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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/609/Sarangha">Sarangha</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>FYI Null from portable ops is gray fox<br><br><br>There is much to explore. <br></div>
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Portable Ops isn’t canon. The story of PW and existing lore don’t line up with PO.<br></div>
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Sorry homie but portable ops was officially stated is cannon by kojima himself many times. All the events in PW are a direct effect of PO. Apparently some MG fans have said Nulls storyline conflicts with some of Gray fox’s origin. This is something Kojima will have to publicly address himself. <br><br>I don’t blame you since I come across this belief almost every time I mention PO. If you ever get a chance play PO when you can it’s a good game. <br></div>
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Kojima Productions podcast says it’s cannon. <br><br>http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/radio/the_report/the_report_122.mp3<br><br>They say it’s cannon but is considered as cannon on the level of MGR. Not part of the official timeline but is 100% cannon. <br><br>Edit: Also there are PO stills in MGS4 cutscenes. <br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/609/Sarangha">Sarangha</a> wrote: <a href="/discussion/comment/8002353#Comment_8002353" class=“QuoteLink”><span class=“ArrowLink”>»</span></a></div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>You can instigate Irvings (Moo cow bipedal creatures) into dizzy by running around or having your back to them from afar. They will charge at you and when you block OR parry their tackle it will go into a triangle button prompt to mash. Once that is done they will be dizzy and you can go for a QTE finish. I’ve practiced it enough to purposely instigate this whole scenerio, its much quicker and should help you get golds easily. The same tactic can be used for Water Striders, having your back turned from full screen distance and you parry (don’t think block is acceptable for this enemy) their tackle. This will get you a button prompt for an automatic finish.<br /><br>
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Right now I’m trying to beat VR mission 17 and if you parry mastiffs drop kick or of the wall dive it goes into a dizzy right away. Which is weird since I know that if you parry the drop kick in campaign this doesn’t happen. You’d have to parry the attack multiple times because they have a ton of armor.</div>
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I think that’s the one on Revengeance difficulty right? You die in one or two hits? In Revengeance, your parry counter is SUPER powerful. It one shots alot of enemies.
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/2848/Gasaraki">Gasaraki</a> said:</div>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>You can instigate Irvings (Moo cow bipedal creatures) into dizzy by running around or having your back to them from afar. They will charge at you and when you block OR parry their tackle it will go into a triangle button prompt to mash. Once that is done they will be dizzy and you can go for a QTE finish. I’ve practiced it enough to purposely instigate this whole scenerio, its much quicker and should help you get golds easily. The same tactic can be used for Water Striders, having your back turned from full screen distance and you parry (don’t think block is acceptable for this enemy) their tackle. This will get you a button prompt for an automatic finish.<br /><br>
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Right now I’m trying to beat VR mission 17 and if you parry mastiffs drop kick or of the wall dive it goes into a dizzy right away. Which is weird since I know that if you parry the drop kick in campaign this doesn’t happen. You’d have to parry the attack multiple times because they have a ton of armor.</div>
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I think that’s the one on Revengeance difficulty right? You die in one or two hits? In Revengeance, your parry counter is SUPER powerful. It one shots alot of enemies.
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Oh wow thanks for the heads up. An interesting premise to make the parry more effective, I can see what AlphaZero was saying with the similarities with the NG counter. <br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/609/Sarangha">Sarangha</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>FYI Null from portable ops is gray fox<br><br><br>There is much to explore. <br></div>
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Portable Ops isn’t canon. The story of PW and existing lore don’t line up with PO.<br></div>
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Sorry homie but portable ops was officially stated is cannon by kojima himself many times. All the events in PW are a direct effect of PO. Apparently some MG fans have said Nulls storyline conflicts with some of Gray fox’s origin. This is something Kojima will have to publicly address himself. <br><br>I don’t blame you since I come across this belief almost every time I mention PO. If you ever get a chance play PO when you can it’s a good game. <br></div>
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I need a date on that podcast. <br><br>Miller wasn’t even at San whatever, yet he makes a direct reference to it. <br>Gene supposedly gives Big Boss funds at the end, yet PW begins with BB broke as fuck. Hene gave him nothing or it didn’t happen.<br><br>PW has a lot of stuff in it that says “we’re ignoring PO”<br>
A little detail about executions some people may not have realized, even when you dizzy an opponent, sometimes you can’t execute them right? That’s because you need to have a full fuel gauge to do an execution.
