Why would women stop acting the way they do when they can literally get away with (attempted) murder? If you want to be all technical, she wasn’t doing the actual killing. If you want to be realistic, a guy would’ve been sentenced with that kind of smoking gun hanging over his head in court.
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Here is another example. The guy has no clue.
[/quote]Yup. I think somebody posted the old news clip on here back then too.
-Starhammer-
Ten things viewed through the eyes of a turd flinging monkey.
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What’s the difference between romance and rape?
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@starhammer where is your AV and meme from? Dunno how to search for it. We have a saying in spanish that says “I don’t even know whether to laugh or to cry” but that gif sums it well.
Anyway, to toss something into this thread: anyone ever heard about Mark Minter? It was a thing about 4 years ago on a bunch of alt righters sitesbefore they jumped the shark. He was a commenter to other bloggers’ sites, but those comments where articles by their own right both on length and quality. Although those posts could be a little rantalicious, they had such a powerful and energetic style that they easily stand the test of time. Sadly, Mark Minter himself ended ignoring his own choir and went marrying a 30 somethings broad (he was already near 60), so we’ll have to enjoy those posts as Van Gogh’s paintings, opus done on a moment of lucidity before succumbing to the madness.
Here is one of such posts:
I deserve to have my comment called a “disatribe”. It does contain that ranting bitterness that most women in the blogosphere dismiss as the vitriolic rambling of the male divorcee.
I agree that if you want to have children that a dual parent household is the best environment.
But you do not have the say over whether that will happen. Men are just “Dancing Monkeys” for women and almost every activity that a typical young man does is to prepare himself to be chosen by a woman and then to lay his offering at the feet of the goddess and she accepts or rejects him and his efforts. And there is little that he can do about it.
Think of all the shit that a young boy has to go through to prepare to get “chosen”. It starts effectively at 14. You could almost honestly say that if a boy fails Algebra II and certainly Algebra I, has effectively filtered himself out of having a successful marriage by 2012 standards. That’s a harsh thing to say, but I base that on divorce statistics and how the upper levels of income have divorce rates that are more like the 50s. And in western society, the common ingredient of economic success is educational attainment.
And men start down this path of study and work, and even then, in the sexual marketplace they can be discarded despite the work, despite the effort.
Take a modern dating coach. His efforts with men are to teach them to eliminate behaviors and mannerisms that women use to reject him. Despite what he is on paper, his degrees, his income, the possibility that he might offer a woman, he is rejected often for the most trivial bullshit and the big picture of who he and what he offers is irrelevant. A female commenter above stated “I s* test because I want to know that he will protect me.” and my reaction is “From what? Lady, there aren’t any Sabre Tooth Tigers anymore. The shit you need to be protected from is a bill collector, homelessness, lack of esteem from lacking in financial capacity, sacrifices your kids will make from lack of resources and this guy is perfectly capable of protecting you from that.” Yet women will toss men aside for the most nothing reasons. It is stated that women will reject 80% of men and I think that number is far higher.
Now take the work the dating coach does with women. He has to teach them not to be so picky, to literally look for a reason to be attracted to a man. Here is a woman that economically and socially is beneath the man she is judging and yet she can find any number of reasons to justify rejecting him. She is constantly picking at him, pushing him, judging him, rejecting him. There was a famous Seinfeld episode where a woman was dumping Jerry after seeing his stand up act. She had been a pest all through her existence on the show and now she was dumping him. She said “I just can’t be with a man if I don’t respect what he does.” And Jerry replied “You work at a FotoMat!!”
And this doesn’t end with getting married. If anything, it intensifies. You continually go through fitness testing and what the work of Rollo and other writers like is to expose how and why that it happens. And when a woman deems you unfit by whatever criteria she wishes to employ, be it income, dick size, mannerisms, whether you toss and turn in the bed at night, whether your political beliefs fit what she deems a proper parent should be, religion or any 700,000 things that she and she alone deems are grounds for disqualification. When she pushes you out and unleashes the dogs of the legal system and the divorce industry on you, then your life set into an inflexible slavery that you cannot shake.
The next thing I am going to say is extremely controversial. Marriage is so Second Wave. And it is over. This opinion comes from an intellectual analysis. It is like Network TV. There will still people that do it and want it but it will no longer be the dominant form of social organization. It will die a slow death over a couple of generations and men don’t realize that this is true will get run over.
