How the input for wake up KKK Flip Kara Throw works?
Just KKK Flip ~ stHK ~ LP+LK ?
kkk~lp
Oh, cool. Thanks.
i think this setup should only work on 4 frame safe jumps and that’s about it. only the first frame of the kkk flip can be canceled, the next frame after that isn’t invincible. with long active frames of fireballs or headbutts, i doubt it would work against those attacks. it might not even work on meaty attacks since they all have at least 2 active frames (unless they really do attack with the last active frame)
I’m wondering if safe-jumps setups for ≥ 4 framers do not whiff sometimes against Claw. He does wake-up a frame later in a lot of knockdowns (just as Sagat, for example). Because as those setup do hit at the very first frame of wake-up… so it would mean KKK flips became reversables (while they are know as not). Otherwise, it’s just a matter of whiff, and you would catch the jumper while he is recovering from his whiffed attack just as if he fake-jumped.
That would also explain your results, Niah, =)
What setup do you used, The Olympian, if I may ask ?
i forgot vega wakes up 1 frame later…screw him and his half frame wake ups
hmm, just test to work on 5 frame safe jumps as well
i recorded the setup with fraps, and played through it frame by frame. there’s something interesting going on here. if you to cancel the kkk flip to a special move, you won’t see kkk flip to come out. kkk flip also has a “slight” reversal timing, it’s not strictly a one frame thing. pushed kkk 4 frames before i fully woke up and it still worked. it’s almost like the reversal special timing got transfered towards the kkk flip and the invincibility went into the special move. the reason why the timing is so hard is because you have to do the special move ON THE FIRST FRAME of waking up. don’t know if making the kkk flip as a reversal would make this process easier…
this is all cool and all, but people will OS and it will hit, haha
fun fact: when you are being hit, you cause both characters to be in a hit animation for 13 frames 
Ok this kinda makes sense. This would explain why I cant seem to get it working on a cancel of a normal into kkk to kara throw… So this might be why it only seems to work on getting up from a knockdown.
Yes you may be able to counter this if you are predictable but with the application of the flip xxx focus noted above by Olympian it makes for a mean punish to the regular OS sweep punish. Now that I know it cant work with reversal im gonna go play around with reversal kkk flip xxx Focus tech (note: LP+LK+MP+MK+ Back) into back dash to expand my tech throw window on tick throws…
Keep the ideas coming guys…
@1:40: the more you know… loses sims kick normals though, or is that a get out of there free option?
Edit: also that Focus @ 4:42! So close!
make a video about kkk throw pls lol
No video… Try it in training or watch the makoto twitch channel.
kkk kara is too funny. I love using kkk karathrow this to blow up the obvious safejumps now, the rare times I get it to come out. Karafocus could also be useful, and karataunt is hilarious.
On an unrelated note, I find it irritating that the game engine allows you to plink with the select/back buttons. I feel like I should mod my stick so I can plink my c.lp combos, why should I knowingly ignore a powerful execution aid? I wish it just wasn’t possible, it’s stupid that you can do this when you couldn’t in the arcades (unless you actually could somehow and I’m mistaken). Almost seems underhanded to take advantage of.
Yes u can do it in the arcade cabinets. Using the start button. (there is only one).
It’s awkward due to the button placement.
I’ve seen it done in Japan (was an ibuki player)
Uenis vs GOGO BABY CHAN.
He could’ve chosen another pick though. =p
Jozhear vs Filipino champ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VrzbHQTtis
[details=Spoiler]I still fail to see how this is supposed to be an easy MU for claw. I don’t think Claw’s jHK/jHP would beat Dhalsim’s bHK or EX blast (which has invincibility). The only thing I see is his yoga sniper being punishable, that’s all, so he just has to avoid it. =)
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Screw that. The only thing that matters right now is that:
I AM MAGO SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN, NICE TO MEET YOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
In all seriouness though. Its likely that you will get a trade off that. But if you empty jump you can whiff punish it with crLP crMP xx EX FBA.
The thing is that FChamp played the MU perfectly while Jozhear made several mistakes.
he’s using b+mp, not b+hk
True. A bit too much throws/techs included. I wonder too why he didn’t went to izuna loop once he had FChamp cornered. Maybe EX blast would beat it ?
b+MP isn’t bad either. =p
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/razorback130/bstrong2ndactive.jpg
Jozhear was completely off, reactions and everything. While Filipino was completely awake.