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/609/Sarangha">Sarangha</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>FYI Null from portable ops is gray fox<br><br><br>There is much to explore. <br></div>
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Portable Ops isn’t canon. The story of PW and existing lore don’t line up with PO.<br></div>
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Sorry homie but portable ops was officially stated is cannon by kojima himself many times. All the events in PW are a direct effect of PO. Apparently some MG fans have said Nulls storyline conflicts with some of Gray fox’s origin. This is something Kojima will have to publicly address himself. <br><br>I don’t blame you since I come across this belief almost every time I mention PO. If you ever get a chance play PO when you can it’s a good game. <br></div>
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I need a date on that podcast. <br><br>Miller wasn’t even at San whatever, yet he makes a direct reference to it. <br>Gene supposedly gives Big Boss funds at the end, yet PW begins with BB broke as fuck.<br><br>PW has a lot of stuff in it that says “we’re ignoring PO”<br></div>
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They also have a lot of references to PO, KP just messed up with some of the story details with null specifically. It doesn’t take the fact that Kojima states it as cannon and so does the official KP podcast. Not to mention the tons of references to it in PW and the stills existing in MGS4 cinematics.<br><br>http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/2010/07/000221.html<br><br>Official blog entry to the podcast and the date should be there. Honestly MG isn’t the first franchise in history to have inaccuracies in canonical material. Star Wars is full of it but it doesn’t change the fact that it is cannon. <br>
They also have a lot of references to PO, KP just messed up with some of the story details with null specifically. It doesn’t take the fact that Kojima states it as cannon and so does the official KP podcast. Not to mention the tons of references to it in PW and the stills existing in MGS4 cinematics.<br><br>http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/2010/07/000221.html<br><br>Official blog entry to the podcast and the date should be there. Honestly MG isn’t the first franchise in history to have inaccuracies in canonical material. Star Wars is full of it but it doesn’t change the fact that it is cannon. <br></div>
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It doesn’t matter if it was in MGS4 because they’ve since ignored it. There’s nothing in PW that supports PO other than dates and events that were established in MG time line already. There’s 0 mention of the MGs from PO, no mention of the PO-specific people. The game can be ignored because the MG timeline ignores EVERYTHING about it. It contains 0 significant events.<br><br>In PO, Ocelot shoots the DCI and Ocelot says something about finally meeting in person since this is who he spoke with in MGS3. According to PW, Coldman WAS THAT DCI during MGS3. If he was killed in PO, why is he ALIVE in PW?<br><br>Because everything in PO is ignored.<br><br>PW contradicts a lot of PO, not small things, important events critical to the MG story.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/46709/ThatJollyOlBastid">ThatJollyOlBastid</a> said:</div>
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Then why can’t you execute dizzied enemies sometimes? It might be that you need the meter to be at least blue, but I know there are situations you can’t execute when you should be able to, even on weak cyborgs
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/46709/ThatJollyOlBastid">ThatJollyOlBastid</a> said:</div>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/2770/Spirit%20Juice">Spirit Juice</a> wrote: <a href="/discussion/comment/8002334#Comment_8002334" class=“QuoteLink”><span class=“ArrowLink”>»</span></a></div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Speaking of the Kung Fu Dwarf Gekkos, I asked earlier in the thread but no one seemed to know the answer. There’s one just before you fight Sundowner… but I have no idea how to get to it. Does anyone know?</div>
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I tried shooting him with a rocket launcher but nothing happened
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According to the strategy guide you have to shoot him with 2 rockets. This is on normal difficulty, so it’ll probably take more on higher difficulty settings.<div><br></div><div>And regarding executions, Gasaraki is correct. Your meter needs to be atleast blue to be able to perform the execution. I noticed the same thing.</div>
My friend just fired this. He hasn’t seen any trailers for the game aside from the ones back when the games was still called Metal Gear Solid Rising. <br><br>I hope he brought a change of underwear. <br><br><br>
Ah, ok then.<div><br></div><div>But sometimes, if you stunned them and you see the execution promo (Y+B/Triangle+Circle) if you go to blade mode and go out regardless of the amount of meter you have you can’t execute them :(</div>
the more i play this game the more i fall in love with playing it.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>why would losing a (cyborg) arm and an eye make raiden so wrecked and require a new body?</div>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/46709/ThatJollyOlBastid">ThatJollyOlBastid</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Ah, ok then.<div><br></div><div>But sometimes, if you stunned them and you see the execution promo (Y+B/Triangle+Circle) if you go to blade mode and go out regardless of the amount of meter you have you can’t execute them :(</div></div>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/20554/NickRocks">NickRocks</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>the more i play this game the more i fall in love with playing it.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>why would losing a (cyborg) arm and an eye make raiden so wrecked and require a new body?</div></div>