Margaret Mead said “Motherhood is a biological reality; Fatherhood is a social invention”. A lot of the other stuff she said about culture determining behavior should be thrown out, but this one sticks with me. Men are not naturally predisposed to be fathers. And that role is entirely defined by social conditioning. If you never had children, you will never miss that you didn’t. The Male Social Matrix does not have Fatherhood as a measure of your worth. Your accomplishments, you talents, your personality, you, who you are, give you your worth among men.
And I say there is a better way for a man to spend his life than as a father and as a husband. That fatherhood role may be beneficial to greater society but it is a perfect waste of a life for a man. I say this as someone that has been married for 17 years and has two kids. That husband/father role was about 10 years of my 57 years. There are some significant memories I had from that time. But there are other memories from before and after that are just as significant to me as those from that father/husband time.
And, all in all, that was a lonely and a stupid time in my life. I busted my ass for those people and now that I am divorced, I don’t even get birthday cards. Not one of those kids ever spent a day in day care, I paid out the ass for nannies. I drove the shit car so my wife and kids could ride in new cars and have that nanny. I lived in a stupid, insipid, boring ass suburb where the neighbors would complain if you left your garage door open because it didn’t look good. I was beneath the dogs in getting my desires and needs meet. And even to them I was secondary. At night when everyone was up in bed, the dog would start to head upstairs and leave me alone. It was just like the Richard Pryor line “Rich, you cool and all that. But you are little tardy with the chow so I’m heading upstairs”.
And then it all got ripped away from me. And jobs and economics took me out the city where they lived to somewhere else. And I started to change. I was a high tech IT worker because it was the way to make the most money and when I chose jobs that was the first filter, that money. Cube life. Corporate headquarters. Meetings. Diversity training. Sexual harassment seminars. Political correctness. Boredom. Office politics. Every now and then I got a respite working in a start up that was more of the male sandbox and less of the female swing set but then the enterprise would go public and the women would come in and the whole thing was turn into something else, something worse. I was pissed and angry all the fucking time between how I got treated at home and forcing a square peg personality into the round hole of major corporation life. I needed anti-depressants. I needed Viagra. I needed Xanax to sleep.
So now I am not that guy. And I no longer am a husband and a father. And when I look back on all that shit, I think just how stupid it all was and how there has to be a better way for a man to live his life. I don’t really do much right now but what I do is what I want to do and I make no sacrifices to anyone in doing it. And I don’t need anti-depressants or Xanax. The biggest deal was to be 10 years older, 57 years old, and to no longer need Viagra and return to having erections as hard and as long as when I was 30. Explain that.
If you still think that being a husband and a father is the ideal way that a man should spend his life then you have only taken half a dose of the Red Pill. I’ll admit I suffer from the Dark Triad of personality attributes, narcissism, psychopathic tendencies, Machiavellian attitudes and am prone to selfishness. But it is obvious to me, especially now after months and months of huge amounts of reading Red Pill essays, that the gender role played by American Men, particularly as a father and as a husband is pure sucker play. I seen both the good sides and the very dark sides of it. You have been conditioned (read ‘duped’) to think that it is what you should do. If you truly unplug, then that belief has to go.
And a lot of my attitude that it should be avoided is not based on how it was, but more so on how it is going to be. I posed a question in a comment on this blog about how Rollo thought it was going to be 10 years, 20 years from now.
Roosh answered my question. It is going to suck. The tendencies of options, choice addiction, bitchiness, flakiness, and superhyper hyergamy are going to get worse. When I read the writings of women on the internet and the main stream media, I realize just how far apart we are, how dismissive they are of the chorus of angry men as bitter losers, betas who can’t get laid or bitter divorced men who deserved what they got. They are not changing to suit men and what men want. Look at that tweet from Hugo Mangina that is so dismissive of Rollo and what he writes no matter how cogent, how academic, it is to us.
And I think Roosh is the young guy who has his ass in the grass and he speaks with and interacts with thousands of women. You can say what you want about him but he is the product of his generation and I think he has the grip on the reality of how things are and how they are going to be. And his opinion of women, both foreign and domestic is that you are a fool to invest your life in them.
Roosh had this one post where he was saying that MRM is dead. He said he could care less. MRAs screamed about the abuses of women in marriage and in divorce and it didn’t affect him because he was not marrying an American woman. MRAs screamed about custody issues, child support and alimony injustices and it didn’t affect him because he wasn’t having children.
