now have a better understanding. I think I might stop hosting gaming at my house and leave the SRK scene after all. If thats all the up and comers care about, I want no part of it.
U never got stuck trying to beat Gill on 3rd Strike? Never got stuck trying to beat last/sub boss on any fighting game?
Dam your good.
there are no “up and comers” in michigan.
My bad for calling her TamTam. As for the 3 man teams, I just meant they were going to have set up teams on the character select screen, not that you HAVE to choose a team of 3. Naw, they wouldn’t do that.
:wasted: - ouch.
Shoot bro, I have not once looked up how to do a Damn thing with anyone I play with in any game that I take seriously, and by this I mean a game I really really like,
Biz
I dont know if I like that type of set up for naruto 3, I mean it kind of takes the fun out of playing the people you want to play and making them a team mate, like if I played the Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura team, I dont like SAKURA but I am forced to deal with it, now if I could make my own team that is a different story, Sasuke, Rock, Neji. Now we are talkin…!!!
Hey I needed to ask you, since you are a programmer can you help me out in finding what I need to make a cvs disk with the music I like? I am working with VDO on finding good music to put in it.
So far I have.
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Dare, from transformers.
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Breaking the habit, Linken Park (I think I spelled their name wrong)
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Reptile sound track, Mortal Kombat.
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We all bleed Red, Mortal Kombat (I think thats the name of the song)
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i wanted to use on from Matrix Reloaded. (Leave it to a vote)
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Trance Techno…(Leave it to a vote)
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Anything anyone else wants to put in…
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Wow you finally stumpt me…
Well since I dont know who “Freud” is I am stumpt… unless you are speaking of the world famous physiologist. if so then I take it as a complament.
Shhhhhhhhhhhh…not so loud. We are looked down upon for that.:bluu:
(evil laughs)
FOOLISH FLESH CREATURES!! I, The Deity, will destroy ALL in Naruto 3 and Mortal Kombat Trilogy. (evil laughs)
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I’m just going to say I must not be very good at explaining things. From what I’ve read, THE CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN was arranged much like the TEAMS the characters in the ANIMATED HIT NARUTO are a part of. In no part of this did I say that you were forced to play with that TEAM . It’s still a 4 man, go for broke, every man for himself, party fighter. You select 1, read this, ONE, 1, UNO, ICHI, character.
What I was trying to explain was that because they had arranged the character select screen (Yes, character SELECT screen), much like the teams are arranged, then why wouldn’t they add TenTen (once again, my bad, not TamTam), Shino, and whomever else, especially since they’ve added Temari and Choji, completing two other teams.
Yes, Zabuza and Haku are still in the arrangement, there’s no reason for them to be taken out.
Thank you, and good day. 
You all missed the point. How much did obot talk about guilty gear before he went off to lose in california. None. Then he comes back, and is suddenly imparting knowledge to people who’ve played the series forever not only as though it was something he had discovered himself, but like people wouldn’t already be aware of it.
It also doesn’t say much that the guy gets no respect for how he plays game A, and now that he’s hopped onto game B, he’s just looking for ways to break it immediately before learning how it works as a base.
Clarence you have no hope against me in trilogy.
Freud wasn’t a physiologist, you stupid fuck, he was a psychologist.
I’m just happy Shino might be in it. He looks ultimate coolness.