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It was just an out of date body in the first place, also his eye was still human IIRC
They also have a lot of references to PO, KP just messed up with some of the story details with null specifically. It doesn’t take the fact that Kojima states it as cannon and so does the official KP podcast. Not to mention the tons of references to it in PW and the stills existing in MGS4 cinematics.<br><br>http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/2010/07/000221.html<br><br>Official blog entry to the podcast and the date should be there. Honestly MG isn’t the first franchise in history to have inaccuracies in canonical material. Star Wars is full of it but it doesn’t change the fact that it is cannon. <br></div>
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It doesn’t matter if it was in MGS4 because they’ve since ignored it. There’s nothing in PW that supports PO other than dates and events that were established in MG time line already. There’s 0 mention of the MGs from PO, no mention of the PO-specific people. The game can be ignored because the MG timeline ignores EVERYTHING about it. It contains 0 significant events.<br><br>In PO, Ocelot shoots the DCI and Ocelot says something about finally meeting in person since this is who he spoke with in MGS3. According to PW, Coldman WAS THAT DCI during MGS3. If he was killed in PO, why is he ALIVE in PW?<br><br>Because everything in PO is ignored.<br><br>PW contradicts a lot of PO, not small things, important events critical to the MG story.<br></div>
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Sorry man it’s cannon until <i>Kojima himself</i> and or the KP podcast officially comes out with a statement otherwise that is how people will view it. Note that the KP podcast is months after Peace Walkers release. <br><br>Kojima didn’t direct it which is why we see some of the inconsistencies in the story line. The problem IS peace walker references Portable Ops. If PO isn’t cannon then they shouldn’t have made the reference but I do agree with the inconsistencies. <br><br>MG is a very inconstant story in general and there are a TONS of inconsistencies throughout the entire timeline.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/20554/NickRocks">NickRocks</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>the more i play this game the more i fall in love with playing it.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>why would losing a (cyborg) arm and an eye make raiden so wrecked and require a new body?</div></div>
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Listen to the codecs. The prologue body was standard cyborg parts, which they budgeted for the bodyguard mission. After Desperdo struck, they had to go state of the art, outfit Raiden with the best equipment. That body is Maverick equipment.<br>
They also have a lot of references to PO, KP just messed up with some of the story details with null specifically. It doesn’t take the fact that Kojima states it as cannon and so does the official KP podcast. Not to mention the tons of references to it in PW and the stills existing in MGS4 cinematics.<br><br>http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/2010/07/000221.html<br><br>Official blog entry to the podcast and the date should be there. Honestly MG isn’t the first franchise in history to have inaccuracies in canonical material. Star Wars is full of it but it doesn’t change the fact that it is cannon. <br></div>
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It doesn’t matter if it was in MGS4 because they’ve since ignored it. There’s nothing in PW that supports PO other than dates and events that were established in MG time line already. There’s 0 mention of the MGs from PO, no mention of the PO-specific people. The game can be ignored because the MG timeline ignores EVERYTHING about it. It contains 0 significant events.<br><br>In PO, Ocelot shoots the DCI and Ocelot says something about finally meeting in person since this is who he spoke with in MGS3. According to PW, Coldman WAS THAT DCI during MGS3. If he was killed in PO, why is he ALIVE in PW?<br><br>Because everything in PO is ignored.<br><br>PW contradicts a lot of PO, not small things, important events critical to the MG story.<br></div>
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Sorry man it’s cannon until <i>Kojima himself</i> and or the KP podcast officially comes out with a statement otherwise that is how people will view it. Note that the KP podcast is months after Peace Walkers release. <br><br>Kojima didn’t direct it which is why we see some of the inconsistencies in the story line. The problem IS peace walker references Portable Ops. If PO isn’t cannon then they shouldn’t have made the reference but I do agree with the inconsistencies. <br><br>MG is a very inconstant story in general and there are a TONS of inconsistencies throughout the entire timeline.<br></div>
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Not really, the game speaks for itself. Both games have the subplot of BB getting over The Boss’s death, if he got over it in PO why is he doing it in PW again?<br><br>You can say what you will about the voice of God needing to say it plainly but PW already says it.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/46709/ThatJollyOlBastid">ThatJollyOlBastid</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Damn, in 2018 standard robo tech would let me able to throw around Ray?</div>
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Civilian cyborg parts aren’t the same as military and PMC.<br><br>Again, codec convos.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/46709/ThatJollyOlBastid">ThatJollyOlBastid</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Damn, in 2018 standard robo tech would let me able to throw around Ray?</div>
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well it was state of the art military grade in 2014, it’s just “standard” for high end military in 2018 I guess lol