And that is it in a nutshell. You can’t change what has happened nor what is going to happen. You can only accept it and plan your life accordingly based on reality and logic.
And I will say this over and over. We are in a new epoch of social organization. There is no going back. There is no cure, no magic bullet that will turn back gender relations to 1968. The world is going to evolve to some other form of social organization other than one that is based on the family, the nuclear family.
And I, for one, look forward to it. I do not wish to return to 1955. I like the freedom I have in 2012 far more than the slavery I had in 1992 and 2002. Imagine the flexibility I would have at this time if I had totally eschewed women and saved the money they cost me. I wish I had the attitude I have today towards them, one of scorn, of disdain, of dismissal, of “amused mastery”. Women, for so long, were this mirror that I used to judge myself, how they viewed me, how they accepted or rejected was so instrumental of my self esteem and in the determination of my actions.
So now I say fuck them. Stop living for them and live for yourself. Women should be a fucking hobby and not the central focus of your life.
There is no “One”. There is no soulmate. One is as good as another. None are worth sacrificing for, none are even worth your time more than to convince them to fuck you. They will never love you as you love them. Their love is opportunistic and conditional. And most of all, it is temporary until that better deal comes along. She will leave you bleeding on the side of the road if suits her hypergamy. If the next woman isn’t better than the one you left, then the one after that will be. They are all the same under the hood. The only reason you think you value them is that you have fallen for the scarcity model. Sound familiar? I read every sentence of this paragraph on this blog. And these statements now my new marching orders. My new General Orders.
This is 2012 and like it or not, we are marching into the Brave New World. The PostModern is here, the Third Wave is here. If you try to stand with your feet placed in the Modern era or in the Second Wave, you are going to get run over. New forms of social organization are occurring right now. My Republican sister was bitching about how President Obama should be at the UN because Arab Prime Ministers wanted to meet with him over the embassy issues and he was on “The View”. I said “Fuck those Prime Ministers. They don’t vote for him. He has a 25 point lead with women in Ohio. Those guys don’t tell an American President how to set his agenda. Voters do. Female voters.” Since becoming Red Pill aware, I see this election as a gender based election, the first of many to come. All those old white men are going to start dying and that old Republican platform is going to die with them. And it will be replaced with a platform that tries to stem the advance of The Female Imperative and it will lose, just like it will lose this time.
So get a clue, women are looking for a new economic order to replace men as the economic resource in their lives. So you need replace them as your center of focus. If you block them from placing the chains on you that they wish to impose, then their agenda will have little affect on the immediate reality of your personal life. If you never marry and have children then you will never be subject to a litany of shit. Yes, you will have to deal with the workplace reality of them and the economic ramifications of the new social order that they construct. But if you don’t have a wife and kids then you can be so much more flexible in how you can deal with it.
And if you do reject marriage, then you will know freedom and flexibility in way that no men that came before us ever knew. It is useless to try to find a way to make marriage work, to turn back the clock to some era when men were dominant, were family leaders, and honestly you have no idea if that time really ever existed. My dad was alpha and my mom and him jammed because he was. Maybe my paternal grandfather was the leader, but I am sure that was specific to who he married more than it was that it was institutional. My maternal grandfather surely wasn’t in control of his house. My maternal grandmother was dominant alpha bitch in that house. And my mother was her daughter. I feel that those times were just a different version of The Female Imperative that worked for women then but is no longer necessary now.
So yeah, there is a remnant of anger in my posts and a lot could be called a diatribe. But there is more intellectual analysis than my language might lead you to believe. My rejection of marriage is based on what I believe will come as well as in my own experience of it.
Adam lived in Garden of Eden until that bitch Eve came along. To me, the apple is a metaphor for marriage and children. Adam didn’t have a PlayStation3 or the internet so he ate the apple to avoid being alone. He didn’t have 48% of women 25-30 or 28% of women 30-35 with a status of “Never Been Married”. He didn’t have the wide variety of sluts available to him. All he had was that bitch Eve. You have a lot more options than he did.
Fuck eating apples and fuck being married to women. The Third Wave Man has a far better future ahead of him then being Ken to some hypergamistic Barbie. I have gone beyond being angry at women and at divorce. Now I am happy that it happened to me and I look forward to variety that is available to me in my life now that those chains have been removed from me.
