brocken is nazi inspector gadget you dummies
I didn’t know Brocken was so popular lol.
I agree with this also…and some people cant mulitask it seems. Ben-Ra is misunderstanding and dumbing down people tremendously…
Hes saying people cant play 2-6 games while people do this ANYWAYS at tournaments… (The people that play ST some play 3s and Alpha…and some CVS2 and Marvel, Tekken, Guilty Gear etc)
Fact.
Also what about the people that can do this and be good at it? I can play Any SNK game and you better watch out for me in each one…
I know people like me are not way too many**…but they exist…** I also agree people should learn a set of games at the same time also…
fuck that just play everything and have fun
How long have you been playing every snk game? How long has the community as a whole been playing st?3s?a3? I would rather take and build good comp in 1 game than shitty watered down comp in 4-6 games
um i can play about 5-6 games … on different platforms… so that isn’t a problem for me ( from arcana to gg, from ST to tekken) and i do decent in most of them…the only problem with me is i don’t have any comp really for the games if any… but that dosen’t mean i can’t do it
im sure most snk cats can do it… i mean some the same mechanics from other games can apply to other games… just gotta know the new engine and deisgn of the game…
but i still say like 3-4 at best would work… just gotta pick and choose…
Nas:
While veteran SNK players probably can, it’s easier to rally NEW gamers behind 1 GOOD game as opposed to several mundane ones.
haha i gotcha my man… hence why im learning some NGBC right now… im taking one step at a time ( cuse i don’t think Mira is going to cut it)
Understandable but he cant say everyone can only play one game at a time…
I hear yah I’m the same way…I can play like 50 games at once at least…no problem…
I enjoy multitasking.
Boo to Josh for changing back my title edit. Haha. I should have said stop being scrubs.
on the Akari in LB2 infinite, because it is so easy to do and can be used to stall matches would be the reason I’d say it is banned.
LOL…
:lol:
Hey you can still say stop being WUSSES AND SCRUBS!!!
In LB2 I’m gonna hit you with Akaris infinite…its like Tung’s Muscleman in NGBC…its only a matter of time…
nuuuuu
haha well if you ever want to play and you’re in lubbock I’ll be here.
I’ll be headed there soon dont worry…I’l be at Ryans when I head out…I’ll crash at the Koko Inn.
Forcing people to conform to that is too much of a risk, especially without stronger player base. Build the player base, THEN find out from word of mouth if people want other small things.
Here’s what I’m not getting…
If someone wants to learn 98, why would it matter to him if tournaments run XI/NGBC/RB2/WHP alongside it? As long as you can guarantee that 98 will be run, I don’t see the problem.
Also, you have to remember, SNK players are not one unified community anyway. Because of Dark Geese’s de facto leadership role, it’s easy to get this impression, but it’s far from true. The vast majority, from what I’ve seen, concentrate on a couple games seriously, and you won’t find many of them who play the exact same ones.
I honestly believe that consistently running 5-6 games can eventually create a high quality of play, but it will require each game to develop its own individual community of strong players. Keits and I have been promoting & teaching WHP, even posting hundreds of matches, independent of everyone else. Ghostpilot/Mr.Big is doing the same for RB2, and has even started recording matches with audio commentary. SS5 Special has its own forum, though its good players are extremely spread out across North America & Europe.
My point is, if somebody steps up to do this for EVERY game in question, we can move well beyond the “glorified casuals” phase.
-Josh
Also, I will bring up the one case that has led me to believe this is possible: The Naruto series on the Gamecube.
A player in Florida who goes by “TheWiLL” began running local tournaments for the 3rd game in this series, and created an entire forum for it on his Willvolution website. With the release of the 4th game, he decided to record every single tournament match and post them on a new site called “YouTube”, and this drew the interest of a number of people. A group in the Cincinnati area had been running tournaments for this series even longer than Will had, and the new exposure further intensified their efforts. Entirely new players appeared from all over - Cali, Texas, and various spots in the Midwest.
With this, the forums received a great deal more traffic, and it became the place to go to learn the game. The quality of play steadily increased, rivalries began to develop, and Will wanted to gather all of these players for a national tournament of sorts. The result was his Willvolution event in Florida.
For the past two years, this tournament has brought all of these various communities together. People fly to Florida just to play Naruto on the Gamecube. And Naruto 4 drew numbers AND legitimate high-level play for more than two years - the community is now shifting to EX2 on the Wii since that is actually fun and somewhat balanced, unlike the first one, so it looks like things will continue.
What relevance does this have, you ask?
Naruto 4 cost a decent amount of money. It didn’t have online play. It had one character who destroyed 90% of the cast with no thought or effort whatsoever, a couple others who were almost as broken, and a large low tier almost as hopeless as Marvel’s. In spite of all this, it enjoyed the success outlined above.
If that’s possible, then I believe the same can happen for multiple well-balanced, deep, emulated, online-playable Neo games! The one element we are missing is consistent offline tournaments, and I just may do something about that…
-Josh
If it’s not obvious that an individual will get better trying to learn 1-2 games at a time rather than 5+ at a time, I don’t really know what else can be said. By promoting too many games, the overall skill level of players in each game will go down, and the number of players in each game will go down. Those are both anathema to a competitive scene.
You still don’t have an answer for “what’s the one game I should try and get good at, that will have comp?” The people who ask that are the ones who know they don’t have time to get good at 6 games, because they understand what I’m saying is true. Saying “just play everything and have fun” is the opposite of what a competitive scene is about. Certainly we’re all in this to have fun, but no serious tournament player has ever arisen by playing every game he can get his hands on. They get there by picking a game and pushing his skill to the limit, practicing and playing others who are also dedicated to getting better at a particular game.
Yes, there are players who play multiple games at high levels. But they didn’t tackle them all at once, and it didn’t happen overnight. Immersing oneself in a game is how skill is improved, and many players doing that is how a serious competitive scene develops.
Perhaps I’ve misunderstood the purpose of all this snk talk. If it’s just to create a community that likes to get together and play all snk games at a casual, shallow level, that’s fine. Just don’t present it as a serious competitive scene.
In some ways, the fact that people can’t even agree on what games to play says to me that maybe none of them are good enough to support a community. Put another way, many of these games have been around for a long time. Why is it no serious community has developed before now?