Your angst that most of you feel is in your mind and is based on what happened to you or on the loss of what was. Many of you feel powerless against modern women in their pursuit of hypergamy and their sexual manipulation of you.
Let go of it and go forward as a free man. Concentrate on the postings that enhance your Game and not on those postings that indict women or feminism. It is a waste of effort. It like standing it the beach and arguing with the tide.
Game is not only dominance cues and pickup tactics. It a belief structure that supplants much of what you have held before. Including Marriage and Fatherhood. It encompasses the truth about law, science, society, women, relationships, biology, anthropology and should be setting right at the forefront of your paradigm of belief structures even in the front of concepts like Capitalism and Democracy.
That you even wrestle with the concept that Game might be functional in marriage and what is alpha this and beta that just shows that you have not accepted reality for what it is. Let go. Let the transformation come over you and when it is done, you will be happier.
Game is my shepherd. I shall not want.
I can’t believe that I just read all of that…
I tried but gave up around the half way point. Felt I’d gotten the jist of it by then.
This is inaccurate. If I understand correctly, “MGTOW” is about anti-marriage and anti-gynocentrism. That’s the only common thing. All the other stuff are personal principles the individual chooses to add. The acronym itself is just for convenience when using internet search engines so you can easily find other people you can talk to about these topics, like this very thread. It’s not a “label” and it’s not a “community”. How you label yourself doesn’t matter, only that you do what’s good for yourself.
This post is absolute truth equivalent to the truths found in math and physics. The nuclear family has no place in the modern world thanks to the degenerate and cancerous effects of post modernism ideologies. And womrn and dudes who refused to think have nobody but themselves to thank.
First off, Standing ovation for that spoilered part. 
As for my av, this will explain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_KdQNXMU-A
That particular scene is where my av and the whole,“Spam the gif” thing comes from. Funny enough, it was only after taking the red pill and then looking at the world through different eyes did I come to see the humor in a lot of these situations. Just like Charlton Heston in that situation, I see this kind of stuff and laugh. Chaos all around, War threatening to break out from any number of sources, people dying in the street, and yet, somebody who has more money than I can even think of is going to tell me I’m a bad person because I’m spreading my legs on a public transport?
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“Some people suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.” You should all join me.
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My thing is more or less “don’t be a shit”. You want to get married? Fine, hope it works out for you. You don’t want to? Sure, whatever, all the more power to you. Just don’t be an annoying dick about it. It’s the same principle I apply to myself. See, I’m vegetarian, and I hate the people who yell at people who eat meat. The same goes here. If you’re going to go around talking about how shit women are and how marriage is a scam and all men who are in romantic relationships are suckers, I’m sorry, but you’re shitty to be around.
It really is that easy. Don’t be a shit. Sure, we probably won’t agree on what being a shit is all of the time, but I would like to think a vast majority of the population agree on roughly 50% of what being a shit entails.
Pretty sure it’s just natural for most people to shit on others if they do the opposite due to insecurities.
If you ain’t hurting anyone in life, do whatever the fuck you want.
I agree I’m Vegan a bit pickier and I’m used to people looking at me weird or having weird conversations. Just like you I’m not preaching to no one about it, but if you ask me why I’m going to tell you. It’s all about the benefits to me and if others online hadn’t broke down the science and facts for me in forums across the net and across youtube, I wouldn’t have found this awesome thing that has made my life so much better. If I didn’t understand what it was about my old eating habits that were hurting me I wouldn’t have had much reason to change, knowledge is power.
MGTOW I feel is more about knowledge it’s the least narrative driven movement right now because it’s simple logic the stories come to their own conclusion whether you get taken advantage of or not you are vulnerable attaching yourself to or even pursuing a woman. It’s such a radical shift from what society wants you to know so you kind of have to shout it from on high.
St. Valentine’s huh. Who is he anyways…
St. Patrick’s is just around the corner…
A little bit of blue pill humor.
You want to learn about Adobe premire? here you go. 
Warning: Language, so kinda NSFW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIMwx56aJEo&feature=youtu.be
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Yea but thats staged or he would have another clip at the bottom about how to wrap a body in cling film and seal it into the wall.
LET’S GET READY TO STUMBLE!!!
Of course it is. I can’t imagine that any guy would actually film what would be one of the worst times of any man’s life and stick it online.
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